Sweden the only country with Correct Approach to CVD-19

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I am concerned that there are cases of people getting infected more than once which means the effectiveness of the first vaccine will be questionable.

There may be a cycle of lockdowns (as we are seeing currently throughout Europe) and at some point a country will have to take the brave decision that Sweden made and decide that herd immunity might be better than complete social collapse.

There may be immunity more similar to immunity to common cold - a person previously exposed to common cold viruses usually gets mild symptoms. A person who managed to live their whole lives without any contact with common cold can die of it when exposed in adulthood (one of the problems with uncontacted tribes).
But it's not herd immunity, just like there is no herd immunity against common cold.
Covid is common-cold-like in many aspects - but as it's new, our immunity systems are not as familiar with it as they are with common cold, so severe cases are much more common.

There's no way the public is going to become 100% safe from this, the same as many other virus and diseases. It's going to continue to claim lives no matter what.

It would be wonderful if a vaccine was developed that virtually eliminated it the way the spread of polio was virtually eliminated. But most likely this will be like influenza, where even though there's a well developed vaccine, still millions contract it and tens of thousands are hospitalized for it and tens of thousands die from it.

Effective treatment for it seems more hopeful, considering a 74 year old obese man was barely effected by it due to an effective treatment.

Any news about the Brazilian doctor who died during the vaccine trials? still no confirmation on whether he was given a vaccine or placebo

A participant who died during a trial of AstraZeneca Plc’s Covid-19 vaccine in Brazil hadn’t received the company’s shot.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... cine-trial

Dr João Pedro R. Feitosa, age 28, has reportedly died from certain complications caused by Covid-19 on October 15.

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/2535 ... to-die.htm

Lol yeah except they still only have something like 5-7% of their population with antibodies and a death rate that’s far higher than neighbouring nations. How you see this as the “correct approach,” is beyond me. They still need like 15-18x more people to get COVID-19 to achieve herd immunity, which would likely translate to the same multiple of additional deaths.

Meanwhile, society is not collapsing in countries that have opted to slow the spread via lockdowns, masks, and social distancing until an effective vaccine is available.

What's wrong with face masks? Surely, requiring face masks is less disruptive to the economy than shutting down businesses?

I favor requiring: (1) face masks, (2) that stores require people to be at least 6 feet apart where possible, and (3) that all jobs that CAN be done remotely must be done remotely. These can all be done WITHOUT shutting down huge numbers of "non-essential" businesses. Furthermore, getting businesses in the habit of working remotely where possible will be generally beneficial in the long run, even after CoViD is no longer a problem.

Sweden's done well by some standards----but certainly not by Scandinavian standards.

They have about 125,000 infections out of a population of approximately 10 million. They've had almost 6,000 deaths.

Norway, right next to Sweden, has had less than 20,000 infections, and less than 300 deaths. They have half the population of Sweden.

Sweden has had 6 times the amount of COVID cases, and 20 times the amount of COVID deaths as compared to Norway.

Basically.....above the Arctic Circle....the incidence of COVID is very low. Extremely cold climates are not conducive to the COVID virus.

Iceland, at 64 degrees North Latitude, has had some cases----but their climate is not extremely cold; it's more similar to a place like Toronto than to a truly "Arctic" place.

Above 60 degrees North Latitude in Canada, there's very, very few cases of COVID.

Facemasks are beneficial for those working close to infected people or if you are infected. However, as there is no way to police this its therefore safer if you just mandate wearing of face masks for everyone.

Sweden's intention was on the right track but their methodology was flawed (that's how I saw it).

If you actually interpret what their chief epidemiologist is currently saying it revolves primarily around the ethics of trying to attain herd immunity rather than the intention. I feel they could have adjusted their policy to reduce the high death rate earlier using some common sense parameters.

However lockdowns might only delay the death rate as there is still no guarantee any vaccine available in 2021 will be able to maintain antibodies to COVID-19 for those already susceptible to the virus.

and speaking of vaccines

Everyone’s waiting for the first round of coronavirus vaccines, but the head of the UK’s vaccine task force has warned we might never have one, and if we do it might not work that well at first.
“The first generation of vaccines is likely to be imperfect, and we should be prepared that they might not prevent infection but rather reduce symptoms, and, even then, might not work for everyone or for long,” Kate Bingham wrote in medical journal The Lancet.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... e4fb28e7e1
Assuming we never get a viable vaccine then Sweden will at least be the first country to come out of the cycle of lockdown first as most of their population has probably been exposed to the vaccine by now.

So we're going to have to be in lockdown forever?

Let's hope the vaccine works (might need the pope to help with prayers).

Wuuuut?

Coronaviruses can survive sub zero temperatures for a couple years. It’s super hot Heat that kills them.

It’s not the low temperatures up North that results in very few cases.. it’s the fact that almost no one lives there! Something like 90%+ of Canada’s population lives within 100 miles of the US border.

Brazil gets “super hot heat”—yet there’s over 5 million cases, and about 150,000 deaths.

Arizona, the USA capital of triple-digit temperatures (Fahrenheit), went through a coronavirus crisis during July.