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26 May 2022, 5:01 am

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I'm waiting for the lunatic right to claim this was a "false flag" government operation.


You rang? 8)

But I don't see this as a republican or democrat thing.
I see it more in terms of it being a "Deep State" thang. 8)


And the "Deep State" is a figment of the American right's fevered imagination.


Then it may be the "Deep Dark State". 8O

But seriously, having a power group, independent of governments, is a logical imperative.
People simply need to understand pseudoscience psychology in depth.


The Deep State was the invention Trump and his cult, giving a sinister name to government bureaucrats who did their job by opposing his illegal and nonsensical machinations.


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26 May 2022, 5:19 am

From Tulsi Gabbard's Twitter:

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Politicians rush to send $40 billion to Ukraine, yet we don’t have enough money to protect our children with simple life saving solutions, like single points of entry to schools, staff training, mental health services, threat hotlines, and more.

Source: https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1529761446221201408



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26 May 2022, 5:20 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm waiting for the lunatic right to claim this was a "false flag" government operation.


You rang? 8)

But I don't see this as a republican or democrat thing.
I see it more in terms of it being a "Deep State" thang. 8)


And the "Deep State" is a figment of the American right's fevered imagination.


Then it may be the "Deep Dark State". 8O

But seriously, having a power group, independent of governments, is a logical imperative.
People simply need to understand pseudoscience psychology in depth.


The Deep State was the invention Trump and his cult, giving a sinister name to government bureaucrats who did their job by opposing his illegal and nonsensical machinations.


But you do understand that a non-government aligned power group is a logical imperative, right?



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26 May 2022, 6:32 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm waiting for the lunatic right to claim this was a "false flag" government operation.
Not a very long wait, sadly -

False conspiracy theories flourish after Texas shooting in familiar pattern


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26 May 2022, 7:04 am

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Sadly, repeating what has been posted in one place on the site is strictly verbotten[1], with a requirement to use links to other posts having been imposed, so unfortunately you'll have to follow the link to read it rather than being able to read it here.

[1] In such case, you can cross-link your responses. Copy-paste is in really bad taste.
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"Cross posting is prohibited": viewtopic.php?t=263570

I'm sorry you feel it necessary to characterise this very basic rule as unfortunate.


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26 May 2022, 7:20 am

To the surprise of no-one, the usual ghouls shuffle into daylight with the predictable commentary:

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Within hours of Tuesday’s mass shooting, which took the lives of 19 Texas elementary school students and two teachers, prominent Republicans were out in full force with thoughts and prayers. “Heidi & I are fervently lifting up in prayer the children and families in the horrific shooting in Uvalde,” Senator Ted Cruz tweeted. “Texans are grieving for the victims of this senseless crime & for the community of Uvalde,” Texas governor Greg Abbott wrote. On Truth Social, Donald Trump offered thanks to “Law Enforcement Professionals, and condolences to all who are suffering so gravely with the loss of those incredible souls so close to you.” He added: “No words can express the sorrow and grief of this absolutely horrible event. It is a moment in time which will never be forgotten!” Obviously, all of these statements would mean significantly more if any of the three men had ever once used their power to do literally anything about the epidemic of gun violence in the U.S., a place where there are more guns than people and there have already been 213 mass shootings this year alone. Or if the trio claiming to give a s**t about the lives that were lost wasn‘t scheduled to appear at a National Rifle Association conference within 72 hours of 9-, 10-, and 11-year-olds being killed, thanks in part to the policies pushed by the NRA.

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The NRA, of course, is effectively a domestic terrorist organization that buys the votes of politicians, who subsequently do their bidding by blocking any and all attempts at gun control, which has led to the phrase “school shooting” being regularly uttered in this country. (On average, there has been a school shooting about every week in 2022.) In 2016, the group spent more than $30 million—and other estimates put it at as much as $70 million—to get Trump elected. Abbott owes a large portion of his career to the gun lobby. Cruz, who is apparently a cheap date, has received at least $176,000 in donations.

Not surprisingly, Cruz has made it his life’s work—when he’s not jetting off to Cancún amid state-wide emergencies—to make it easier for Americans to obtain guns, and during his bid for the presidency in 2016, outright bragged about blocking President Barack Obama’s attempt to advance gun control legislation in the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre that left 20 children and six adults dead. “There’s a reason when Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer came after our right to keep and bear arms, that I led the opposition,” Cruz said during a debate. “Along with millions of Americans, we defeated that gun control legislation. I would note that the other individuals on this stage were nowhere to be found in that fight.” For his part, Trump briefly pretended to be interested in doing something about guns following the Parkland shooting, before caving to the NRA and proposing that, instead, we arm teachers who could “solve the problem instantly” if “a savage sicko came to a school with bad intentions.”

More (including many functional "links off") here: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05 ... t-shooting


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26 May 2022, 7:28 am

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And just to show you that you can't keep a bad a$$hole down:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carls ... 08669.html
F*** Tucker Carlson!


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26 May 2022, 7:40 am

Basically the formula followed by all these deplorable republicans was designed by the architect of the MAGA movement and advisor to Trump, far right editor of Breitbart Steve Bannon

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/16/medi ... index.html
That's the Bannon business model: Flood the zone. Stink up the joint. As Jonathan Rauch once said, citing Bannon's infamous quote, "This is not about persuasion: This is about disorientation."



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26 May 2022, 7:41 am

Tuckums is undiluted, malicious poison - from that video (above):

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“Oh, so the lockdowns dramatically increase the incidence of mental illness among young people and in 10 days, we’ve seen two mass shootings by mentally ill young people. Could there be a connection?” he asked. “Now, that’s not finger-pointing. It’s not to blame [Dr. Anthony] Fauci for yesterday’s shooting. We’re not that low. We’re not Joe Biden. But if people are becoming mentally ill because they’re disconnected from others, what can we do to connect them to others and thereby reduce the incidence of mental illness? That’s a real conversation.”
Yeah, sure - "just asking questions".


Ted Cruz really is something special, isn't he -
Cruz wrote:
“One of the things that everyone agreed is don’t have all of these unlocked back doors. Have one door into and out of the school and have ... armed police officers at that door,” he told Fox News Wednesday.
https://news.yahoo.com/ted-cruz-flayed- ... 57940.html

One door for the entire school? 8O
What a genius...


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26 May 2022, 7:47 am

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One door for the entire school? 8O
My high school had about 300 students and one door was entirely sufficient for it.


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26 May 2022, 7:54 am

Where I live it's customary that all entrance doors to all schools are locked 24/7.
Admin and custodial staff have keys.
The doors are propped open for about 10 minutes in the morning, for teachers.
Teachers who are late buzz in on a camera and admin will open the door for them (by remote).

At entry time, teachers have duty supervision which includes going to the doors to hold them open.
Classes queue by teacher and are escorted in by a few teachers who are outside on supervision duties.
Then the doors lock again.

They are thick steel fire doors and they don't open again until recess or lunch, when the same process happens.

Classroom doors can be ajar, but teachers use their key to keep doorknobs in the "locked" position.
If a door is shut suddenly (e.g., during lockdown), it will automatically be locked.

Parents and community do not enter the school except for arranged meetings with teachers.
Meetings happen when students have left the building for the day.
For meetings, the teacher will meet them at the doors to escort them inside.

Many of the inner-city schools have metal detectors.

I don't know of any school shootings here, ever, except for the École in 1989.


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26 May 2022, 7:57 am

magz wrote:
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One door for the entire school? 8O
My high school had about 300 students and one door was entirely sufficient for it.
Hopefully there would never be a fire or something else requiring rapid evacuation!


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26 May 2022, 8:00 am

There are additional doors but they are not used in non-emergency situations


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26 May 2022, 8:02 am

Ah - not quite one door, then. :chin:


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26 May 2022, 8:04 am

One door in regular use.
The rest open only from inside and they are usualy under alarm in case of unauthorized use.


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26 May 2022, 8:40 am

Cornflake wrote:
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One door for the entire school? 8O
My high school had about 300 students and one door was entirely sufficient for it.
Hopefully there would never be a fire or something else requiring rapid evacuation!


Big stores have a single entrance/exit door. But they also have emergency exit only doors.