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17 Mar 2020, 7:34 am
17 Mar 2020, 7:38 am
ouinon2 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Very pleasing how the Chinese situation is mitigating. A good portent for the rest of the world.
Yes, if the rest of the world succeeds in copying what China did, which currently looks rather doubtful.
A stoic approach works well in situations where one has no ability to change the outcome.
17 Mar 2020, 7:40 am
Tim_Tex wrote:
The problem here is that Trump fired the pandemic task force in order to placate his base, who believe that the earth is 6,000 years old and was created in 6 literal days, and that sexual orientation is a choice.
PPR is that-a-way ---->
17 Mar 2020, 7:41 am
17 Mar 2020, 7:42 am
ouinon2 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Very pleasing how the Chinese situation is mitigating. A good portent for the rest of the world.
Yes, if the rest of the world succeeds in copying what China did, which currently looks rather doubtful.
No offince to China but its not known for being the forerunner in technology and innovation.
This is a place where they slaughter wild animals on the street for consumption, which is likely how this thing started in the first place.
It's either that or there was a massive screw up in a bio-lab located within a city with a population of 11 million.
Either way it comes out as archaic.
Basically in my opinion, if China can manage get it under control, then it is pretty controllable.
17 Mar 2020, 7:46 am
EzraS wrote:
ouinon2 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
ouinon2 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Yep those are the numbers I just looked at. Between now and this time yesterday, 7,708 people died in the United States.
The average "resting"/normal death rate in the USA is 9 - 10 in 1000.
Coronavirus looks like it might increase that by a factor of 100 this year.
Well it is off to a very slow start then. It's already reached its peak in China, the most populated country on earth, with nowhere close to those numbers.
That is because China took extreme rapid massive steps to test, track, screen, contain, control and treat it.
There was really genuinely widespread testing and tracing, and centralised quarantine measures, and industrial scale disinfection of all roads, buildings etc.
The disease did not peak naturally or spontaneously or because of seasonal factors. It was brought to a stop by concerted unprecedented effort on the part of China's administration and Chinese people.
Exponential series always get off to a slow start. It's what makes them so dangerous. They are gradual and then very sudden. Have you heard of the Chinese story about the man whose King offered him a reward for something and he asked for a grain of rice on the first square of a chessboard, and 2 on the next, and 4 on the third square, etc, doubling at every square? The king didn't hesitate to agree to the reward, but when it came to pay it he found that he didn't have enough rice in the kingdom to fulfill his promise!
In other words China has proven that the virus is very controllable.
I know what you are working with here. It's like the old addage that if you take a penny and keep doubling it daily, in a month you'll have a million dollars.
But if that's the way virusus spread, the world's population would be a lot smaller.
Look on the bright side.
Eventually, we will run out of old people and the death rate will be something/k like 0.0000000000001
Space under the bed is there for a reason for us oldies.
Use it, stay safe and let the apocalypse pass naturally.
17 Mar 2020, 7:47 am
17 Mar 2020, 7:48 am
17 Mar 2020, 7:49 am
17 Mar 2020, 7:49 am
Pepe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
ouinon2 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
ouinon2 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Yep those are the numbers I just looked at. Between now and this time yesterday, 7,708 people died in the United States.
The average "resting"/normal death rate in the USA is 9 - 10 in 1000.
Coronavirus looks like it might increase that by a factor of 100 this year.
Well it is off to a very slow start then. It's already reached its peak in China, the most populated country on earth, with nowhere close to those numbers.
That is because China took extreme rapid massive steps to test, track, screen, contain, control and treat it.
There was really genuinely widespread testing and tracing, and centralised quarantine measures, and industrial scale disinfection of all roads, buildings etc.
The disease did not peak naturally or spontaneously or because of seasonal factors. It was brought to a stop by concerted unprecedented effort on the part of China's administration and Chinese people.
Exponential series always get off to a slow start. It's what makes them so dangerous. They are gradual and then very sudden. Have you heard of the Chinese story about the man whose King offered him a reward for something and he asked for a grain of rice on the first square of a chessboard, and 2 on the next, and 4 on the third square, etc, doubling at every square? The king didn't hesitate to agree to the reward, but when it came to pay it he found that he didn't have enough rice in the kingdom to fulfill his promise!
In other words China has proven that the virus is very controllable.
I know what you are working with here. It's like the old addage that if you take a penny and keep doubling it daily, in a month you'll have a million dollars.
But if that's the way virusus spread, the world's population would be a lot smaller.
Look on the bright side.
Eventually, we will run out of old people and the death rate will be something/k like 0.0000000000001
Space under the bed is there for a reason for us oldies.
Use it, stay safe and let the apocalypse pass naturally.
Shame on you. You're going to burn in heck for making statements like that.
17 Mar 2020, 7:52 am
17 Mar 2020, 7:55 am
EzraS wrote:
ouinon2 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Very pleasing how the Chinese situation is mitigating. A good portent for the rest of the world.
Yes, if the rest of the world succeeds in copying what China did, which currently looks rather doubtful.
No offince to China but its not known for being the forerunner in technology and innovation.
This is a place where they slaughter wild animals on the street for consumption, which is likely how this thing started in the first place.
It's either that or there was a massive screw up in a bio-lab located within a city with a population of 11 million.
Either way it comes out as archaic.
Basically in my opinion, if China can manage get it under control, then it is pretty controllable.
Take into account that the Chinese are much more disciplined than the Westerners when it comes to obeying state orders.
17 Mar 2020, 7:56 am
magz wrote:
Stoic approach and acting responsible work well also when one has some ability to change the outcome.
The only power I have is personal power through preparation and precaution.
I have absolutely no influence over how my government/country handles the situation.
I also have no ability in influencing those who embrace hysteria.
"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference."
I am a very, very, VERY inteljent person.
Follow my lead and you won't go too far wrong.
17 Mar 2020, 7:59 am
17 Mar 2020, 8:00 am
17 Mar 2020, 8:02 am
kraftiekortie wrote:
We have to make sure people west of China don’t come back and reinfect them.
Why?
I am a firm believer in "payback".
