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17 Mar 2020, 10:15 am

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One of the steps I took in preparation for the coronavirus pandemic was to buy a very special air cleaner that incorporates far ultraviolet light (UV-C) to kill viruses including coronavirus free floating in the air. I have been using it for a couple weeks now and reported my observations two days ago.

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1. The unit is eliminating free floating particles from the air. I had asthma for most of my life and have a high sensitivity. I have observed the air is dramatically cleaner.
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4. The air coming out of the unit had a freshness and crispness to it. Sort of like the air you get in the middle of winter after a fresh snowfall. Not exactly the same but close.
5. So I have found that I was able to get a better nights sleep with the unit. It is reducing the free floating particles from the air. It made the air purer so I could breath better during the night. It makes it easier to breath.

I rolled this over in my mind wondering if I could quantify it. I thought many months ago I had done a sleep analysis using a fitbit and reported that out in a different thread. So it might be possible to quantify. So I began wearing my fitbit. This is what I observed:

Last night my I had 1 hour and 10 minutes of REM sleep and 1 hour and 31 minutes of Deep sleep. Those are really good numbers for a 71 year old-timer.

Then I noticed the fitbit added a new screen. It was titled "Estimated Oxygen Variation". The new graphic indicated "Blood oxygen saturation normally fluctuates, but high variations can be linked to breathing issues. Estimated oxygen variations approximates the changes in your blood oxygen saturation."

In looking over my graphics from last night, it was low during the entire night. This indicated that my blood oxygen saturations were good, that I did not experience any issues along the line of sleep apnea. So from my perspective it displayed the effect of the freshness and crispness of the air on producing a good nights sleep.

Sleep (especially REM and Deep sleep) is one of the ways our bodies repair themselves. It is an integral part of our immune system. IMHO peaking the performance of your immune system is another benefit to dealing with the threat of the coronavirus.

I wish I could afford one of those.
It’s on my list for the future.Thank you for reviewing it for us all.
I have wood heat so there are always particles in the air.I do regularly open doors and crack a window to sleep for fresh air.I can’t sleep in a stuffy room.


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17 Mar 2020, 10:21 am

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Right now I’m avoiding all children since they usually are chock full of viruses.

That's actually very reasonable of you.

What if all the grownups die from this and just the children are left...
Star Trek episode comes to mind.

I remember the episode, I took it for a satire for the 1960s US society.

In reality, it won't happen because of this:
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Unless you find anyone under 60 "a child" ;)


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17 Mar 2020, 10:25 am

Misslizard wrote:
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Right now I’m avoiding all children since they usually are chock full of viruses.

That's actually very reasonable of you.

What if all the grownups die from this and just the children are left...
Star Trek episode comes to mind.


Makes me think more of southpark than star trek



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17 Mar 2020, 10:39 am

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magz wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Right now I’m avoiding all children since they usually are chock full of viruses.

That's actually very reasonable of you.

What if all the grownups die from this and just the children are left...
Star Trek episode comes to mind.

I remember the episode, I took it for a satire for the 1960s US society.

In reality, it won't happen because of this:
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Unless you find anyone under 60 "a child" ;)

No,just those 30 and under. :wink: :P


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17 Mar 2020, 10:40 am

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboar ... 7b48e9ecf6

I'm not sure if this link was already provided, but I think it's the best source of data so far.


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17 Mar 2020, 10:45 am

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As the Wuhan coronavirus relentlessly engulfs the world, scientists are relentlessly looking for a way to treat the infection. A vaccine is more than a year away, but an antiviral drug called remdesivir is being evaluated in clinical trials by Gilead Science, the world's premier antiviral drug company.

Thanks for sharing!

You didn't say thanks when I posted it on Feb. 3, 2020. Today is March 17, 2020.https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=384318&p=8445608&hilit=+remdesivir#p8445608 It goes to show that I am way ahead of all of you. Same thing with how to raise autistic children. That's why you suffer. That's your choice. You live with the consequences of your choices.

Remdesivir has a lot of issues. It is still on trial.


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17 Mar 2020, 10:53 am

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As the Wuhan coronavirus relentlessly engulfs the world, scientists are relentlessly looking for a way to treat the infection. A vaccine is more than a year away, but an antiviral drug called remdesivir is being evaluated in clinical trials by Gilead Science, the world's premier antiviral drug company.

Thanks for sharing!

You didn't say thanks when I posted it on Feb. 3, 2020. Today is March 17, 2020.https://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=384318&p=8445608&hilit=+remdesivir#p8445608 It goes to show that I am way ahead of all of you. Same thing with how to raise autistic children. That's why you suffer. That's your choice. You live with the consequences of your choices.

Remdesivir has a lot of issues. It is still on trial.

What is your real problem?
Jimmy not only posted a link but also wrote a short, easy-to-comprehend extract of the content and that is what I thanked him for.
Are you envious for one "thank you"?


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17 Mar 2020, 10:56 am

It's not WHAT you deliver....it's HOW you deliver it....

By the way: Thanks, Sweet Isabella----excellent link!



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17 Mar 2020, 10:56 am

When will coronavirus peak in the US? Dire report shows why 'flattening the curve' matters

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As millions of Americans urged to limit their activities amid the coronavirus outbreak are wondering when life may return to normal, a scientific report released Monday offers a grim scenario of how many could end up dead if no actions are made to limit the spread of the virus.

U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams told "Fox & Friends" on Monday that, at this moment in time, the U.S. is "at a critical inflection point in this country" in regards to COVID-19 infections.

"People, we are where Italy was two weeks ago in terms of our numbers," Adams said. "And we have a choice to make as a nation. Do we want to go the direction of South Korea, and really be aggressive and lower our mortality rates or do we want to go the direction of Italy."

In three weeks, Italy went from some 76 confirmed cases of coronavirus to more than 27,000, including a death toll that has topped 2,150 as of Tuesday.

"When you look at the projections, there’s every chance that we could be Italy, but there’s every hope that we will be South Korea if people actually listen, people actually social distance, people do the basic public health measures that we’ve all been talking about as doctors all along, such as washing your hands, such as covering your cough, and cleaning your surfaces," Adams told "Fox & Friends."

Walter Ricciardi, a member of the World Health Organization and a consultant for the Italian health ministry, said last week that life could return to "normal" by the summer, comparing COVID-19 pandemic to the SARS outbreak in 2003 that ended in May or June.

“I have the impression that, if we are lucky and all work together, we should get through to the summer,” he said. That’s when we should be able to return to normal life.”

The U.S. has seen a steady rise in infections since the outbreak began, with at least 4,661 confirmed cases and 85 deaths as of Tuesday morning.

A report released on Monday by an epidemic modeling group at Imperial College London paints a stark picture on how the numbers of infected could grow in the U.S. and the U.K. if efforts are not made to slow the spread of the virus.

If no control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behavior are undertaken, authors noted that a peak in daily deaths could occur in about three months, somewhere around June 20 in the U.S. In an unmitigated epidemic, scientists predict around 2.2 million deaths in the U.S., which doesn't account for the effects of health systems being overwhelmed in regards to mortality.

Critical care bed capacity at hospitals would also be exceeded as early as the second week of April in an uncontrolled epidemic, with "an eventual peak in ICU or critical care bed demand that is over 30 times greater than the maximum supply in both countries."

"The epidemic is predicted to be broader in the U.S. than in GB (Great Britain) and to peak slightly later," the study's authors wrote, noting that the larger size of the U.S. will result in more "distinct localized epidemics" across states.

"The global impact of COVID-19 has been profound, and the public health threat it represents is the most serious seen in a respiratory virus since the 1918 H1N1 influenza pandemic," the report's authors noted.

the report, the group of 30 scientists noted that there were two fundamental strategies that were possible to combat the virus.

Mitigation, which would focus on slowing by not necessarily stopping the epidemic spread, would reduce peak health care demand while protecting those most at risk of severe disease from infection. The other strategy -- suppression -- aims to reverse epidemic growth, reducing case numbers to low levels and maintaining that situation "indefinitely."

Each policy has major challenges," the study's authors noted.

An optimal mitigation policy noted in the study that combines home isolation of suspect cases, home quarantine of those living in the same household as suspect cases, and social distancing of the elderly and others at most risk of severe disease may help to reduce peak health care demand by two-thirds and deaths by a half.


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17 Mar 2020, 10:57 am

I wonder how much of covid-19 not really being that much worse than the flu in general in China had to do with the state and obedient citizens, and it just simply not being that extremely deadly of a virus.



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17 Mar 2020, 10:58 am

And I thank Eikonabridge for the link, too.

But Eikonabridge has to stop with the arrogance. It turns people off. It makes people not want to work with him Especially when he claims "superiority."



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17 Mar 2020, 11:04 am

It was deadly enough in Hubei Province----trust me!

In the rest of China, though, the mortality was actually quite low----lower than almost all "Western" countries. I would say China, in general, handled this thing pretty well.



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17 Mar 2020, 11:14 am

Bravo5150 wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
magz wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Right now I’m avoiding all children since they usually are chock full of viruses.

That's actually very reasonable of you.

What if all the grownups die from this and just the children are left...
Star Trek episode comes to mind.


Makes me think more of southpark than star trek


Miri Star Trek: The Original Series: Season 1, Episode 8

Kirk and a landing party discover a replica Earth trapped in the year 1960 and inhabited only by children. After learning that a plague has wiped out all the adults, the crew fear that they will become the next victims of the disease.



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17 Mar 2020, 11:18 am

I liked that episode.



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17 Mar 2020, 11:21 am

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I wonder how much of covid-19 not really being that much worse than the flu in general in China had to do with the state and obedient citizens, and it just simply not being that extremely deadly of a virus.

It's not as much about its deadliness as it's it's about the infrastructure.
The topic has already been here I believe. The Chinese built a large hospital in Wuhan in 6 days to treat the people who needed it. Still a lot died but many have been saved thank to this.
Would your county be able to do the same if the disease peaked there like it did in Hubei? Mine most likely wouldn't. But I can stay at home and manage my family on functional level here to help prevent such a necessity.


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17 Mar 2020, 11:22 am

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I wonder how much of covid-19 not really being that much worse than the flu in general in China had to do with the state and obedient citizens, and it just simply not being that extremely deadly of a virus.

In houston they have closed all bars and only restaurants that can remain open are the ones with drive thoughts now there is an ordance in the city limiting gatherings to 10 people everyone says it is bad flu but actions speak louder then words they would never hurt businesses like like that over a flu.


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