16 Dec 2016, 7:01 pm
16 Dec 2016, 7:11 pm
16 Dec 2016, 7:35 pm
16 Dec 2016, 8:08 pm
16 Dec 2016, 9:44 pm
EzraS wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The idea that Russia is behind Podesta stupidly falling for a basic phishing scam and having a password as obvious "p@ssword" is laughable. They have no idea who could have accessed this information and it's likely multiple entities.
The Slot: There Is Reportedly Consensus Between the FBI and CIA That Russia Intervened to Help Trump
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Multiple news outlets now report that the FBI has officially backed CIA assessments that Russia intervened in the 2016 election with the goal of electing Donald Trump.
According to an account from the Washington Post, corroborated by NBC, CIA Director John Brennan sent out a message to agency employees explaining that the head of the FBI and the director of National Intelligence agree Russia was behind the interference.
“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” he wrote in the message, which was quoted by the Washington Post: “The three of us also agree that our organizations, along with others, need to focus on completing the thorough review of this issue that has been directed by President Obama and which is being led by the DNI.”
According to an account from the Washington Post, corroborated by NBC, CIA Director John Brennan sent out a message to agency employees explaining that the head of the FBI and the director of National Intelligence agree Russia was behind the interference.
“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” he wrote in the message, which was quoted by the Washington Post: “The three of us also agree that our organizations, along with others, need to focus on completing the thorough review of this issue that has been directed by President Obama and which is being led by the DNI.”
This basically says there isn't any evidence.
But hey, there's a mighty strong suspicion. I mean HUGE suspicion. And sometime after December 19th, er I mean before January 20th, they'll get to the bottom of this .
In the meantime have this firmly implanted in your brain: RUSSIA IS THE REASON WHY TRUMP WON.
And how would it benefit both the CIA and the FBI to lie about this?
I am not the one who needs to pull their head out.
16 Dec 2016, 9:47 pm
16 Dec 2016, 10:04 pm
16 Dec 2016, 10:35 pm
wilburforce wrote:
EzraS wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The idea that Russia is behind Podesta stupidly falling for a basic phishing scam and having a password as obvious "p@ssword" is laughable. They have no idea who could have accessed this information and it's likely multiple entities.
The Slot: There Is Reportedly Consensus Between the FBI and CIA That Russia Intervened to Help Trump
Quote:
Multiple news outlets now report that the FBI has officially backed CIA assessments that Russia intervened in the 2016 election with the goal of electing Donald Trump.
According to an account from the Washington Post, corroborated by NBC, CIA Director John Brennan sent out a message to agency employees explaining that the head of the FBI and the director of National Intelligence agree Russia was behind the interference.
“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” he wrote in the message, which was quoted by the Washington Post: “The three of us also agree that our organizations, along with others, need to focus on completing the thorough review of this issue that has been directed by President Obama and which is being led by the DNI.”
According to an account from the Washington Post, corroborated by NBC, CIA Director John Brennan sent out a message to agency employees explaining that the head of the FBI and the director of National Intelligence agree Russia was behind the interference.
“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” he wrote in the message, which was quoted by the Washington Post: “The three of us also agree that our organizations, along with others, need to focus on completing the thorough review of this issue that has been directed by President Obama and which is being led by the DNI.”
This basically says there isn't any evidence.
But hey, there's a mighty strong suspicion. I mean HUGE suspicion. And sometime after December 19th, er I mean before January 20th, they'll get to the bottom of this .
In the meantime have this firmly implanted in your brain: RUSSIA IS THE REASON WHY TRUMP WON.
And how would it benefit both the CIA and the FBI to lie about this?
I am not the one who needs to pull their head out.
I keep seeing why would NBC, FBI, CIA, Obama lie about this? as if that was supposed to be proof they have solid evidence. I'm not saying they're lying. I'm saying all they seem to have is suspicion. Or rather, they're basically the ones saying they only have suspicion. It really just seems pretty much like the FBI's suspicion of Hillary's emails. Which turned out to be basically nothing. After December 19th they'll probably say the same thing about this as they said about the Clinton email investigation.
16 Dec 2016, 11:02 pm
16 Dec 2016, 11:23 pm
17 Dec 2016, 12:18 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Name one President you can't find fault with. Despite all of Obama's faults, he will be remembered for specific accomplishments. Even your hero, Trump, is speaking kindly of the President these days.
I expect to find fault. I don't expect a republican president or candidate to give a s**t about what I want but about mine and other like-minded peoples votes. I have no illusions about "the best man for the job" and I've never been into hero worship. I'm a cynic and a pragmatist and everything is looked at through those two lenses when dealing with most people, especially politicians.
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I brought LBJ up as an example. Maybe the civil rights movement would have proceeded without him, but not nearly as quick or with such deliberateness. Even civil rights leaders who lived through those days say as much.
What to those civil rights leaders have to say about Vietnam? Oh, that's right; all of them and thier minions were safe over here evading service and/or protesting something or other. Quote:
No, I'm not boycotting you, Skippy. I'm parrying your thrusts and jabs.
You're the one that keeps crying foul every few weeks.
"He's cruel"
"He's a bully"
"He's a troll"
Quote:
As for your next post: why do you assume the worse and think Obama only fought for marriage equality for LGBT votes? Can't you consider the possibility that he honestly cared about a group of Americans who had been denied the right to marry who ever they love?
Read again what i said above about politicians.
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What if someone said you couldn't love that Nazi she-wolf, Mrs Raptor?
No one's gonna get between me and mein liebchen Gertrude.
Your buddy Meistersinger doesnt like her. He's the one that gave me the name McGee which makes a usable last name for Skippy.
- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor
Be nice, and I won't call you a bully or a troll.
I take both titles as compliments.
Quote:
I don't recall ever calling you cruel.
Cruel, mean, or whatever...
- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor
17 Dec 2016, 12:25 am
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Name one President you can't find fault with. Despite all of Obama's faults, he will be remembered for specific accomplishments. Even your hero, Trump, is speaking kindly of the President these days.
I expect to find fault. I don't expect a republican president or candidate to give a s**t about what I want but about mine and other like-minded peoples votes. I have no illusions about "the best man for the job" and I've never been into hero worship. I'm a cynic and a pragmatist and everything is looked at through those two lenses when dealing with most people, especially politicians.
Quote:
I brought LBJ up as an example. Maybe the civil rights movement would have proceeded without him, but not nearly as quick or with such deliberateness. Even civil rights leaders who lived through those days say as much.
What to those civil rights leaders have to say about Vietnam? Oh, that's right; all of them and thier minions were safe over here evading service and/or protesting something or other. Quote:
No, I'm not boycotting you, Skippy. I'm parrying your thrusts and jabs.
You're the one that keeps crying foul every few weeks.
"He's cruel"
"He's a bully"
"He's a troll"
Quote:
As for your next post: why do you assume the worse and think Obama only fought for marriage equality for LGBT votes? Can't you consider the possibility that he honestly cared about a group of Americans who had been denied the right to marry who ever they love?
Read again what i said above about politicians.
Quote:
What if someone said you couldn't love that Nazi she-wolf, Mrs Raptor?
No one's gonna get between me and mein liebchen Gertrude.
Your buddy Meistersinger doesnt like her. He's the one that gave me the name McGee which makes a usable last name for Skippy.
- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor
Be nice, and I won't call you a bully or a troll.
I take both titles as compliments.
Quote:
I don't recall ever calling you cruel.
Cruel, mean, or whatever...
- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor
Can you two not do this in every thread you participate in? It's childish and it's getting old. Just agree to disagree and stop antagonising each other, it's silly and pointless.
17 Dec 2016, 12:58 am
wilburforce wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Name one President you can't find fault with. Despite all of Obama's faults, he will be remembered for specific accomplishments. Even your hero, Trump, is speaking kindly of the President these days.
I expect to find fault. I don't expect a republican president or candidate to give a s**t about what I want but about mine and other like-minded peoples votes. I have no illusions about "the best man for the job" and I've never been into hero worship. I'm a cynic and a pragmatist and everything is looked at through those two lenses when dealing with most people, especially politicians.
Quote:
I brought LBJ up as an example. Maybe the civil rights movement would have proceeded without him, but not nearly as quick or with such deliberateness. Even civil rights leaders who lived through those days say as much.
What to those civil rights leaders have to say about Vietnam? Oh, that's right; all of them and thier minions were safe over here evading service and/or protesting something or other. Quote:
No, I'm not boycotting you, Skippy. I'm parrying your thrusts and jabs.
You're the one that keeps crying foul every few weeks.
"He's cruel"
"He's a bully"
"He's a troll"
Quote:
As for your next post: why do you assume the worse and think Obama only fought for marriage equality for LGBT votes? Can't you consider the possibility that he honestly cared about a group of Americans who had been denied the right to marry who ever they love?
Read again what i said above about politicians.
Quote:
What if someone said you couldn't love that Nazi she-wolf, Mrs Raptor?
No one's gonna get between me and mein liebchen Gertrude.
Your buddy Meistersinger doesnt like her. He's the one that gave me the name McGee which makes a usable last name for Skippy.
- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor
Be nice, and I won't call you a bully or a troll.
I take both titles as compliments.
Quote:
I don't recall ever calling you cruel.
Cruel, mean, or whatever...
- Skippy McGee, otherwise known as Raptor
Can you two not do this in every thread you participate in? It's childish and it's getting old. Just agree to disagree and stop antagonising each other, it's silly and pointless.
Perhaps you could just not read my threads, or would that be too difficult?
Me childish? Surely you jest!
17 Dec 2016, 1:17 am
17 Dec 2016, 1:51 am
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