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28 Aug 2017, 1:37 pm

Well I think you see nazis everywhere because you want to, because someone being a "Nazi" makes it easier to demonise them. When they don't act like the demons you want them to be you insist they would have acted like demons if left to their own devices despite having no evidence of that. Like everyone today you don't want to understand or question anything, just demonise anything you don't agree with. When both sides are doing that we end up in the ridiculous situation the world is in now.

If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.



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28 Aug 2017, 2:24 pm

Chichikov wrote:
Well I think you see nazis everywhere because you want to, because someone being a "Nazi" makes it easier to demonise them.


You think wrong. I am the one usually arguing against calling everyone that holds libertarian or conservative views a Nazi or fascist. I agree those terms are way overused. Nazi is, in my opinion, probably the most negative thing you can call anyone. To overuse, these accusations waters down both the true evil of Nazism and the possible bad the person wrongly accused of being a nazi did. Overuse makes people tune out or assume people accused of being a Nazi or fascist are innocents being smeared. So my accusation against the Charlottesville march which is the topic of this thread happened because I truly felt that is what this march was intended as. If I feel that way I going a going to use Nazi not some catch all term like white nationalist or even neo-Nazi.


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28 Aug 2017, 7:27 pm

A Battle for the Soul of the Nation?

Biden essay:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... le/538128/



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30 Aug 2017, 12:21 am

Chichikov wrote:
Well I think you see nazis everywhere because you want to, because someone being a "Nazi" makes it easier to demonise them. When they don't act like the demons you want them to be you insist they would have acted like demons if left to their own devices despite having no evidence of that. Like everyone today you don't want to understand or question anything, just demonise anything you don't agree with. When both sides are doing that we end up in the ridiculous situation the world is in now.

If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

You are hopeless. Did you even watch the damn videos?



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30 Aug 2017, 1:06 am

marshall wrote:
Chichikov wrote:
Well I think you see nazis everywhere because you want to, because someone being a "Nazi" makes it easier to demonise them. When they don't act like the demons you want them to be you insist they would have acted like demons if left to their own devices despite having no evidence of that. Like everyone today you don't want to understand or question anything, just demonise anything you don't agree with. When both sides are doing that we end up in the ridiculous situation the world is in now.

If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

You are hopeless. Did you even watch the damn videos?


I did my own unbiased research and came to my own unbiased conclusion.



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30 Aug 2017, 1:55 am

Chichikov wrote:
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Chichikov wrote:
Well I think you see nazis everywhere because you want to, because someone being a "Nazi" makes it easier to demonise them. When they don't act like the demons you want them to be you insist they would have acted like demons if left to their own devices despite having no evidence of that. Like everyone today you don't want to understand or question anything, just demonise anything you don't agree with. When both sides are doing that we end up in the ridiculous situation the world is in now.

If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

You are hopeless. Did you even watch the damn videos?


I did my own unbiased research and came to my own unbiased conclusion.

You mean your're the type that pretends white nationalists aren't racists, they just want a "pure white" homeland?



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30 Aug 2017, 2:37 am

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You mean your're the type that pretends white nationalists aren't racists, they just want a "pure white" homeland?

I'm the type that can't tell from a picture if someone is a racist, I credit myself as being more level headed than that, neither am I the type to mass judge people and use pejorative terms to try and demonise people's beliefs because they are different from mine. Maybe if you spent more time listening and less time being outraged at everything you'd enjoy life a little more.



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30 Aug 2017, 3:17 am

Chichikov wrote:
marshall wrote:
You mean your're the type that pretends white nationalists aren't racists, they just want a "pure white" homeland?

I'm the type that can't tell from a picture if someone is a racist, I credit myself as being more level headed than that, neither am I the type to mass judge people and use pejorative terms to try and demonise people's beliefs because they are different from mine. Maybe if you spent more time listening and less time being outraged at everything you'd enjoy life a little more.

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30 Aug 2017, 3:40 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Chichikov wrote:
marshall wrote:
You mean your're the type that pretends white nationalists aren't racists, they just want a "pure white" homeland?

I'm the type that can't tell from a picture if someone is a racist, I credit myself as being more level headed than that, neither am I the type to mass judge people and use pejorative terms to try and demonise people's beliefs because they are different from mine. Maybe if you spent more time listening and less time being outraged at everything you'd enjoy life a little more.

^^^
You are trying to bring solidity to pure wind.
You used a lot of words, but you didn't really say anything.

Really? You should read your own posts sometime.



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30 Aug 2017, 4:16 am

Chichikov wrote:
marshall wrote:
You mean your're the type that pretends white nationalists aren't racists, they just want a "pure white" homeland?

I'm the type that can't tell from a picture if someone is a racist, I credit myself as being more level headed than that, neither am I the type to mass judge people and use pejorative terms to try and demonise people's beliefs because they are different from mine. Maybe if you spent more time listening and less time being outraged at everything you'd enjoy life a little more.

If you want me to "listen" why not just tell us what you really believe, instead of being an over-defensive snowflake about it?



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30 Aug 2017, 4:20 am

marshall wrote:
Chichikov wrote:
marshall wrote:
You mean your're the type that pretends white nationalists aren't racists, they just want a "pure white" homeland?

I'm the type that can't tell from a picture if someone is a racist, I credit myself as being more level headed than that, neither am I the type to mass judge people and use pejorative terms to try and demonise people's beliefs because they are different from mine. Maybe if you spent more time listening and less time being outraged at everything you'd enjoy life a little more.

If you want me to "listen" why not just tell us what you really believe, instead of being an over-defensive snowflake about it?


Right-wingers don't believe anything anymore. They're essentially nihilists.


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30 Aug 2017, 4:48 am

marshall wrote:
Chichikov wrote:
marshall wrote:
You mean your're the type that pretends white nationalists aren't racists, they just want a "pure white" homeland?

I'm the type that can't tell from a picture if someone is a racist, I credit myself as being more level headed than that, neither am I the type to mass judge people and use pejorative terms to try and demonise people's beliefs because they are different from mine. Maybe if you spent more time listening and less time being outraged at everything you'd enjoy life a little more.

If you want me to "listen" why not just tell us what you really believe, instead of being an over-defensive snowflake about it?

I'm not arguing about what I believe so that's not relevant. I'm just calling people out on their bs.

As for being a snowflake, oh dear, are we down to full on trolling now? I guess it's all you have left.



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30 Aug 2017, 7:27 am

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I did some Google image searching of the protest and the only "Nazi" flag I saw was on a biased article on Huff Post where they had a picture of what seemed to be a stand of some sort. All other images showed mainly confederate flags and various banners. I'm not saying there were no Nazi flags there, but from what I saw if they were there they were in a minority and the conclusion I came to was that the majority were not Nazis. Of course you see a single Nazi flag and brand everyone there Nazis on that basis. More proof that nothing you say is reasonable or grounded in any actual fact.


There was only one idiot who flew the German swastika. But the many hundreds marching hand in hand with confederate flags also marched with members of the Vanguard movement who wore modified swastikas. The Vanguard think they are clever by being Neo-nazis but masking their symbols so as not to offend Americans who's grandparents were killed by the Nazis. The murderer James Field was a member of this group. The confederates and KKK who were also walking with their tiki torches have always shared the same philosophy of holocaust denial and violence against non-whites. All scum in my eyes.



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30 Aug 2017, 7:44 am

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All scum in my eyes.

Not Nazis though.