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30 Jan 2019, 12:42 pm

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Is this scene from a 1993 Seinfeld episode offensive?




Nah, it was hysterical! It's all in the way you approach the subject of racism. Seinfeld was very adept at navigating touchy subjects. However, it might not fly today because PC has just gone to absurd levels.




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30 Jan 2019, 12:43 pm

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Cher had a big hit, "Half-Breed," in 1973. The music had "American Indian" elements in it.

Then there's "Indian Lake" by the Cowsills in 1968.

"Indian Reservation," by Paul Revere and the Raiders, was a 1971 song that sought to expose the plight of the Native Americans (called "Indians" exclusively in 1971).

I can not see how the song “Indian Reservation” would be offensive it speaks of Cherokee Pride. But if it came out today somebody would object.

People would object to “Half-Breed” especially the video as cultural appropriation and stereotyping today.

If actually find the theme of the song very relevant to the high functioning autistic/aspie experience. We are belittled both for not being normal and not having “real autism”.

Sitting in the lotus position was commonly described as sitting “Indian Style”. I know because I very often did and still sit that way. I learned to do that in summer camp because they had “pow wows” where we sat that way. There was a section of the camp that had an “Indian Hut”. To get there you had to use the “Indian Trail”. There is no way that would be allowed today, it would be thought of as uber cultural appropriation. A lot of what is thought of as racist cultural appropration is a homage, but it is what it is.

Another phrase that was in common use then that is a pejorative is “Little Indian”. It referred to a hyperactive child.

As a person who is offended by NT’s who keep on insisting we use “person with autism” instead of “autistic” I am sympathatic to respecting the language those affected prefer. But I do believe judging language sans context is harmful.


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30 Jan 2019, 4:11 pm

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...It's interesting that this UM " Ten Little Indians " is the same one I remember :)! I thought it was the one I read in the Agatha Christie novel now titled " And Then There Were None ", it which it's a song of them dropping off, one by one. I guess there was an alternate version of that, as " Ten Little (N-word)s "?
Both were earlier titles for that Christie novel.


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04 Feb 2019, 7:27 pm

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04 Feb 2019, 7:28 pm

Worth watching in full, but just watch the first 60 seconds if you didn't grasp who the "Black Israelites" were:


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04 Feb 2019, 8:30 pm

I think Nathan is divisive but was used as a pawn by his people that day in DC


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05 Feb 2019, 10:57 pm

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05 Feb 2019, 11:16 pm

I want the full context, I've seen the full context, I just don't believe it's exonerating.



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07 Feb 2019, 11:43 pm

This lawsuit will be in the tens of millions, if not more.

Here Are the 50 Celebs, Reporters & Others the Covington Kids’ Lawyers Just Officially Targeted

In the wake of a short, out-of-context video put up on Twitter about a confrontation after the Jan. 18 March for Life, pretty much everyone in the establishment media and politics decided to condemn a group of minors from Covington Catholic High School.

And then the facts started coming in.

For the most part, users who criticized the teenagers started running to delete tweets and scale back their remarks, if not retract them completely. Some didn’t, and now they could end up in court.

According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, over 50 individuals who went after the Covington kids and didn’t retract their statements will potentially find themselves in court after lawyers for the most visible of the students “sent letters to media outlets, individual journalists, celebrities and Catholic organizations as the first step in possible libel and defamation lawsuits.”

The letter from lawyers representing high school junior Nick Sandmann were sent to individuals and organizations ranging “from presidential hopeful Elizabeth Warren to actress Alyssa Milano; individual journalists including Maggie Haberman, Ana Cabrera and David Brooks; national media outlets like the The New York Times, CNN, GQ and TMZ; and the dioceses of Covington and Lexington as well as the archdioceses of Louisville and Baltimore.”

“The legal counsel representing Nick and his family, Todd McMurtry and experienced libel and defamation lawyer L. Lin Wood of Atlanta, have said they will seek justice for the harm allegedly done to the teen,” the paper reported.

Others who will likely be included in the suit will be NBC’s Chuck Todd, Newsweek writer/full-time weirdo Kurt Eichenwald, Democratic Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar, MSNBC host Joy Reid and actor/newly minted socialist Jim Carrey.


https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/50-ce ... -targeted/


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08 Feb 2019, 1:29 am

there has to be a way for those 50 to be able to countersue. this is legal abuse on the part of that kid's right-wing legal allies.



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08 Feb 2019, 1:45 am

Here's a rough indication of the type of folks and their response to the who live in Covington https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2SHElPqkZc



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08 Feb 2019, 2:34 am

auntblabby wrote:
there has to be a way for those 50 to be able to countersue. this is legal abuse on the part of that kid's right-wing legal allies.

If people slandered and threatened you you’d sue them too.



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08 Feb 2019, 8:01 pm

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Also notice that none of them have said anything condemning the instigators of the whole thing; the Black Israelites.
The whole thing from the start speaks volumes...


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08 Feb 2019, 8:09 pm

The Black Israelites have no political power.



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08 Feb 2019, 8:12 pm

They don't.....but they are virulent racists.

I've had encounters with them.



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08 Feb 2019, 8:21 pm

According to the FBI the black israelite movement has never been involved and is highly unlikely to be involved in violence.

As I said before a handful of black israelites don't pose any physical threat, people should treat them like they do mentally ill homeless people or christian doomesdays holding placards condemning all passersby to eternal damnation (and give them a wide berth and let them rant).