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29 Sep 2019, 3:20 am

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Darmok isn't really contributing anything to this debate except a bunch of silly memes! I know he can do better.

Climate change shouldn't be divisive. And there's no reason a person can't begin their crusade while young. There are plenty examples in history. Joan of Arc comes to mind but there ate many others.


What exactly does she want? Or what exactly do you want? I keep hearing this and that is wrong with the environment and we have to do something. So what exactly is something? And I mean an exact plan. Not we need to reduce CO2 and carbon, but what is the exact plan for that? It's been 30 years now according to Greta, so surely a well conceived practical by the numbers plan has already been laid out by the scientists. So what is it?



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29 Sep 2019, 3:44 am

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Darmok isn't really contributing anything to this debate except a bunch of silly memes! I know he can do better.

Climate change shouldn't be divisive. And there's no reason a person can't begin their crusade while young. There are plenty examples in history. Joan of Arc comes to mind but there ate many others.


What exactly does she want? Or what exactly do you want? I keep hearing this and that is wrong with the environment and we have to do something. So what exactly is something? And I mean an exact plan. Not we need to reduce CO2 and carbon, but what is the exact plan for that? It's been 30 years now according to Greta, so surely a well conceived practical by the numbers plan has already been laid out by the scientists. So what is it?

Right, and when she says we need to do something, does that mean current efforts/spending are ineffective, and we should cut funding on those projects?


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29 Sep 2019, 3:57 am

Scientists already have workable plans but they need to be implemented by the useless ineffective denialist politicians such as your Trump who is just like a rich Titanic passenger saying *this ship can't sink".

All he is interested in doing is rolling back everything Obama did. Its like an obsession.

Some plans have am ready been made to reduce carbon emissions but only some countries adopted the recommendations. China is one of the big culprits more so than the US.

I think its good that youth should show maturity and leadership when they don't see any significant results.


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29 Sep 2019, 4:02 am

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Scientists already have workable plans but they need to be implemented by the useless ineffective denialist politicians such as your Trump who is just like a rich Titanic passenger saying *this ship can't sink".

All he is interested in doing is rolling back everything Obama did. Its like an obsession.

Some plans have am ready been made to reduce carbon emissions but only some countries adopted the recommendations. China is one of the big culprits more so than the US.

I think its good that youth should show maturity and leadership when they don't see any significant results.

Trump seems to be making the #1 step to fighting climate change.

He's limiting immigration.

So, now we need less cars, electronics, homes, power plants.


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29 Sep 2019, 4:47 am

Please don't bring immigration into the picture, not relevant. Those people still have to use such things even if they stay in Mexico or Guatemala.

This isn't about race or nation!


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29 Sep 2019, 5:08 am

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Please don't bring immigration into the picture, not relevant. Those people still have to use such things even if they stay in Mexico or Guatemala.

This isn't about race or nation!

Humans are the problem though.

Less humans = less electrical needs = less carbon output.
More humans = more electrical needs = more carbon output

You expect citizens to sacrifice, when immigration brings in millions of new polluters every year?


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29 Sep 2019, 5:24 am

Better birth control then, as the planet can't sustain so many people. The works will have to adopt the Chinese policy and people with more than x number of children be taxed accordingly. Tax incentives for those with 2 or less, or none at all.


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29 Sep 2019, 5:28 am

that might play into the elites who believe the population needs to be decimated.



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29 Sep 2019, 6:00 am

If everyone ate less meat it would also help. I'm not saying the whole world needs to be vegan or vegetarian but we must reduce our meat intake. We all need to play a part and not leave things to the politicians.

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29 Sep 2019, 8:44 am

envirozentinel wrote:
Scientists already have workable plans but they need to be implemented by the useless ineffective denialist politicians such as your Trump who is just like a rich Titanic passenger saying *this ship can't sink".

All he is interested in doing is rolling back everything Obama did. Its like an obsession.

Some plans have am ready been made to reduce carbon emissions but only some countries adopted the recommendations. China is one of the big culprits more so than the US.

I think its good that youth should show maturity and leadership when they don't see any significant results.


I am still in the dark as to what the plans are.



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EzraS wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
Scientists already have workable plans but they need to be implemented by the useless ineffective denialist politicians such as your Trump who is just like a rich Titanic passenger saying *this ship can't sink".

All he is interested in doing is rolling back everything Obama did. Its like an obsession.

Some plans have am ready been made to reduce carbon emissions but only some countries adopted the recommendations. China is one of the big culprits more so than the US.

I think its good that youth should show maturity and leadership when they don't see any significant results.


I am still in the dark as to what the plans are.


There are lots of different ways countries can lower their CO2 emissions.
Lots of plans you can also read about and decide what you support.
Greta's activism is to spur countries into making and implementing something, anything, to get it done.

And no, I don't want her to be the one to pick.



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01 Oct 2019, 2:15 am

Make America Greta Again :mrgreen:



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01 Oct 2019, 5:16 am

Apuleius wrote:
EzraS wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
Scientists already have workable plans but they need to be implemented by the useless ineffective denialist politicians such as your Trump who is just like a rich Titanic passenger saying *this ship can't sink".

All he is interested in doing is rolling back everything Obama did. Its like an obsession.

Some plans have am ready been made to reduce carbon emissions but only some countries adopted the recommendations. China is one of the big culprits more so than the US.

I think its good that youth should show maturity and leadership when they don't see any significant results.


I am still in the dark as to what the plans are.


There are lots of different ways countries can lower their CO2 emissions.
Lots of plans you can also read about and decide what you support.
Greta's activism is to spur countries into making and implementing something, anything, to get it done.

And no, I don't want her to be the one to pick.


That is still extremely vauge.



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01 Oct 2019, 10:09 am

Solution is simple
Enact Zero carbon emissions
one child policy
ban cows

Problem solved! planet saved



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01 Oct 2019, 10:16 am

It won't happen.

Most people believe that a child needs a brother and sister.

Most people like their meat.

Most people love to take vacations.



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01 Oct 2019, 11:34 am

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Solution is simple
Enact Zero carbon emissions
one child policy
ban cows

Problem solved! planet saved


And how is that to be implemented? How is it to be enforced? What are the specific procedures? Surely after the science being crystal clear for 30 years as Greta says, there is already a fully devised plain waiting to be put into action, what is it?

It is like I am asking you how to make a complected dish and your answer is to mix a bunch of stuff together, toss it into the oven and presto it's done. What's the recipe?