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04 Apr 2020, 2:26 pm

Let’s see what happens over the next month.



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04 Apr 2020, 2:30 pm

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Canada’s treatment of its native people seems to be something they want to sweep under the rug.
Guess they aren’t so perfect after all.
https://origins.osu.edu/article/canada- ... elebration
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ent-report


Canada doesn't have a spectacular record when it comes to viewing us as part of Canadian society. AFAIK Canada, Australia, the US and New Zealand all have pretty shameful pasts when it comes to treatment of indigenous peoples and that of them New Zealand has made the greatest strides towards reconciliation. I'm not sure how Canada, Australia and the US measure up relative to each other.


It seems to depend on your location in the US.I have heard a few people from western states make derogatory remarks about the native people.
In my state it’s considered an honor to have native blood and people are proud of it.


Something I've noticed over the years is that for whatever reason white nationalists in Canada or the US don't really make a big deal out of a person having some degree of indigenous ancestry if they're sympathetic to the WN cause, it's more a matter of they don't like the notion of us having a culture or a distinct identity. It appears to be a hostility driven by 'why won't you people assimilate more?'

The Cherokee tried and it sure didn’t help them.
Diversity is beautiful.


It couldn't possibly help them, because the goal is to make them cease to exist as a distinct people. It's like the story of the Arab, his camel and his tent. If I ever sound touchy about treaty obligations, this is why, the long term goal was to ignore the treaties and just get the benefits (the land claimed) without paying the cost.


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04 Apr 2020, 2:38 pm

Yep.....that’s exactly what happened.



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04 Apr 2020, 2:40 pm

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Let’s see what happens over the next month.


Indeed. My forecast: Its grim.


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04 Apr 2020, 2:40 pm

You were working in construction, Goldfish.

Wouldn’t you qualify for the $2,000 a month if you are not working?



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04 Apr 2020, 2:54 pm

Meanwhile apparently China has donated 1,000 ventilators to New York. And Oregon sent 140 as well...perhaps Oregon and China should focus solely on their own, instead of donating medical supplies to different places... :roll:


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04 Apr 2020, 3:05 pm

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Meanwhile apparently China has donated 1,000 ventilators to New York. And Oregon sent 140 as well...perhaps Oregon and China should focus solely on their own, instead of donating medical supplies to different places... :roll:


Agreed! :lol: Every man woman and child for themselves!!

Also, <3 your new avatar. :D


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04 Apr 2020, 3:11 pm

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What I have learned when it comes to the Never Trumpers and the Democrats is that no matter how he handled the situation it they would have complained.


Wow. It’s because he continues to bungle it at every step. How can you not see this? :? Almost 100% of the things he has said or done for this crisis have made things worse.

It’s a hoax. State governors should fend for themselves. “Guidelines,” say masks are voluntary but he won’t be wearing one.. even the fact that your country has “voluntary guidelines,” about how to mitigate this crisis is a joke. Every other country or region that’s had a better outcome has Orders from their leadership/health experts that are enforced via law enforcement & fines. There are FAR too many of the orange guy’s lies and miss-steps to list, but even you should be able to see the Net result of them: a skyrocketing infection rate and body count in the USA, in large part due to the failed leadership of your president trump. Hell, even the Boston Globe recently wrote an op-Ed about how he has blood on his hands for his handling of this pandemic.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.msnbc.c ... 1522245875



Unrelated: Canada has a poor track record of how it treats Indigenous people that’s coming to light more and more in recent times especially due to pipeline politics. Canada can and should do better. As more and more Canadians learn the truth, Indigenous people have more support in their fights against Canada. It’s a work in progress that’s still going to take a lot of time to make right.

It’s related to this thread since you seem to think your nation is perfect and treats it’s citizens sooo much better than America.Yeah.....your white citizens.


I'm pretty goldfish21 has been comfortable expressing criticisms of Canada's policies on these matters as well.


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04 Apr 2020, 3:16 pm

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Meanwhile apparently China has donated 1,000 ventilators to New York. And Oregon sent 140 as well...perhaps Oregon and China should focus solely on their own, instead of donating medical supplies to different places... :roll:


Agreed! :lol: Every man woman and child for themselves!!

Also, <3 your new avatar. :D


Seems appropriate considering the federal response to this situation.


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04 Apr 2020, 3:18 pm

expected since at least 2006, world WORKING TOGETHER for early detection, early response has helped before: https://www.ted.com/talks/larry_brillia ... anguage=en



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04 Apr 2020, 3:44 pm

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Meanwhile apparently China has donated 1,000 ventilators to New York. And Oregon sent 140 as well...perhaps Oregon and China should focus solely on their own, instead of donating medical supplies to different places... :roll:

Oregon is part of the US last I looked.And we sent loads of masks and ventilators to China when the virus hit them.Now we are short because of our generosity.

https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus ... reat-here/

So all this hating on the US for wanting to take care of our hospital workers but no one says one word about India deciding not to export medicine to other countries.
I don’t blame them one bit.They have a huge population to take care of.


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04 Apr 2020, 3:49 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
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Meanwhile apparently China has donated 1,000 ventilators to New York. And Oregon sent 140 as well...perhaps Oregon and China should focus solely on their own, instead of donating medical supplies to different places... :roll:


Agreed! :lol: Every man woman and child for themselves!!

Also, <3 your new avatar. :D


Seems appropriate considering the federal response to this situation.


Your vessel appears to be in distress, and your flag is oriented correctly to communicate the situation.
Good work sailor. :mrgreen:


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04 Apr 2020, 3:52 pm

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Much of the US is actually doing rather well in coronavirus virus containment.

If present trends continue, we won’t get near to the 100,000 to 200,000 deaths predicted by Fauci.

I wish we in NYC were receiving better news.


My thoughts are with everyone in NYC. Stay safe kraftiekortie!



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04 Apr 2020, 3:53 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Canada’s treatment of its native people seems to be something they want to sweep under the rug.
Guess they aren’t so perfect after all.
https://origins.osu.edu/article/canada- ... elebration
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ent-report


Canada doesn't have a spectacular record when it comes to viewing us as part of Canadian society. AFAIK Canada, Australia, the US and New Zealand all have pretty shameful pasts when it comes to treatment of indigenous peoples and that of them New Zealand has made the greatest strides towards reconciliation. I'm not sure how Canada, Australia and the US measure up relative to each other.


It seems to depend on your location in the US.I have heard a few people from western states make derogatory remarks about the native people.
In my state it’s considered an honor to have native blood and people are proud of it.


Something I've noticed over the years is that for whatever reason white nationalists in Canada or the US don't really make a big deal out of a person having some degree of indigenous ancestry if they're sympathetic to the WN cause, it's more a matter of they don't like the notion of us having a culture or a distinct identity. It appears to be a hostility driven by 'why won't you people assimilate more?'

The Cherokee tried and it sure didn’t help them.
Diversity is beautiful.


It couldn't possibly help them, because the goal is to make them cease to exist as a distinct people. It's like the story of the Arab, his camel and his tent. If I ever sound touchy about treaty obligations, this is why, the long term goal was to ignore the treaties and just get the benefits (the land claimed) without paying the cost.

The Cherokee sent their children to white schools,changed their names to white names,used white farming methods and they were still sent packing on the Trail of Tears.It goes right through my county and this was actually the first reservation before most moved on to Oklahoma.Many locals here descended from ones that successfully hid because they passed as white .Sequoyah developed the Cherokee alphabet not far from here.


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04 Apr 2020, 4:00 pm

Misslizard wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Canada’s treatment of its native people seems to be something they want to sweep under the rug.
Guess they aren’t so perfect after all.
https://origins.osu.edu/article/canada- ... elebration
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ent-report


Canada doesn't have a spectacular record when it comes to viewing us as part of Canadian society. AFAIK Canada, Australia, the US and New Zealand all have pretty shameful pasts when it comes to treatment of indigenous peoples and that of them New Zealand has made the greatest strides towards reconciliation. I'm not sure how Canada, Australia and the US measure up relative to each other.


It seems to depend on your location in the US.I have heard a few people from western states make derogatory remarks about the native people.
In my state it’s considered an honor to have native blood and people are proud of it.


Something I've noticed over the years is that for whatever reason white nationalists in Canada or the US don't really make a big deal out of a person having some degree of indigenous ancestry if they're sympathetic to the WN cause, it's more a matter of they don't like the notion of us having a culture or a distinct identity. It appears to be a hostility driven by 'why won't you people assimilate more?'

The Cherokee tried and it sure didn’t help them.
Diversity is beautiful.


It couldn't possibly help them, because the goal is to make them cease to exist as a distinct people. It's like the story of the Arab, his camel and his tent. If I ever sound touchy about treaty obligations, this is why, the long term goal was to ignore the treaties and just get the benefits (the land claimed) without paying the cost.

The Cherokee sent their children to white schools,changed their names to white names,used white farming methods and they were still sent packing on the Trail of Tears.It goes right through my county and this was actually the first reservation before most moved on to Oklahoma.Many locals here descended from ones that successfully hid because they passed as white .Sequoyah worked the Cherokee alphabet not far from here.

https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entr ... uoyah-566/


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04 Apr 2020, 4:01 pm

Thanks, Belko. :)