07 Jan 2021, 12:25 am
07 Jan 2021, 12:26 am
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
On the bright side, many Republicans are currently dropping Trump like a bad habit.
Trump is out of his tree.
I think a lot of Republicans are happy to have a good excuse to drop this fool.
XFilesGeek wrote:
Also, anyone with half a brain could see Trump was bad news. His supporters....even worse.
Partisanship. Really?
You did say a lot of Trump supporters are dropping him like a hot potato.
Talk about Trump making a politically bad move.
XFilesGeek wrote:
Any of the "centrists" and "moderates" who have tried to defend his nonsense, and repeat the mantra, "both sides are equally bad" should be feeling pretty embarrassed right now. Do you want fascism? Because this is how you get fascism.
So, now you are lashing out at people who want to be rational, reasonable and non-partisan?
"My way or the highway"?
I don't think so, Tim.
Your reasoning is erroneous.
Republicans are turning on Trump, and rightly so.
There is no "binary" here.
you're projecting your own emotionalism onto Xfiles, who just stating the rational obvious.
How so?
naturalplastic wrote:
You need to take some sedatives to calm you down.
I'm an Australian, not an American.
I have an emotional distance from American politics, which I have displayed for years, that Amerikans understandably don't.
naturalplastic wrote:
you're making all kinds of flaws in reasoning yourself.
"Evidence".
Show me where I am thinking illogically.
naturalplastic wrote:
Rational and reasonable does not necessarily equal nonpartisan.
It usually does.
But I will amend.
Rational, reasonable *and* objective.
naturalplastic wrote:
If you really were rational reasonable and nonpartisan you have seen Trump as grifting snake he is from the get go back in 2016.
If *you* were rational, you wouldn't be using emotive terminology.
naturalplastic wrote:
Notice that Xfiles put "moderate" into quotes. Because that not what the said folks really were anyway. They partisan supporters of Trump, or his dupes.
XFG was attacking anyone who had a non-partisan view, also.
I find this odd.
XFilesGeek wrote:
So she was not doing (what you actually ARE doing) which is "lashing out" at folks "who wanna be rational".
I am not lashing out at anyone.
I am being rational, reasonable, objective, and incorporating new information as it comes my way.
I.E. The usual.
Saying that Trump is a grifter is simply stating an objective fact.
Why do accuse Xfiles of lashing out at folks who are moderate and objective when she is not doing that all? And why do you react so emotionally by falsly accusing her? You obviously ARE being quite irrational.
The suggestion that there aren't anti-social elements on either side of the political divide, is self-evident nonsense.
Re-read what was said:
Quote:
Any of the "centrists" and "moderates" who have tried to defend his nonsense, and repeat the mantra, "both sides are equally bad" should be feeling pretty embarrassed right now.
naturalplastic wrote:
And its not that you are "removed" from the US. Its that you're ignorant of the issues and fail to see implications that americans see.
Yes, that is your *opinion*.
I see nothing to suggests you have the only valid perspective on current events.
You do realise *all* WP members are entitled to voice their opinion.
Some, in other threads, have suggested those outside America shouldn't be allowed to voice their thoughts regarding American politics.
Is this your view also?
BTW, it is interesting that you selectively avoid answering some of my questions.
For example, please explain where my argument is illogical.
You can't cancel someone's argument by saying something without a counter-argument.
If you have none, you shouldn't have made the comment in the first place.
07 Jan 2021, 12:30 am
More images of MAGA zombie apocalypse
breaking into the whitehouse. I bet if this was antifa the death toll would have been massive, Police have exercised tremendous restraint.
[youtube]blob:https%3A//www.news.com.au/b3780716-c9b3-4667-b31d-be130b6965c0[/youtube]
07 Jan 2021, 12:31 am
auntblabby
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07 Jan 2021, 12:31 am
07 Jan 2021, 12:32 am
cyberdad wrote:
More images of MAGA zombie apocalypse
breaking into the whitehouse. I bet if this was antifa the death toll would have been massive, Police have exercised tremendous restraint.
[youtube]blob:https%3A//www.news.com.au/b3780716-c9b3-4667-b31d-be130b6965c0[/youtube]
breaking into the whitehouse. I bet if this was antifa the death toll would have been massive, Police have exercised tremendous restraint.
[youtube]blob:https%3A//www.news.com.au/b3780716-c9b3-4667-b31d-be130b6965c0[/youtube]
How many people did the police kill in the antifa riots/protests?
Serious question.
07 Jan 2021, 12:33 am
07 Jan 2021, 12:34 am
07 Jan 2021, 12:37 am
Pepe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
On the bright side, many Republicans are currently dropping Trump like a bad habit.
Trump is out of his tree.
I think a lot of Republicans are happy to have a good excuse to drop this fool.
XFilesGeek wrote:
Also, anyone with half a brain could see Trump was bad news. His supporters....even worse.
Partisanship. Really?
You did say a lot of Trump supporters are dropping him like a hot potato.
Talk about Trump making a politically bad move.
XFilesGeek wrote:
Any of the "centrists" and "moderates" who have tried to defend his nonsense, and repeat the mantra, "both sides are equally bad" should be feeling pretty embarrassed right now. Do you want fascism? Because this is how you get fascism.
So, now you are lashing out at people who want to be rational, reasonable and non-partisan?
"My way or the highway"?
I don't think so, Tim.
Your reasoning is erroneous.
Republicans are turning on Trump, and rightly so.
There is no "binary" here.
you're projecting your own emotionalism onto Xfiles, who just stating the rational obvious.
How so?
naturalplastic wrote:
You need to take some sedatives to calm you down.
I'm an Australian, not an American.
I have an emotional distance from American politics, which I have displayed for years, that Amerikans understandably don't.
naturalplastic wrote:
you're making all kinds of flaws in reasoning yourself.
"Evidence".
Show me where I am thinking illogically.
naturalplastic wrote:
Rational and reasonable does not necessarily equal nonpartisan.
It usually does.
But I will amend.
Rational, reasonable *and* objective.
naturalplastic wrote:
If you really were rational reasonable and nonpartisan you have seen Trump as grifting snake he is from the get go back in 2016.
If *you* were rational, you wouldn't be using emotive terminology.
naturalplastic wrote:
Notice that Xfiles put "moderate" into quotes. Because that not what the said folks really were anyway. They partisan supporters of Trump, or his dupes.
XFG was attacking anyone who had a non-partisan view, also.
I find this odd.
XFilesGeek wrote:
So she was not doing (what you actually ARE doing) which is "lashing out" at folks "who wanna be rational".
I am not lashing out at anyone.
I am being rational, reasonable, objective, and incorporating new information as it comes my way.
I.E. The usual.
Saying that Trump is a grifter is simply stating an objective fact.
Why do accuse Xfiles of lashing out at folks who are moderate and objective when she is not doing that all? And why do you react so emotionally by falsly accusing her? You obviously ARE being quite irrational.
The suggestion that there aren't anti-social elements on either side of the political divide, is self-evident nonsense.
Re-read what was said:
Quote:
Any of the "centrists" and "moderates" who have tried to defend his nonsense, and repeat the mantra, "both sides are equally bad" should be feeling pretty embarrassed right now.
naturalplastic wrote:
And its not that you are "removed" from the US. Its that you're ignorant of the issues and fail to see implications that americans see.
Yes, that is your *opinion*.
I see nothing to suggests you have the only valid perspective on current events.
You do realise *all* WP members are entitled to voice their opinion.
Some, in other threads, have suggested those outside America shouldn't be allowed to voice their thoughts regarding American politics.
Is this your view also?
BTW, it is interesting that you selectively avoid answering some of my questions.
For example, please explain where my argument is illogical.
You can't cancel someone's argument by saying something without a counter-argument.
If you have none, you shouldn't have made the comment in the first place.
I answered it several times. For the umpteenth time you have no argument because you accused XFiles of something she is not doing.
You have the right to be ignorant. And to express your ignorance. And I have the right to point out that you're ignorant. Dont know what your point is. you're the one who is trying to stamp out my freedom of speech.
07 Jan 2021, 12:37 am
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
More images of MAGA zombie apocalypse
breaking into the whitehouse. I bet if this was antifa the death toll would have been massive, Police have exercised tremendous restraint.
[youtube]blob:https%3A//www.news.com.au/b3780716-c9b3-4667-b31d-be130b6965c0[/youtube]
breaking into the whitehouse. I bet if this was antifa the death toll would have been massive, Police have exercised tremendous restraint.
[youtube]blob:https%3A//www.news.com.au/b3780716-c9b3-4667-b31d-be130b6965c0[/youtube]
How many people did the police kill in the antifa riots/protests?
Serious question.
How many times did antifa invade the US Congress while it was in session? Serious question.
07 Jan 2021, 12:41 am
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Also, assuming the report is correct, it is in conflict with what cyberdad said.
Um, it's exactly how I proposed it went down!?
You said "security guards", right?
In the article it said she was killed by a plain clothes officer.
cyberdad wrote:
They said the woman who was shot was part of a group of multiple individuals that forced entry into the House room that was still in session.
You didn't acknowledge the photo I posted...here it is again
If she was dumb enough to cross into a sitting session of the whitehouse with plains clothes officers pointing loaded weapons then nobody should be surprised by the outcome.
You didn't acknowledge the photo I posted...here it is again
If she was dumb enough to cross into a sitting session of the whitehouse with plains clothes officers pointing loaded weapons then nobody should be surprised by the outcome.
Many people were shocked that the woman was shot.
I don't think this would happen in Australia.
Maybe it is an American thing.
But we don't know the entire circumstance.
4 people now dead, btw.
3 due to "medical conditions", whatever that is.
07 Jan 2021, 12:41 am
07 Jan 2021, 12:51 am
auntblabby
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07 Jan 2021, 12:54 am
Pepe wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
those mouth-breathing goons were acting just like a bunch of pissant brownshirts stepping out of the history books IMHO.
They were extremists, yes.
Anyone who does something like that is.
People, all around the world, are shocked.
Except the China*s*.
They are just laughing.
yes, that last point is the most shameful
thing about all this, our mouth breathers are playing right into the hands of our enemies without a clue.
07 Jan 2021, 12:58 am
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Pepe wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
On the bright side, many Republicans are currently dropping Trump like a bad habit.
Trump is out of his tree.
I think a lot of Republicans are happy to have a good excuse to drop this fool.
XFilesGeek wrote:
Also, anyone with half a brain could see Trump was bad news. His supporters....even worse.
Partisanship. Really?
You did say a lot of Trump supporters are dropping him like a hot potato.
Talk about Trump making a politically bad move.
XFilesGeek wrote:
Any of the "centrists" and "moderates" who have tried to defend his nonsense, and repeat the mantra, "both sides are equally bad" should be feeling pretty embarrassed right now. Do you want fascism? Because this is how you get fascism.
So, now you are lashing out at people who want to be rational, reasonable and non-partisan?
"My way or the highway"?
I don't think so, Tim.
Your reasoning is erroneous.
Republicans are turning on Trump, and rightly so.
There is no "binary" here.
you're projecting your own emotionalism onto Xfiles, who just stating the rational obvious.
How so?
naturalplastic wrote:
You need to take some sedatives to calm you down.
I'm an Australian, not an American.
I have an emotional distance from American politics, which I have displayed for years, that Amerikans understandably don't.
naturalplastic wrote:
you're making all kinds of flaws in reasoning yourself.
"Evidence".
Show me where I am thinking illogically.
naturalplastic wrote:
Rational and reasonable does not necessarily equal nonpartisan.
It usually does.
But I will amend.
Rational, reasonable *and* objective.
naturalplastic wrote:
If you really were rational reasonable and nonpartisan you have seen Trump as grifting snake he is from the get go back in 2016.
If *you* were rational, you wouldn't be using emotive terminology.
naturalplastic wrote:
Notice that Xfiles put "moderate" into quotes. Because that not what the said folks really were anyway. They partisan supporters of Trump, or his dupes.
XFG was attacking anyone who had a non-partisan view, also.
I find this odd.
XFilesGeek wrote:
So she was not doing (what you actually ARE doing) which is "lashing out" at folks "who wanna be rational".
I am not lashing out at anyone.
I am being rational, reasonable, objective, and incorporating new information as it comes my way.
I.E. The usual.
Saying that Trump is a grifter is simply stating an objective fact.
Why do accuse Xfiles of lashing out at folks who are moderate and objective when she is not doing that all? And why do you react so emotionally by falsly accusing her? You obviously ARE being quite irrational.
The suggestion that there aren't anti-social elements on either side of the political divide, is self-evident nonsense.
Re-read what was said:
Quote:
Any of the "centrists" and "moderates" who have tried to defend his nonsense, and repeat the mantra, "both sides are equally bad" should be feeling pretty embarrassed right now.
naturalplastic wrote:
And its not that you are "removed" from the US. Its that you're ignorant of the issues and fail to see implications that americans see.
Yes, that is your *opinion*.
I see nothing to suggests you have the only valid perspective on current events.
You do realise *all* WP members are entitled to voice their opinion.
Some, in other threads, have suggested those outside America shouldn't be allowed to voice their thoughts regarding American politics.
Is this your view also?
BTW, it is interesting that you selectively avoid answering some of my questions.
For example, please explain where my argument is illogical.
You can't cancel someone's argument by saying something without a counter-argument.
If you have none, you shouldn't have made the comment in the first place.
I answered it several times. For the umpteenth time you have no argument because you accused XFiles of something she is not doing.
I was actually asking you to clarify.
I wasn't asking for a snarky retort.
naturalplastic wrote:
You have the right to be ignorant. And to express your ignorance. And I have the right to point out that you're ignorant. Dont know what your point is. you're the one who is trying to stamp out my freedom of speech.
And you have the right to be irrational/emotionalistic.
Where was I "trying to stamp out your freedom of speech"?
That doesn't sound like me.
Please cut and paste.
07 Jan 2021, 1:02 am
