Ebola

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That's it ! ! The gates are shut. None may enter ! !! !

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ ... 6-14-24-38

I hope that works.It's too late to close the door when the wolf is in the house.

A Grad student at Yale is in Hospital getting checked out. He was in Liberia and became sick.

That plane in Spain now has 5 passengers under observation due to illness.

I think we missed on containment. It can be done, it was done, but not in the infected countries.

Projections are for 10,000 new cases a week in two months. In the same areas, they are being cared for at home, because what few clinics were available were turning away people, and their staff was dying.

West Africa has been the source of most of the illegals crossing into Europe, and illegals are not scanned.

The Black Death first showed up in the ports, slowly spread through the port cities, followed trade routes, and as it moved from a few deaths, with everyone doing a lot of dying anyway back then, to mass deaths, the people of the cities infected scattered into the countryside, bringing it with them.

We are about to see more dead than can be buried, the living having no food, and they will scatter in all directions. Closed borders allow no food in, because you cannot get back out.

It is the season to plant crops, that was disrupted by Ebola. Seed, fertilizer, fuel, could not be found.

There were also a few unresolved civil wars going on, there are armed groups that can cross borders and find food.

Borders in the area are a few border posts at road crossings, and nothing along most of it.

America has not been able to seal it's southern border. Africa has no chance.

While they keep playing up it is only spread from fluids, the reality is those fluids can keep Ebola alive outside the body, and in cold situations, Ebola lasts forever at 32F. The handrail on a New York subway station, Ebola can survive for months.

A Level Four Biohazard is the top Class, any contact spreads it.

The plane the nurse few on was cleaned by the local crew, then sent to another location where all the seat covers and air filters were replaced. I doubt those crews wore Level Four Gear.

Planes are air conditioned, which preserves Ebola.

It is not about people bleeding from the eyes, moderate apes spend several hours a week in sexual activity. It has proven to be a way to spread a virus. IV drug use, shared needles, would also spread it before symptoms develop.

While the nurses did not have top line biohazard gear, only 99.99% protection, they still got infected.

Top level biohazard, Bio Weapons production, the hot stuff is always contained, the workers are in Hazmat 4, and the lab has layers of decontamination to get out. All things are burned on the site.

It is hard enough to keep up cleanroom technology, when it is contained.

When it was hundreds, a few thousand, a few hospital ships and burial at sea could have stopped it. Reduce the cases faster than they appear, isolate the sick, stop the epidemic.

Science Fiction writers have been warning of the danger, history shows the 1918 Flu, and they all came to the same view, the only way the humans survive is if the virus mutates to a non lethal form.

As even after there are no more humans to spread it it will persist in dogs, pigs, bats, the only survivors will be those with a natural immunity. There may be hundreds, even a few thousand.

While survivors have some immunity, it does not last, the same for vaccines, they wear off, and do not work on closely related strains.

On the bright side, The Earth will flourish like never before.

Well yeah, it is kind of like 'Wild Kingdom'. But at the microscopic level. The tendency of these things to become less lethal may be natures innate way of ensuring its survival by not killing off all its hosts. Live hosts probably spread it better then dead ones.

Update: The Yale grad's preliminary test showed negative Ebola.

Correction: Only one of the Spanish cases was a passenger. Don't know where the other four are from or how they are suspected.

Just FYI and all, it's entirely airborne insofar as someone coughing or such and you're within 1 meter of the sick individual. Entirely the same as influenza; it just doesn't live on surfaces as long.

(Inside info.)

The President is going to appoint an Ebola Czar. One person to be in total charge, except the President said not of air traffic.

Spokes people have said, It cannot happen here. America is exceptional and Ebola knows better than to come here.

Considering the track record of the Terror Czar, the Drug Czar, I have doubts.

Sure we screen, but come Flu season, we could pull a million out of airports, use up all of the space available, and I am more worried about Ebola reaching other places. Mexico is a favored place for those who want to enter America at night.

Mexico does not have the resources to contain an epidemic.

In the hot zone are people with money, government connections, who would rather take their families somewhere with good medical care. They are real countries, they have an embassy in Washington, and a UN Delegation in New York. They have large families who want to come visit.

We need one point of entry, isolation for three weeks, and Ellis Island did work. It still leaves the problem that we will not know if the planes are infected. If the cleaning crew gets infected, everyone who flew on those planes should be watched.

Our isolation rooms and biohazard preperation do not seem up to the task. Both nurses have been moved out of Texas.

Testing for Ebola takes time, and a hundred people in Texas are staying home and seeing if they develop symptoms. There are more, other people who were at the hospital when the Ebola case came in, and was processed through the emergency room. People who flew with the nurse, and on the next flight of the plane are staying home. One case has produced hundreds of potential cases.

I have not found out how many are coming out of the hot zone, symptom free for travel. None are proven Ebola Free. With cases exploding to 10,000 a week, this is a bad bet. With cases doubling each month, it is a worse bet.

Sending in 3,000 Marines did not seem like a good idea. They were supposed to be building field hospitals, but the medical system caved in, and they cannot build fast enough to deal with 10,000 a week. There is no medical staff to run them.

Mountain climbers talk of when do you cut the rope. Those hanging in mid air are going to take everyone else with them.

50,000 cases a week, the best treatment option is carpet bombing with Napalm.

Most of the outbreak is in the capital, Monrovia, where a million live. They are optimistic, saying they are only short 80,000 body bags over the next six months. According to the WHO, that would not last six weeks.

At 10,000 a week, more than 10% of the city will be in some stage of Ebola. In another month, 20%.

Obama now wants to send in the National Guard. They are not trained for this, no one is.

Every sailor knows there is a time to close the watertight doors, save the ship, and as many lives as possible, those trapped below decks, were just in the wrong place.

Burn Monroiva, save Liberia.

In 1960 the population was one million, two million in 1994, and it doubled in the last twenty years.

That is with the loss of a half million in the two recent civil wars.

The neighbors have closed the borders to save West Africa, and will burn Liberia to save themselves.

We do have some wide area gas bombs, they spread then explode, killing everything in less than a second. Then napalm to sterilize, body disposal, then the ruins would be safe to erase. The Port and Airport would mostly survive.

From that beachead Ebola can be contained and treated in the smaller cities and towns.

We missed the chance to deal with thousands of cases, we have to act before it is millions.

I am not sure but think people have been talking two different types of airborne.

I think the medical establishment means it can be gotten by being breathed into the lungs like the common cold and influenza. Those diseases can establish themselves in the lungs. This Ebola, supposedly is not able to do that. Though a different strain of Ebola that affects monkeys can, and there is fear that this Ebola might mutate and gain the ability to infect thru the lungs.

Everyday people are looking at the chance one can get it from droplets in a infected persons cough or sneeze, etc. Essentially a transmission thru the air. And it seems that is true, but it still would have to infect a person in a different way, thru a different entry point.

This is where I am getting confused on the actual mechanics of this fluid to fluid transmission. Does that mean thru the stomach, like ingesting, an open cut, thru the eye ??? etc, etc.

I thought I saw something this morning about the CDC saying they are not in fact sure about all the details of how people are contracting it.

Seems to be exactly like influenza; droplets hitting a mucous membrane (eyes, nose and mouth). The main difference being it doesn't live as long on the surface and it's not as infectious during the incubation period. If someone symptomatic coughs/vomits/sneezes within a meter of you, you're pretty much dead.

That's what they were telling the people at the designated hospital in my state of Oz if it comes here in their emergency Ebola meeting (this is from a person who was there and rather high up the ladder).

So the media reports are pretty much lying or misinformation as far as that official meeting went.

That would explain the ease of contagion then, if it can get in thru mucus membranes. It doesn't need to get to the lungs if its already in your throat/nasal passages.

In Spain the nurse was said to have touched her face while taking off the biohazard gear.

In Liberia they are giving rubber gloves to caretakers.

It seems it can get through the skin.

Prevention is constant hand washing with a bleach solution.

The Texas nurses no one says how, but they did have better than most protection.

Two out of 77, almost 3% infection rate with protection.

Many more suited up, treated the paient, then went back to their regular hospital duties.

Biological samples went through the regular lab process, no containment.

No word on the people living with the paient.

The nurses got tested as soon as they had any health problems, and they did. Others such as the Mexicans who hosed off the sidewalk might think it was just a bad taco.

It has been a week, we have to wait and see.

My goodness, I have never seen such hysteria in my life. LOL

Confirmed Ebola cases in the US: 5 (I am including the two doctors which came back)

Number of cases of plague in the United States annually: 7

http://www.cdc.gov/plague/maps/

Never mind there are outbreaks of measles, pertussis, etc. due to not vaccinating children if they are able to.

When I see someone who might have Ebola, I'll call the proper people and try to stay away. Until then, I'll wait until after the elections for this to die down and something else takes its place.