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13 Jan 2018, 7:50 pm

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Maybe you need a reading comprehension class on top of the government/civics and history classes that you seem to be lacking knowledge in.

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13 Jan 2018, 7:53 pm

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Have you ever stopped to think that it's that attitude toward non-progressive that helped get Trump elected?

What attitude is that? equality, egalitarianism for all?


The left supports egalitarianism and equality but only if it's under their terms.
But I was thinking more of the arrogance and condescension shown towards one of the biggest if not the biggest demographic they claim to be in support of; the "working class".
Keep it up though, the more you and your kind post here the deeper we can find out how deep the rabbit hole goes. Not to mention that it's dandy entertainment for me.

You know, I had kind of stopped posting on WP but you and your little buddy Darkmetalknight and a few others made me realize how much fun I've been missing. I've made time just to hang out here and spread my toxic conservativism. :P


This new left wing utterly despise the working class.


Yes, because no liberals are working class. :lol:


Yeah, they can't have pesky jobs getting in the way of protest marches and vandalism, tree hugging, peacenik-ing, and sundry other rabble rousing adventures.


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13 Jan 2018, 8:06 pm

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Yeah, they can't have pesky jobs getting in the way of protest marches and vandalism, tree hugging, peacenik-ing, and sundry other rabble rousing adventures.


Funny it was Obama who made those "pesky" jobs not Trump
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/141266/ ... -obama-did



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13 Jan 2018, 9:03 pm

More evidence of Trump's actions against non-white immigrants
http://www.theage.com.au/world/racism-s ... 0hzb1.html

Seems to be a pattern here...



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13 Jan 2018, 9:26 pm

you will never convince the 62 million or even a fraction of them, they are incapable of changing their minds. they voted for the person who convinced them that he hates the same people they do, that is all that matters to them.



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13 Jan 2018, 9:27 pm

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you will never convince the 62 million or even a fraction of them, they are incapable of changing their minds. they voted for the person who convinced them that he hates the same people they do, that is all that matters to them.



That's quite true.


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13 Jan 2018, 9:37 pm

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you will never convince the 62 million or even a fraction of them, they are incapable of changing their minds. they voted for the person who convinced them that he hates the same people they do, that is all that matters to them.


Trump's approval rating has gone down since he was elected ... and he only barely won.

The Democrats are already set for victory.

Of course, the represent.us movement needs to succeed before the next election or else the Democrats will give us another false liberal.

https://represent.us/
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Spread this around to as many people as possible. These guys are saying everything that I have been trying to say.


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13 Jan 2018, 11:12 pm

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Where is the economic growth, seems like Trumps economic solution thus far is more tax breaks for the wealthy, how does that create economic growth?


let me try to answer what i think is a possible answer to your question. if it was rhetorical, then sorry..no need to read on.
i am a foreigner and do not know anything about economics in any qualified way, let alone the state of how life is in the USA.

but "tax breaks for the wealthy".
by "wealthy" it means people who own corporations i believe. i think the press has skewed it a bit. we heard in australia that it was corporate tax breaks.
a man who has retired with $50 million in the bank, has already payed his taxes on the income required to amass it when he was earning it.
you never pay tax twice on old income.
the only taxes those super rich retirees pay is land tax and capital gains on the interest they earn from investments like stocks or just interest from sitting in the bank. i do not think they have received tax breaks from their meagre contributions.

so the corporations have received the tax breaks, and their increased profits are then subject to the "trickle down"
effect.
more profit = more expansion = more employees who pay their taxes to the government at the same old rate.
more expansion results in increased coverage and more sales and more profits which then go on to fund further expansion which needs more new employees.

"but", one may say, "if we still can't afford to buy anything, then what's the use?"
the increased expansion will result in increased competition as well, and so prices will have to come down, or wages will have to go up.
since each corporation hires a small number of employees on a per-capita basis (even 1 million is 1 to 320), then the chances that of that percentage of people buying their own products they make is insignificant really.
to raise wages is to also raise your employees ability to purchase your competition's product.

so the only answer is reduction of margins (gross profit per unit of sale).
so when the company was small, they maybe made $5 on each product they sold. but they needed it to fund their business.
but there is such a thing as "the economy of scale", and it is much better to have 1000 times the buyers with a margin of only cents per product. it adds up to more profit and less instability.

so prices will come down i am sure and more jobs will be created due to the corporate tax cuts.
nothing ever trickles up.

in australia, we have a rule (i guess it's a rule) where wage indexation is tied to inflation.
so if inflation is at 3%, then it is law for employees to raise wages by 3%. this is like a dog chasing it's tail really.
but the law does not apply to deflation.
and neither should it.

almost all our "political commentators" on TV in australia say that trump is certainly improving economic conditions in the USA.

jobs are up.
black unemployment is at the lowest rate in 45 years.
the dow and nasdaq are now at all time highs (better than pre GFC).

it will trickle down.
the poorest will have to wait a while.

metaphor.....
it's like a limestone sediment layer where the water is poured on top and eventually trickles down to feed an underground river.
the only renewable source of water is the water poured on top. underground injections from a finite source will eventually exhaust the source and the whole structure dies.
end metaphor.

when the poor, in a few years, have jobs, they will be stable and sustainable and not the result of stimulus by the government that is limited.

dunno. it makes sense to let the wealth makers have a bit more leash to run with.



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13 Jan 2018, 11:16 pm

nothing in this life trickles down but the rain. when I was in the army there was a common phrase, "$#!+ runs downhill." that and the rain. money NEVER trickles down to us commoners.



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13 Jan 2018, 11:19 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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Yeah, they can't have pesky jobs getting in the way of protest marches and vandalism, tree hugging, peacenik-ing, and sundry other rabble rousing adventures.


Funny it was Obama who made those "pesky" jobs not Trump
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/141266/ ... -obama-did


Jobs handing out welfare checks?


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13 Jan 2018, 11:32 pm

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nothing in this life trickles down but the rain. when I was in the army there was a common phrase, "$#!+ runs downhill." that and the rain. money NEVER trickles down to us commoners.


All those tax cuts do is inflate the savings accounts of the super rich. If the Republicans were really dedicated to trickle down, they'd pass and enforce laws in which corporations would have to demonstrate how they had reinvested their tax refunds and hired more people, or else be required to repay said tax refunds.


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13 Jan 2018, 11:37 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
nothing in this life trickles down but the rain. when I was in the army there was a common phrase, "$#!+ runs downhill." that and the rain. money NEVER trickles down to us commoners.


All those tax cuts do is inflate the savings accounts of the super rich. If the Republicans were really dedicated to trickle down, they'd pass and enforce laws in which corporations would have to demonstrate how they had reinvested their tax refunds and hired more people, or else be required to repay said tax refunds.

I don't understand why so many of the 62 million think trickle down is a real thing in the face of all evidence against it? is it because they are all so convinced they are gonna be rich also someday that they're willing to play along with the robber barons?



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13 Jan 2018, 11:49 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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nothing in this life trickles down but the rain. when I was in the army there was a common phrase, "$#!+ runs downhill." that and the rain. money NEVER trickles down to us commoners.


All those tax cuts do is inflate the savings accounts of the super rich. If the Republicans were really dedicated to trickle down, they'd pass and enforce laws in which corporations would have to demonstrate how they had reinvested their tax refunds and hired more people, or else be required to repay said tax refunds.

I don't understand why so many of the 62 million think trickle down is a real thing in the face of all evidence against it? is it because they are all so convinced they are gonna be rich also someday that they're willing to play along with the robber barons?


They've bought into that bull$hit that if they just work harder, they'll die billionaires. They're the same ones who believe Trump is a self made billionaire.


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13 Jan 2018, 11:56 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
nothing in this life trickles down but the rain. when I was in the army there was a common phrase, "$#!+ runs downhill." that and the rain. money NEVER trickles down to us commoners.


All those tax cuts do is inflate the savings accounts of the super rich. If the Republicans were really dedicated to trickle down, they'd pass and enforce laws in which corporations would have to demonstrate how they had reinvested their tax refunds and hired more people, or else be required to repay said tax refunds.

I don't understand why so many of the 62 million think trickle down is a real thing in the face of all evidence against it? is it because they are all so convinced they are gonna be rich also someday that they're willing to play along with the robber barons?


They've bought into that bull$hit that if they just work harder, they'll die billionaires. They're the same ones who believe Trump is a self made billionaire.

and not a money launderer for worldwide organized crime. just watch, as soon as Mueller gets closer to the root money, something bad will happen, I dread it.



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13 Jan 2018, 11:59 pm

auntblabby wrote:
nothing in this life trickles down but the rain.

and the "rain" in this metaphor is the economic stimulation created by massive profits.
the government can not own everything.
they just benefit from it.
they stimulate it.
it fills their coffers.
when the debt your previous government incurred is paid (not by austerity measures either), then universal health care can be addressed.
everything can be addressed if there is almost complete employment.
even out in the sticks where "lizard mom" (sp?) lives, there will be benefits.
the amount of relief the upsurge in jobs creates on the welfare expenditure is enormous.
welfare must cost you hundreds of billions per year. probably more.
in australia it is $190 billion per year, but we have a much more generous welfare system than you which may bring the multiplication factor down somewhat on your side.

any significant relief on that burden is hugely needed.

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when I was in the army there was a common phrase, "$#!+ runs downhill." that and the rain. money NEVER trickles down to us commoners.


well if it didn't, then you would not have a cent.
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seriously, it is interesting to see the social convention of polarization into 2 congealed pools of opinion.

i will talk about the anti trumpers in the following sentences.
many people here in this thread have voiced their opinions and predictions before trump was even elected.
they wrote detailed hard thought out "missives" and they , by their assertions, staked the credibility of their logical minds (pride?) on the outcome conforming to their predictions.
they will never give up their original stance even in the face of blunt proof of the fallibility of their original "logically disseminated" conclusions. they will not give up their views because their ego is at stake.

i am talking about the strident ones like kraihgauer (sp?) and cyberdad the rest of the passengers on the "good ship lollypop".

if trump fails however, i will eat my words and admit i was never educated in the likely outcomes of anything in the first place. i would say "it just goes to show that running countries is a lot more difficult than i ever imagined"
i bet many pro trumpers will go down with the ship if he fails playing like the band on the titanic.

i don't know aunt blabby but you are more eloquent than the words you can "impactfully" choose to say.



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14 Jan 2018, 12:11 am

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jobs are up.
black unemployment is at the lowest rate in 45 years.
the dow and nasdaq are now at all time highs (better than pre GFC).

it will trickle down.
the poorest will have to wait a while.

And it's this that will determine the length of his presidency.
No one of any significance will give a s**t about these tabloidical screechings from a people that rely on government handouts more than earned income.
But he could have a second term in the bag before Nov. 2020 and just say f**k it and not run again.


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