07 Nov 2021, 7:21 pm
Fnord wrote:
You have just confessed to being unable to have a discussion without resorting to ad hominem attacks.
At least you finally admit it!
At least you finally admit it!Funny, you twist my words in order to make a personal attack on me, some might call that ironic.
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07 Nov 2021, 8:51 pm
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm trusting Maddow over Carlson, because Carlson has been promoting evil and dangerous ideas, which is in fact making a judgement about Carlson's record of accuracy, or lack thereof.
No, it's not, and clearly you don't understand the very concepts being discussed. You don't like what Carlson says, that does not mean what he says isn't true, and your failure to distinguish the two is concerning, to say the least.
Kraichgauer wrote:
Again, you're being obstinate, unless you actually believe Carlson's racist tripe about "the great replacement."
You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it does. Also, I can disbelieve a specific thing a person says while still thinking they're on balance accurate, it's not a difficult concept for most people.
I'm really starting to run out of ways to avoid stating the obvious here, in case any mods should happen to look at this exchange later.
Say it.
Let's see what happens.
07 Nov 2021, 9:06 pm
Fnord wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I mean, what is he going to tell the mods?
That it's impossible to argue with certain people without calling attention to certain deficits on their part, both moral and intellectual, and that I don't mean to be cruel, just accurate and honest. At least you finally admit it!Saying someone is stupid or an ignoramus is a personal attack.
Saying someone has difficulty with reasoning is an observation.
I hope you can see the distinction.
I can elaborate if you wish.
07 Nov 2021, 9:10 pm
Dox47 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I mean, what is he going to tell the mods? 
That it's impossible to argue with certain people without calling attention to certain deficits on their part, both moral and intellectual, and that I don't mean to be cruel, just accurate and honest.
Remember that best action in those situations is WALK AWAY.
If people are being dense, it doesn’t usually help anything to point it out, “honest” or not.
(Not to mention, the question of who is being dense v who is failing to communicate is quite subjective, and not an item of fact)
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07 Nov 2021, 9:10 pm
Dox47 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
You have just confessed to being unable to have a discussion without resorting to ad hominem attacks.
At least you finally admit it!
At least you finally admit it!Funny, you twist my words in order to make a personal attack on me, some might call that ironic.
It is called "A pile on".
Don't let him get you riled.
Quote:
Definition of pile on
US, informal
: to join other people in criticizing something or someone in usually an unfair way
US, informal
: to join other people in criticizing something or someone in usually an unfair way
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pile%20on
07 Nov 2021, 9:14 pm
Dox47 wrote:
You guys know I can tell when you report my posts, right? That's a funny one to pick, as I didn't aim it at anyone in particular, I just said it's hard not to draw certain conclusions when arguing with certain members without naming anyone. Personally, I think my replies to Kraichgauer are closer to the line, but then I'm not a wannabe junior moderator/The Smartest Man On Wrong Planet™ .
That position has already been filled.
Oh, you mean the *other* guy.
07 Nov 2021, 9:17 pm
Pepe wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I mean, what is he going to tell the mods?
That it's impossible to argue with certain people without calling attention to certain deficits on their part, both moral and intellectual, and that I don't mean to be cruel, just accurate and honest. At least you finally admit it!Saying someone is stupid or an ignoramus is a personal attack.
Saying someone has difficulty with reasoning is an observation.
I hope you can see the distinction.
I can elaborate if you wish.
I would suggest it is best to avoid saying either.
You can say “you don’t seem to be following my reasoning. Let me try a different explanation.”
When that doesn’t work, “you still aren’t seeing what I meant. I don’t know how else to communicate it.”
Phrase in a way that shows it as a communication problem, not either person’s fault. Fault does not need to be assigned, and intelligence does not need to be maligned.
Outside readers can reach their own conclusions on where the communication problem originates if that is what one is worried about.
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