Ebola

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But yes the danger is very great. It currently depends on whom and where you are mostly.



The epidemic in the Hot Zone is of course the worst, and is still increasing numerically and geographically. The very late promised aid, still mainly undelivered.



Outside West Africa the most danger is in the Medical profession. Health care workers overall are dying at a similar rate to coalition forces at the height of the wars in Afghanistan.

Well, it does have the potential to wipe out about 1/2 the population of the world by 2016.

Yes, these bugs are funny things. Even when this outbreak is contained and called over, Ebola doesn't go away. It simply lives on in reservoir hosts, and waits patiently for the next time humans are back on the menu. But it isn't totally dormant. It breeds, and mutates over time. Having spread to new locales, it tries new hosts.

There wasn't just the one Plague Epidemic in the Middle Ages. The Plague emerged several times before an after, and sometimes with catastrophic results. The so called Black Plague, was just the worst we know about. Its still out there, though not as virulent or deadly.

Ebola has to be considered likely to be the same in the sense of its persistence and deadly potential, and this just be the first major breakout. Nothing learned or developed against it now is wasted.

President Obama has taken a firm stand in defense of Ebola Tourism.
Americans have an undenyable right to take the wife and kids to Monrovia.

I for one always thought the end of the world would be better run.

Heh.

I was always betting for a failure in the Russian's ICBM system. But a failure in the US' deadly disease containment.... I never saw that one coming.

If it takes hold in the US, the literal hub of the world, you can kiss the current age goodbye.

I think Liberia at the moment has completely lost the fight to it.

and I have the potential to win the lottery. Won't happen,

But Richard, by Christmas they will be buying you ten thousand tickets a week, and twice that in another month.

The projection, by several parties, calls for everyone in Monrovia to have Ebola in four months.

In six months it will be everyone in Liberia.

The WHO says the person in charge of WHO programs in Africa refuses to answer to WHO headquarters, that they were a political appointee, they cannot even get visas, and their relief supplies are being held on the docks and refused entry.

By now those containers are empty, because Liberia is run by thieves.

If they get hundreds of millions for 4500 dead, just think of the cash flow when it reaches 100,000.

This is an ultimate government play, give us your money or die.

The Ebola Czar has drug companies lining up to make political gifts, and like Wall Street, get a Trillion for drug research.

Joe Biden's Lawyer is going to be in charge of everything? A political appointee?

Shades of Liberia.

We are on our own now, but a Liberian Prince has offered me a container of rubber gloves and protective suits for a very reasonable price.

The virus/epidemic apocalypse scenario has been used very frequently in movies for quite some time now though. Usually its zombies, but not always. Even has its own name: Infection Genre. Watching those always made me a little uncomfortable. There was something plausible about it. Not the zombie part, but the potential for a bug to break out. Perhaps even a weapon version. Recently Bird flu was purposely mutated in a lab to be able to more easily infect humans. It was done so as to be able to develop counters against it. But accidents happen (ie CDC mistakes), and others no doubt do such things with less philanthropic goals in mind. Anthrax was a big worry for a while. Will anyone purposely mess with Ebola?

Touche. Though the chances of my scenario are far greater than winning the lottery. Possibly 50/50 depending on certain variables.

They did, they had to.

Two things about bioweapons, have them, weaponize them, and then create a vaccine for your troops.

Most, like Anthrax, Rabies, are area weapons, exposure is not likely to spread.

When Ebola came along, it was picked up, kills quick, spreads fast. It takes the Virus to make vaccines, which the Russians are now mass producing, according to Russia Today. They say it is 80-90% effective, I wonder who they tested it on?

Some are too fast acting, the 1918 Flu, Parrot Fever, kill in twelve hours, and stop the spreading.

I do not think this a weapons test, as paient zero has been identified. A weapon would have more cases.

This is from the most remorseless killer of all time, Nature.

The 1918 Flu did kill 50 million, from healthy to dead in twelve hours, and it killed the healthy. It liked the young people, and older people who had had other flus were immune. It rocked WWI, where people were packed together in camps, troop ships, and trenchs.

From what I read, nothing worked, it was unstoppable, then it just got tired of killing people and stopped.

It stopped worldwide, like after so many reproductions, all the flu changed.

As for that hope, it became a normal flu, all Ebolas are deadly.

The Black Death liked Europeans. It was known in other places, but never became a problem.

It did in Europe what Smallpox did in the Americas, 75 million dead.

In both cases many who were exposed did not develop the disease. Some did not die.

Until the test is fully run in Monrovia, we will not have those numbers.

The Black Death popped up, ravaged a port city, then died down, then popped up somewhere else.

When it finally stopped, it returned a generation later, sometimes longer.

Some say those exposed who did not develop it did get immunity, but that wore off.

It is hard to tell what will happen, we have not done well since we recently discovered Virus.

Bah, its disappeared from the USA. The news coming out of Liberia is increasingly garbled. I was hoping for a lot more drama than this.

Lots of things disappear in he USA. As no one in their right mind would want to pick up an Ebola Case, all calls are routed to The Men in Black,

So what did the kidnappers look like? Something like the Pillsbury doughboy, or the Michelin Man, white inflated suits with space helmets, they strapped the person down on a cart, sealed them in bubble wrap, then loaded them in a UPS Truck.

We have an election coming, Ebola is the other guys fault.

Liberia is fairly simple, most of their health care workers died, they have no place to keep the new cases, so they give out rubber gloves and send them home. Even Doctors Without Borders is considering giving up. It is out of control, and there is no use dying.

Serria Leone is having a spike of cases, which they now count as bodies. The only treatment option is bury the dead, and they are having problems there.

Nigeria had one case who infected eight, and they vanished. It worked, no new cases.

No one wants to take credit for letting this happen.

The time to stop it was last month. A few thousand medics, some tent cities, it could have been contained.

Just letting it run it's course, it will not stay in Africa, and it will not just kill 70% and go away.

The UN, WHO, have been funded for many years just to deal with something like this, and they spent the money in Paris on the weekends.

Just before this a large number of experts in African Virus, were on that plane shot down in eastern Ukraine.

Look at who spent a billion to bomb ISIS, who are much less of a threat.

All failures are failures of management.

A main form of drama, is Tragedy.

/\ /\ As usual, well put Inventor. A handful of deaths are a tragedy, thousands are a statistic.

It has hit New York.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyreg ... .html?_r=0

/\ This is why they should never allow anyone known or suspected of being infected into the country, including American citizens.. Humanitarianism is all good but in cases like this the bigger picture has to be considered first.

Doesn't appear it's as infectious as I first thought.

Seems like it's really only able to thrive in areas with poor hygiene.