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Take it from me...a society that strives to live by Darwinian principles of "survival of the fittest" might be espousing the perfect virtues of rugged individualism (so cherished by you and Ezra) but also seems to underpin the ethos of hunger games or virtual reality games like "Big Brother" where only the strongest get to enjoy the spoils and the rest suffer the humiliation of consolation of life as wage slaves. This is actually ethically and morally indefensible and evidently contradicts the christian ethos of the founding fathers.

Am interesting side story was at the time of signing the declaration of independence, an inalienable declaration was made in the American constitution that;
"All men are born free and equal, and have certain natural, essential, and unalienable rights; among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; that of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property; in fine, that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness".

The founding fathers were made aware this declaration was incompatible with slavery but Before final approval, Congress, having made a few alterations to some of the wording, also deleted nearly a fourth of the draft, including a passage criticizing the slave trade. At that time many members of Congress, including Jefferson, owned slaves, which clearly factored into their decision to delete the controversial "anti-slavery" passage. Jefferson believed adding such a passage would dissolve the independence movement. Jefferson, decades before the Declaration of Independence, argued in court for the abolition of a slave. The court dismissed the case outright. In writing the declaration, Jefferson believed the phrase "all men are created equal" to be self-evident, and would ultimately resolve slavery. In 1776, abolitionist Thomas Day wrote: "If there be an object truly ridiculous in nature, it is an American patriot, signing resolutions of independency with the one hand, and with the other brandishing a whip over his affrighted slaves."

I pick on Jefferson who was a paedophile and a liar but Washington was also a crook. In order to get around the rule that slaves must be offered their freedom after 6 months of service in the state of Virginia he moved the slaves across state lines and reregistered them as slaves before bringing them back to Virginia,
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... 180954283/

So it's a fact that both Jefferson and Washington the founding fathers of the US were also criminals in their own country.

This therefore taints the constitution. We have similar problems in Australia where both the architect of our constitution and our first prime minster were also dishonest men.

Just out of curiosity do you mean "clone" not drone?

I'm not really part of the hive mind myself given I have no friends

Take it from me...a society that strives to live by Darwinian principles of "survival of the fittest" might be espousing the perfect virtues of rugged individualism (so cherished by you and Ezra) but also seems to underpin the ethos of hunger games or virtual reality games like "Big Brother" where only the strongest get to enjoy the spoils and the rest suffer the humiliation of consolation of life as wage slaves. This is actually ethically and morally indefensible and evidently contradicts the christian ethos of the founding fathers.

Am interesting side story was at the time of signing the declaration of independence, an inalienable declaration was made in the American constitution that;
"All men are born free and equal, and have certain natural, essential, and unalienable rights; among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; that of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property; in fine, that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness".

The founding fathers were made aware this declaration was incompatible with slavery but Before final approval, Congress, having made a few alterations to some of the wording, also deleted nearly a fourth of the draft, including a passage criticizing the slave trade. At that time many members of Congress, including Jefferson, owned slaves, which clearly factored into their decision to delete the controversial "anti-slavery" passage. Jefferson believed adding such a passage would dissolve the independence movement. Jefferson, decades before the Declaration of Independence, argued in court for the abolition of a slave. The court dismissed the case outright. In writing the declaration, Jefferson believed the phrase "all men are created equal" to be self-evident, and would ultimately resolve slavery. In 1776, abolitionist Thomas Day wrote: "If there be an object truly ridiculous in nature, it is an American patriot, signing resolutions of independency with the one hand, and with the other brandishing a whip over his affrighted slaves."

I pick on Jefferson who was a paedophile and a liar but Washington was also a crook. In order to get around the rule that slaves must be offered their freedom after 6 months of service in the state of Virginia he moved the slaves across state lines and reregistered them as slaves before bringing them back to Virginia,
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... 180954283/

So it's a fact that both Jefferson and Washington the founding fathers of the US were also criminals in their own country.

This therefore taints the constitution. We have similar problems in Australia where both the architect of our constitution and our first prime minster were also dishonest men.

In what sense? Why is it devolving to expect equality in effort and work ethic? You equate 'pay' with equality, but are fine with claiming that not everyone can perform up to certain standards (but should experience pay equality, none the less). You want equal pay as a participation trophy, of sorts. And that's not the way it works. Workers receive a base salary, commission and raises are seen as incentive to perform better.

What you term evolving, I see as completely irrational. I'm sure a 36 hour worker (or less) would love to make enough money to kick back for the rest of the week. Wouldn't we all. There shouldn't be an incentive to be the least that you can be. Incentives exist to 'out' the over achiever or the one willing to bust their hump. Don't you think it's even the slightest bit weird to scream, "I can't do it, but I deserve to be paid the same as the ones who can?!" Wait, but you just said, we're all equal. "We are only equal in our right to be paid more! We should get a pass for being 'low energy.'

I wonder how you'd feel if the cop you call for assistance was 'low energy.' Or what about the bank teller who posts your paycheck? "I'm sorry sir, but expect a 2 day longer than usual delay because I'm 'low energy.'

This is why 'righties' don't listen to you. You want maximum pay for minimum qualifications and energy expenditure. The battle cry for these 'equality' driven lefties should be, "alright everyone, work slower. No need to set yourselves apart, we're all equals here."

I am clearly talking about business, jobs and wages. And you are deflecting.

That is all a lot of palaver for do not want to make an effort but get the same benefits as those who do. I don't deserve these slave wages. I deserve to have what the person who worked at establishing a career has. Good number of people who make big bucks also work long hours. But hell no don't want to do that. Just give me the benefits because I deserve equality. I am entitled dammit.

You know my feelings don't come from conservatives. They come from being a fighter. I have almost died a couple of times, but I fought my way through it. They said I would never walk or talk or do anything except eat and crap myself. I overheard them because they thought I was too out to lunch to understand. I did not have to go through grueling physical, occupational and speech therapy. I could have stayed right were I was at. But I fought to achieve and I got results. I am not making a speech about what a hero I am. I just know from personal experience if you want something you have to work for it. You have to earn it.

No, I said I want workers to be able to make enough to realize something of the American dream, and to be able to buy more goods and services in order to spur the economy on.
I don't recall ever using the term, "low energy."

Well, I'm glad you were able to fool everyone and come out on top.

No, I said I want workers to be able to make enough to realize something of the American dream, and to be able to buy more goods and services in order to spur the economy on.
I don't recall ever using the term, "low energy."

Well, I'm glad you were able to fool everyone and come out on top.

That is all a lot of palaver for do not want to make an effort but get the same benefits as those who do. I don't deserve these slave wages. I deserve to have what the person who worked at establishing a career has. Good number of people who make big bucks also work long hours.

Yeah I fooled everyone by striving hard and making sacrifices to achieve.
It is kind of a 'rags to riches' story.
What you seem to want is rags to riches without striving and making sacrifices.
Those who strive and make sacrifices to achieve are supposed to play fairy godmother to those don't.

"Fool everyone?" That's kinda dismissive and condescending... What I heard was that he overheard his 'naysayers' and refused to listen. Then, proceeded to work his butt off to achieve a goal, in the face of overwhleming odds. That is what I consider a fighting American spirit.

If you're against income inequality, then embrace capitalism.

Because business take their production to the lowest cost places on the planet.

Thus, raising up the poorest people on the planet.