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07 Sep 2019, 2:30 am

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There are no stepping stones to future career promotions when you are living hand to mouth....


Yes there are but it takes some ambition, vision, and intelligence.
How many rags to riches success stories do I need to post?

How many lottery winners stories do I need to post? So we should all go buy tickets and wait around doing nothing since it’s guaranteed we will win right? Right? Right? But others have so it must be able for everyone to win right?

Sorry capitalism needs poor workers to survive. We need stores gas pumpers, janitors, maintained employees, staff etc. without low wage workers the whole system would collapse.
And as you clot bf he Corp ladder there’s less and less jobs and the people in those jobs don’t want to give hem up. There’s not more being made, you only need so many ceos, mangers, cfos etc.
take the military it can’t all be generals. You can’t have a army of generals, sure some few will work hard and become generals, but 99% of them won’t. Majority will be at most Corp. since a squad needs only one Sargent, and a platoon only needs one lt, a battalion only needs one col. so the majority will be private’s, specialist and corp,
That’s how the world works. My store can only have one store manager. So u til he retires or gets fired no one can move up.

Rags to riches is extremely rare, if nit alone for the fact any pyramid needs it’s base then for the fact there only so much money the more rich people there all the less each rich person has, and they won’t have that.

But doesn’t matter cause we need low paid workers. The ceo isn’t going work the cash register, stock the shelf’s, mop the floor.

Look at any company staff list and you’re see most it’s emplo are min wage with a few tiny staff at the top making millions.

Rags to riches is about as common as winning the lottery I wouldn’t bet your life on it.
Plenty of people work their asses off and get no where, the coal miners work way harder the bill gates ever did.


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07 Sep 2019, 2:40 am

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No Ezra...there are millions of American citizens working below minimum wage
https://www.epi.org/blog/millions-of-wo ... imum-wage/

There are no stepping stones to future career promotions when you are living hand to mouth....


So what happened to Americans don't work those kinds of jobs, so millions of illegal immigrants can't take those jobs away from them?

What Raptor said. Tons of people who do alright started out with nothing. Tons of legal immigrants who came to the US with nothing have set themselves up well.



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07 Sep 2019, 2:49 am

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There are no stepping stones to future career promotions when you are living hand to mouth....


Yes there are but it takes some ambition, vision, and intelligence.
How many rags to riches success stories do I need to post?


A lot of people who do poorly vocation wise started out with doing poorly in school. And I am not talking about learning disabled. I am talking about those who did not apply themselves.



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07 Sep 2019, 3:06 am

If there were no illegal migrants there would still be working poor....

I take the point there are people who strive to achieve (despite their predicament) but the current disparity in wealth means something is not working....
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wealt ... 2018-07-19



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07 Sep 2019, 3:17 am

You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.



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07 Sep 2019, 3:24 am

Manifesto? I'm not a politician



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07 Sep 2019, 3:27 am

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Empathy is something conservatives too often hold in contempt

Only from a naïve, give me candy, child-like perspective.


Or maybe that perspective is shared by greedy conservative rich people who feel that as they've got theirs, then they don't have to share with the "undeserving."

When a liberal pleas, "GIVE ME MONEY OR THE WORLD ENDS"
or in this article, "GIVE US FREE HEALTH CARE OR WE DIE".

The conservative has the maturity to see ….

1. Likely, the world won't end.
2. Likely, money (charity) doesn't solve the base problem.
3. Dependence breeds dependence.
4. Money (charity) given to unappreciative people is distasteful.
5. There's no pot of gold with FREE MONEY that we just reach in and take from.

The greatest compassion we can show these people is how NOT TO GET THEMSELVES INTO THIS BAD SITUATION.


No, everyone won't die, but plenty will.
So, why isn't the right helping anyone to feed themselves? I see the right saying it's just tough love getting people to take care of themselves, but then do very little or nothing to accomplish that.


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07 Sep 2019, 3:30 am

sly279 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
There are no stepping stones to future career promotions when you are living hand to mouth....


Yes there are but it takes some ambition, vision, and intelligence.
How many rags to riches success stories do I need to post?

How many lottery winners stories do I need to post? So we should all go buy tickets and wait around doing nothing since it’s guaranteed we will win right? Right? Right? But others have so it must be able for everyone to win right?

Sorry capitalism needs poor workers to survive. We need stores gas pumpers, janitors, maintained employees, staff etc. without low wage workers the whole system would collapse.
And as you clot bf he Corp ladder there’s less and less jobs and the people in those jobs don’t want to give hem up. There’s not more being made, you only need so many ceos, mangers, cfos etc.
take the military it can’t all be generals. You can’t have a army of generals, sure some few will work hard and become generals, but 99% of them won’t. Majority will be at most Corp. since a squad needs only one Sargent, and a platoon only needs one lt, a battalion only needs one col. so the majority will be private’s, specialist and corp,
That’s how the world works. My store can only have one store manager. So u til he retires or gets fired no one can move up.

Rags to riches is extremely rare, if nit alone for the fact any pyramid needs it’s base then for the fact there only so much money the more rich people there all the less each rich person has, and they won’t have that.

But doesn’t matter cause we need low paid workers. The ceo isn’t going work the cash register, stock the shelf’s, mop the floor.

Look at any company staff list and you’re see most it’s emplo are min wage with a few tiny staff at the top making millions.

Rags to riches is about as common as winning the lottery I wouldn’t bet your life on it.
Plenty of people work their asses off and get no where, the coal miners work way harder the bill gates ever did.


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07 Sep 2019, 3:32 am

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You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


Non-white conglomeration through interracial marriage???


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07 Sep 2019, 4:22 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


Non-white conglomeration through interracial marriage???


Translation: Mexican corporate take-over :lol:



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07 Sep 2019, 5:35 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


Non-white conglomeration through interracial marriage???


You have not heard that one?



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07 Sep 2019, 5:37 am

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Manifesto? I'm not a politician


So out of everything I wrote my using the word manifesto is the only part you feel I got wrong. I did add a whatever, as in whatever you want to call it.



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07 Sep 2019, 5:38 am

cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


Non-white conglomeration through interracial marriage???


Translation: Mexican corporate take-over :lol:


Are you mocking your own suggestion?



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07 Sep 2019, 8:18 am

EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


Non-white conglomeration through interracial marriage???


Translation: Mexican corporate take-over :lol:


Are you mocking your own suggestion?


Like any good politician I think he's trying to distance himself from that statement now, and just stick with socialism.


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07 Sep 2019, 8:22 am

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Manifesto? I'm not a politician



Few politicians publish a true manifesto, it's hard to go back on something that's in writing.
Manifestos are often reserved for madmen like Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler and mass shooters.


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07 Sep 2019, 12:20 pm

sly279 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
There are no stepping stones to future career promotions when you are living hand to mouth....


Yes there are but it takes some ambition, vision, and intelligence.
How many rags to riches success stories do I need to post?

How many lottery winners stories do I need to post? So we should all go buy tickets and wait around doing nothing since it’s guaranteed we will win right? Right? Right? But others have so it must be able for everyone to win right?

Sorry capitalism needs poor workers to survive. We need stores gas pumpers, janitors, maintained employees, staff etc. without low wage workers the whole system would collapse.
And as you clot bf he Corp ladder there’s less and less jobs and the people in those jobs don’t want to give hem up. There’s not more being made, you only need so many ceos, mangers, cfos etc.
take the military it can’t all be generals. You can’t have a army of generals, sure some few will work hard and become generals, but 99% of them won’t. Majority will be at most Corp. since a squad needs only one Sargent, and a platoon only needs one lt, a battalion only needs one col. so the majority will be private’s, specialist and corp,
That’s how the world works. My store can only have one store manager. So u til he retires or gets fired no one can move up.

Rags to riches is extremely rare, if nit alone for the fact any pyramid needs it’s base then for the fact there only so much money the more rich people there all the less each rich person has, and they won’t have that.

But doesn’t matter cause we need low paid workers. The ceo isn’t going work the cash register, stock the shelf’s, mop the floor.

Look at any company staff list and you’re see most it’s emplo are min wage with a few tiny staff at the top making millions.

Rags to riches is about as common as winning the lottery I wouldn’t bet your life on it.
Plenty of people work their asses off and get no where, the coal miners work way harder the bill gates ever did.


My point being (and I think you know it) that the opportunities are out there, not that everyone is going to look for them and jump on them.
And the lottery is a game of chance where unlike your life, you have zero control over the outcome.


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