08 Sep 2022, 12:11 pm
08 Sep 2022, 12:15 pm
Numerous controls and their results didn't stop Trump from insisting he won and trying to take the power back. That's where he crossed the line of being a direct threat to democracy in its very foundations.
BTW - here, we have international cooperations of supervising each other's elections. Maybe it's adaptable to US realities?
It seemed mighty funky to me as it took place. Not saying rigged. But definitely highly unusual.
Mmhmm, the most secure election in US history that's been audited 8 ways from Sunday was "funky," because the orange guy refused to accept he lost.
It seemed funky, screwy, unusual et al to me while it was taking place. And I wasn't listening to the big bad orange man at the time. All you know about how secure it was is based on what they told you to believe.
All you know about it seeming funky was based on what they told you to believe, too. Chances are highly unlikely you were all over the country observing the election as it happened.
At least audits have all been reviewed by elections officials and judges. If there was anything funky, trumplestiltskins 60 something lawsuits claiming election fraud wouldn't have gone absolutely nowhere.
Nope, it's based on what was happening during the time it took place. It was a tight race, but protracted well beyond the usual amount of time it takes to complete. There were other differences too as far as mail-in ballots go etc.
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08 Sep 2022, 12:18 pm
^ sounds like election denier nonsense to me.
I've seen many close races in elections. I've never ever thought anything seemed funky about it. It's always been perfectly clear that ~1/2 the people vote one way and ~1/2 the people vote the other, and the candidate that gets a few more votes than the other gets to be the peoples' corporate representative for the next round of charades.
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You can say that again
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08 Sep 2022, 12:27 pm
Why?
I'm quite enjoying the return to almost normalcy by our neighbours to the South. Sucks that there are some extremist violent trump followers threatening to tear society apart on behalf of their favourite presidential election loser. The USA could do with some boring quiet healing times instead of violence.
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08 Sep 2022, 12:45 pm
As I don't listen to his speeches life, the fact that he's not a great speaker does not bother me.
I believe a non-Trump Republican president would do no worse than Biden on this. It's not a political alignement think, it's a competence thing.
Yes, this.
I've never hated a us president before trump, so it's not a partisan thing. There have been republican presidents - it's that they were normal people, not the world's biggest a-hole to everyone.
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08 Sep 2022, 12:46 pm
More maga threats to democracy - gop training election workers to violate elections laws.. sounds like election interference and/or fraud on trump's behalf to me: https://fb.watch/fpUTWYG6nE/
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08 Sep 2022, 12:48 pm
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08 Sep 2022, 12:57 pm
Why?
I'm quite enjoying the return to almost normalcy by our neighbours to the South. Sucks that there are some extremist violent trump followers threatening to tear society apart on behalf of their favourite presidential election loser. The USA could do with some boring quiet healing times instead of violence.
Biden's just keeping the oligarchy chugging along with a more pleasant demeanor.
And that is very good for global, and domestic at home in the USA, peace!
What good comes from the USA being torn apart by trump cultists? Rather not see that happen - I live too close to gun country.
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08 Sep 2022, 1:16 pm
Why?
I'm quite enjoying the return to almost normalcy by our neighbours to the South. Sucks that there are some extremist violent trump followers threatening to tear society apart on behalf of their favourite presidential election loser. The USA could do with some boring quiet healing times instead of violence.
Biden's just keeping the oligarchy chugging along with a more pleasant demeanor.
And that is very good for global, and domestic at home in the USA, peace!
What good comes from the USA being torn apart by trump cultists? Rather not see that happen - I live too close to gun country.
Do you really understand how things are degrading in the U.S.at a record pace and how the majority of the population are living paycheck to paycheck?
Do you even know the definition of the word "oligarchy?"
I understand all of those things.
Do you really think Biden is the cause of them all and that they aren't the culmination of decades of bs from both sides of the political divide designed to enrich the richest Americans and placate the plebs while they continue to get poorer and more easily controlled?
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08 Sep 2022, 1:31 pm
So, you somehow blame him for the design, creation, and perpetuation of the entire system that he's merely one small cog in the machine of?
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