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19 Mar 2020, 6:24 pm

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A slogan popular in Polish internet - my unprofessional translation:

"For the first time in history, you can save the humanity by sitting on a couch and watching TV all day. Don't f^ck it up."



hahaha love it Sounds like something Agent Carter in Rush hour would say


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19 Mar 2020, 6:27 pm

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We now have a new term that has now been inserted in our vernacular-- "social distancing."

Hold my Corona! I've been preparing for this my whole life! Give me six feet, f*****s, or doused with Lysol. Well, I don't actually have any Lysol at the moment, but I've got several of bottles of hydrogen peroxide I've put into plastic spray bottles and I'm not afraid to use them!


Most autistics have known this virtue for most of their lives.
I am a virtuoso, in fact. 8)

Perhaps the social paradigm shift away from hugging, kissing and shaking hands will stick, even after things get back to "normal".
We can only hope. :wink:



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19 Mar 2020, 6:34 pm

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I don't think Europe is all that bad.

Italy is 92% mild vs 8% severe.

Spain is 94% mild vs 6% severe.

Germany is 100% mild vs 0% severe.

France is 88% mild vs 12% severe.

France is worse than Italy along those lines.

UK is 99% mild vs 1% severe.

The rest of Europe does not even have those individual stats so probably close to 100% mild in all the other countries.


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19 Mar 2020, 6:37 pm

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as for supplies and masks it is better to have and not need then it is to need and not have.

Better stockpile everything and let it rot than give others chance to use it?

Yes!
Now *THAT'S* the survivalist spirit!
I am proud of you. :mrgreen:



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19 Mar 2020, 6:42 pm

VegetableMan wrote:
We now have a new term that has now been inserted in our vernacular-- "social distancing."

Hold my Corona! I've been preparing for this my whole life! Give me six feet, f*****s, or doused with Lysol. Well, I don't actually have any Lysol at the moment, but I've got several of bottles of hydrogen peroxide I've put into plastic spray bottles and I'm not afraid to use them!


If hydrogen peroxide is all you have, you might want to scroll back to when I misunderstood your question about toilet paper substitutes. I have a bad answer for toilet paper but a pretty good answer for Lysol substitutes.



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19 Mar 2020, 6:45 pm

Timeline: The early days of China's coronavirus outbreak and cover-up

Axios has compiled a timeline of the earliest weeks of the coronavirus outbreak in China, highlighting when the cover-up started and ended — and showing how, during that time, the virus already started spreading around the world, including to the United States.

Why it matters: A study published in March indicated that if Chinese authorities had acted three weeks earlier than they did, the number of coronavirus cases could have been reduced by 95% and its geographic spread limited.


https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-earl ... 5faab.html


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19 Mar 2020, 6:45 pm

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Are they bothering to mention that probably about 95% of those cases are mild?

It's like 3,615 cases AHHHHH!

Instead of what is probably something like 3,315 mild cases and 300 severe.

But that's not alarming enough of course.


You forgot the "RRR" on the end of your "AHHHHH!, my buccaneer friend.
It's: "AHHHHHRRR!"
We have to keep a united front against these ignorant landlubbers, matey. :ninja:

Hoist the jib, and set sail.
We needs to plunder some galleons for provisions to continue the fight...errr... :scratch:



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19 Mar 2020, 6:53 pm

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Timeline: The early days of China's coronavirus outbreak and cover-up

Axios has compiled a timeline of the earliest weeks of the coronavirus outbreak in China, highlighting when the cover-up started and ended — and showing how, during that time, the virus already started spreading around the world, including to the United States.

Why it matters: A study published in March indicated that if Chinese authorities had acted three weeks earlier than they did, the number of coronavirus cases could have been reduced by 95% and its geographic spread limited.


https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-earl ... 5faab.html


The conspiracy plot sickens.
A good way to cripple the world's economy.

But China has been and will be affected greatly too.
Already many countries are planning to create their own strategic material and commodity industries or diversify where they source them, away from China.

If it is true that China has a strategic mission, the expression "Shot themselves in the foot" springs to mind.

Stay tuned for further information on the development of this seriously serious situation.
Same time, same channel. 8)



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19 Mar 2020, 7:01 pm

https://dailypost.ng/2020/03/19/covid-1 ... ests-ncdc/

Nigeria, a country of over 200 million...

..has five testing sites for COVID-19.



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19 Mar 2020, 7:04 pm

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If I throw one football to you how many are you going to catch?
If I overload you and have 10 footballs thrown your way a once how many are you going to catch?


Personally speaking, I wouldn't touch any of them.
Have you seen those sweaty sportspeople perspiring all over the balls? 8O

Good analogy.
There is one on youtube somewhere using a bucket of water being poured into another bucket with a small open spout at the bottom.
"We" need to "flatten the sombrero". :wink:



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19 Mar 2020, 7:47 pm

"Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate." - Michael Leavitt, former HHS Secretary under President George W. Bush



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19 Mar 2020, 7:49 pm

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Warm weather helps. Period.

I think there are MANY factors at play including amount of people tested, elderly population, quality of treatment, cultural behavior, social distancing, preventative measures (including masks & hygiene), amount of doctors and healthcare workers, hospitals, job industries, tourism/ travel, population density, government aid, and so on.

It's a taboo topic, but religion is a factor as well, as in New Rochelle, NY. If you tell me Florida is not affected, I will be highly skeptical. Of course, European tourists are another factor.

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How many people have been tested in India, Mexico, and African countries?

You wouldn't bring up this question, at all, if you are a scientist. If you know anything about exponential growth, you know the starting count is pretty much irrelevant. After a few weeks, there is simply no place to hide for the cases. We are not talking about linear growth, we are talking about exponential growth. When the situation has been out there for 3 months already, it's irrelevant to talk about how many people have been tested. In the typical countries, the doubling periods are 3~4 days. There is no way for the cases to hide, after one month, with or without people being tested.


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19 Mar 2020, 7:53 pm

EzraS wrote:
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There was an interesting article published in the NYT last night:

American adults of all ages — not just those in their 70s, 80s and 90s — are being seriously sickened by the coronavirus, according to a report on nearly 2,500 of the first recorded cases in the United States.

The report, issued Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that — as in other countries — the oldest patients had the greatest likelihood of dying and of being hospitalized. But of the 508 patients known to have been hospitalized, 38 percent were notably younger — between 20 and 54. And nearly half of the 121 patients who were admitted to intensive care units were adults under 65, the C.D.C. reported.

“I think everyone should be paying attention to this,” said Stephen S. Morse, a professor of epidemiology at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health. “It’s not just going to be the elderly. There will be people age 20 and up. They do have to be careful, even if they think that they’re young and healthy.”

In the C.D.C. report, 20 percent of the hospitalized patients and 12 percent of the intensive care patients were between the ages of 20 and 44, basically spanning the millennial generation.

“Younger people may feel more confident about their ability to withstand a virus like this,” said Dr. Christopher Carlsten, head of respiratory medicine at the University of British Columbia. But, he said, “if that many younger people are being hospitalized, that means that there are a lot of young people in the community that are walking around with the infection.”

Source: Younger Adults Make Up Big Portion of Coronavirus Hospitalizations in U.S.


We'll know a lot more about this virus in the next month or so. I think the picture will become clearer as to why China moved to lock down whole cities over something that we were led to believe initially was "just a cold" or "less dangerous than the flu."


Might as well ask why China sells wild animal meals on street corners. They do things differently there. Statically in China's case covid-19 probably was less dangerous than the flu. Since up to 60,000 people die of the flu in America, I can only imagine what the numbers are in a country of 1.5 billion.


If we ask, we're xenophobic racists.


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19 Mar 2020, 8:31 pm

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We now have a new term that has now been inserted in our vernacular-- "social distancing."

Hold my Corona! I've been preparing for this my whole life! Give me six feet, f*****s, or doused with Lysol. Well, I don't actually have any Lysol at the moment, but I've got several of bottles of hydrogen peroxide I've put into plastic spray bottles and I'm not afraid to use them!


If hydrogen peroxide is all you have, you might want to scroll back to when I misunderstood your question about toilet paper substitutes. I have a bad answer for toilet paper but a pretty good answer for Lysol substitutes.


I actually found some toilet paper, so I'm good there. But I am open to disinfecting alternatives.


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19 Mar 2020, 8:37 pm

I think this thread should be disinfected every 100 posts or so.

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19 Mar 2020, 8:49 pm

First time ever: US State Dept. issues Level 4 Global Health Advisory, recommending no international travel:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... issue.html


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