16 Dec 2012, 2:23 am
Evinceo wrote:
alex wrote:
Evinceo wrote:
So she taught him how to use weapons and provided access to them.
If she was his only human contact, then she is solely responsible for his conduct.
If she was his only human contact, then she is solely responsible for his conduct.
No, he alone is solely responsible for his own conduct.
We all influence eachother, we all cause things to happen. Many states have laws requiring people to lock up guns so that their children don't have access to them. To prevent children from being killed.
She failed to prevent her child from obtaining her weapons.
As a result, children where killed.
yes, I was going to make the same comment
she was his guardian
A huge mistake on her part
16 Dec 2012, 2:45 am
makaser wrote:
The thing that comes to mind for me, when I heard he may have a diagnosis of Aspergers, is the current state of services for autistic children. In school I was an outcast, a geek, nerd, whatever. Had very few friends and was considered even by those few friends to be "odd". I'm 40 years old, so no diagnosis of Aspergers existed when I was young. I was just the weird kid. My girlfriend is a behavioral therapist working with elementary aged children with autism and aspergers. So I see daily the terrible state our community is in when it comes to behavioral support for children. The schools and school districts do every thing they can to avoid providing support for these kids. I know for certain that if as a child I had been given the kind of support my girlfriend can give to her clients, it would have helped me a great deal. It is for certain a wrong headed line of thinking to say it was Aspergers syndrome that is the cause of his actions. However, the SYMPTOMS and the effect on his life and on his psyche, of those symptoms, can certainly be said to have played a part in his actions. ANYONE, who feels isolated, alone, mistreated, and humiliated will have a greater propensity towards acting out. Autism and Aspergers are not the only issues in a persons life that will bring those things on. Many neurotypical people will have the same problems in life. The difference is, most neurotypical people will have the ability to seek help and have the social connections to work their way through them. Without some kind of support, people with autism will have a larger struggle. I think that if it does in fact come to light that he had a diagnosis of autism or aspergers, it will be up to our community to use this unfortunate event to bring to light the serious need for the children of our community to have greater access to support and counseling to help them deal with the challenges of early life that so many of us struggle with.
Great post, I totally agree with your comments
welcome to the wrong planet
16 Dec 2012, 2:53 am
Surfman wrote:
A huge mistake on her part
...And she sure as hell paid for it. Really though, who believes that their child is capable of murdering them and then killing a bunch of children, as far as we know, purely for the hell of it? I'm reserving judgment until we know more, for all we know the kid never showed a single sign of violent disposition before, and no reasonable person could have anticipated this. Or he could have been an obvious and raging psycho and everyone should have known it, but either way we don't know enough yet to pass judgment.
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okay okay
thanks for the replies
its not a subject I am familiar with
thanks
16 Dec 2012, 4:21 am
Surfman wrote:
Evinceo wrote:
alex wrote:
Evinceo wrote:
So she taught him how to use weapons and provided access to them.
If she was his only human contact, then she is solely responsible for his conduct.
If she was his only human contact, then she is solely responsible for his conduct.
No, he alone is solely responsible for his own conduct.
We all influence eachother, we all cause things to happen. Many states have laws requiring people to lock up guns so that their children don't have access to them. To prevent children from being killed.
She failed to prevent her child from obtaining her weapons.
As a result, children where killed.
yes, I was going to make the same comment
she was his guardian
A huge mistake on her part
And now they're starting to paint her as a frenzied paranoid, preparing for doomsday and turning her home into a fortress. No confirmation on it, but it would begin to explain where the craziness was coming from...
16 Dec 2012, 5:51 am
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