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06 Feb 2018, 7:53 am

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Well I guess it was the home of Frazier Crane...wasn't he a "dyed in the wool" republican in TV and in real life (kelsey Grammer is a conservative)


What does a soundstage and an actor have to do with anything?



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06 Feb 2018, 3:39 pm

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Well I guess it was the home of Frazier Crane...wasn't he a "dyed in the wool" republican in TV and in real life (kelsey Grammer is a conservative)


What does a soundstage and an actor have to do with anything?

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06 Feb 2018, 3:41 pm

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There's Million+ homes going up all over Vancouver, too, but people who live and work here can't afford to buy them. .

This sounds familiar...who's buying?


Chinese mostly.

Entire condo buildings get presold in China now.

Most of them don't live here. Some do - that's why we're now the super car capital of North America.. Mclaren's for high school graduation gifts.

Prices/rents/unoccupied homes - everything is WAY out of balance right now & we're the least affordable real estate market in North America, price:local income.


Yes, in addition to Australia I have contacts in NZ and the UK who have exactly the same stories. The Chinese government has lifted restrictions on taking money out of the country. Now it feels like an invasion...all my neigbours don't speak English. quite unnerving



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06 Feb 2018, 6:14 pm

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There's Million+ homes going up all over Vancouver, too, but people who live and work here can't afford to buy them. .

This sounds familiar...who's buying?


Chinese mostly.

Entire condo buildings get presold in China now.

Most of them don't live here. Some do - that's why we're now the super car capital of North America.. Mclaren's for high school graduation gifts.

Prices/rents/unoccupied homes - everything is WAY out of balance right now & we're the least affordable real estate market in North America, price:local income.


Yes, in addition to Australia I have contacts in NZ and the UK who have exactly the same stories. The Chinese government has lifted restrictions on taking money out of the country. Now it feels like an invasion...all my neigbours don't speak English. quite unnerving


That it is. The rates of evictions, working class poverty, etc here are obscene. Like people are beginning to plan rallies & protests as they're at their breaking point. People here are pretty calm peace loving folks in general, so that says a lot when they're thinking it's time to literally take it to the streets. There's no easy solution to this... banks, gov't, criminal enterprises of the largest magnitude, peoples home equity appreciation at stake.. so much money it's insane. No level of gov't wants to be responsible for pissing off anyone on any side. At this point it's so crazy that it's not just home owners vs. renters. Many owners are cheering for a crash, too. And there are many who've lived in their homes for decades and can't afford to stay because their property taxes are now through the roof.

At least it's providing some very serious entertainment with stories like this one - a VERY impressive, vertically integrated, criminal enterprise that laundered many MANY millions of dollars into Vancouver real estate. And this is the work of ONE guy:

http://theprovince.com/news/national/hu ... e=Facebook

Then there's the 46,000 "investor immigrants," who paid their bribe money to the Province of Quebec in order to enter Canada and then skipped town to Toronto or Vancouver and stashed $$$ into real estate piggy banks. There are SO MANY multi-millionaires in China that they just keep coming and it's distorted our hottest real estate markets to the nth degree.

The very house I live in & am posting this from was purchased for an incredibly reasonable $450K (VERY good deal at the time - it was the last new home in this development and was $30K off & no tax because the developer wanted it sold so they could move on) 10-11 years ago. Today it's assessed value is over $1M & it would probably list for ~$1.1M. This is a decent neighbourhood of new family homes in the suburbs ~50min drive from downtown Vancouver in no traffic. This is where the regular wage earning working class are supposed to be able to live. Everyone's expectations are downsizing by the day. Millenials are literally renting couches to sleep on, never mind a bedroom. Skilled workers are leaving because even of they make $90k/year (more than double the average income) they can't afford to buy even a 1 bedroom condo, let alone a family home of any kind. Even some doctors, lawyers, and engineers who make way above average incomes are saying "f**k this place, gotta go!" It's going to be verrrry interesting to see how this all plays out over the next couple years especially, because we thought it was expensive before.. but now that it's making many people hit their breaking points ever faster, something's gonna happen. Bubble burst? Ghost town? Who knows.. time will tell.


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06 Feb 2018, 7:24 pm

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EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Well I guess it was the home of Frazier Crane...wasn't he a "dyed in the wool" republican in TV and in real life (kelsey Grammer is a conservative)


What does a soundstage and an actor have to do with anything?

reflections


Oh you mean like him representing the upper crust of Seattle? As for the character I found:

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It was never stated explicitly, but I think it's safe to assume that both Frasier and Niles had liberal leanings and were sympathizing with the democratic party.

Niles and Frasier are definitely liberal Democrats, and while Martin is a Republican


https://www.frasieronline.co.uk/forum/v ... f=2&t=5939



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06 Feb 2018, 7:40 pm

So, EzraS, is Arthur Jones just a stereotype of the GOP created out of DNC mythologies?

IMO, no. He is very real. (He actually is.) He's an actual representation of the GOP - former leader of the American Nazi party. Liberals aren't making him up to demonize Republicans. He's simply an actual part of their disgusting ideologies that people are justifiably protesting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/arth ... 5433b5bd84


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06 Feb 2018, 8:10 pm

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So, EzraS, is Arthur Jones just a stereotype of the GOP created out of DNC mythologies?

IMO, no. He is very real. (He actually is.) He's an actual representation of the GOP - former leader of the American Nazi party. Liberals aren't making him up to demonize Republicans. He's simply an actual part of their disgusting ideologies that people are justifiably protesting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/arth ... 5433b5bd84


Ultimately the stereotype is that all republicans are nazis or nazi sympathizers. In this case you're trying to prove that it's not a just stereotype.



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06 Feb 2018, 8:11 pm

I know some Republicans who are real jerks. None of these jerks are even close to being Nazis.



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06 Feb 2018, 8:13 pm

people tend to forget that the Nazis were a singular type of evil. but it needs to be said that today's breed of fascist is constantly bumping up against the limits of the same old evils and one day [if not stopped in their tracks] will exceed the performance of the Nazis in this regard, at least.



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06 Feb 2018, 8:19 pm

In other words republicans are neo-nazis. And liberalism is pure goodness put on this earth to combat those fascists.



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06 Feb 2018, 8:22 pm

He's not saying that at all. He's not saying they're neo-Nazis.

The problem is that there is a perception that Republicans are creating an atmosphere which makes neo-Nazis more "acceptable" and "mainstream" somehow.

I am sure, however, that the vast majority of Republicans would want to punch a Nazi, too.



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06 Feb 2018, 9:04 pm

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In other words republicans are neo-nazis. And liberalism is pure goodness put on this earth to combat those fascists.


Now you’re catching on. Did you not notice the nazi affiliated Trump Administration members like Sebastian Gorsech? (sp)


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06 Feb 2018, 9:37 pm

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He's not saying that at all. He's not saying they're neo-Nazis.

The problem is that there is a perception that Republicans are creating an atmosphere which makes neo-Nazis more "acceptable" and "mainstream" somehow.

I am sure, however, that the vast majority of Republicans would want to punch a Nazi, too.


Well maybe one person specifically is not saying that. But overall that's either the strong implication or outright accusation.

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EzraS wrote:
In other words republicans are neo-nazis. And liberalism is pure goodness put on this earth to combat those fascists.


Now you’re catching on. Did you not notice the nazi affiliated Trump Administration members like Sebastian Gorsech? (sp)


There you go. Finally some honesty instead of beating around the bush. This is something I caught onto pretty much from the start.

Btw aren't you the one who talks about cherry picking?



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06 Feb 2018, 10:08 pm

It’s not every single last Republican, but it seems there are an awful lot more Nazis, Nazi sympathizers, and white supremacists in the GOP than DNC.

Different topic:

Wealthy liberal citizens tend to be higher educated coastal city dwellers, and they believe in more socialist ideals than right leaning red state citizens. I’d be curious to see the amount of tax paid by each & who’s supporting who. My guess is that lefties pay more tax and righties receive more benefit from it.


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07 Feb 2018, 1:26 am

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It’s not every single last Republican, but it seems there are an awful lot more Nazis, Nazi sympathizers, and white supremacists in the GOP than DNC.\

The tikki torch carriers in Charlotseville represent the new alt-right who probably absorbed the old right wing tea party people who hated the idea of Obama as a president
The young men in the alt-right are not terribly unlike the beer hall thugs in the early German Nazi party



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07 Feb 2018, 1:35 am

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Then there's the 46,000 "investor immigrants," who paid their bribe money to the Province of Quebec in order to enter Canada and then skipped town to Toronto or Vancouver and stashed $$$ into real estate piggy banks. There are SO MANY multi-millionaires in China that they just keep coming and it's distorted our hottest real estate markets to the nth degree.


This is the crux of the issue. There are strong links in both our political parties here in Australia with the Chinese government and one labor minister was sacked for taking gifts from a Chinese company.

The statistics published on foreign ownership of residential housing does not explain why entire inner city suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney are completely owned by overseas Chinese? (bribery?) Older residents have complained over (among other things) the demolition of attractive inner city period character homes to be replaced by ostentatious ugly mansions (we call them "Mcmansions) and the replacement of family owned businesses with ultra expensive boutique stores and businesses catering exclusively for a Chinese market with no English signage (hence the invasion analogy)

I can guarantee if their is a home auction in any postcode 30km from the CBD then a Chinese buyer will outbid everyone else. New home buyers are moving further away. Established home owners (like myself) feel socially isolated and no longer feel like we live in a community. It's like a foreign country just sprung up in our neigbourhood