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07 Sep 2019, 1:37 pm

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You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


What do you think about people marrying interracially?


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07 Sep 2019, 2:37 pm

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There are no stepping stones to future career promotions when you are living hand to mouth....


Yes there are but it takes some ambition, vision, and intelligence.
How many rags to riches success stories do I need to post?


A lot of people who do poorly vocation wise started out with doing poorly in school. And I am not talking about learning disabled. I am talking about those who did not apply themselves.

I did quite well in school. Graduated college on the presidents list and invited to honor society.


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07 Sep 2019, 2:42 pm

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There are no stepping stones to future career promotions when you are living hand to mouth....


Yes there are but it takes some ambition, vision, and intelligence.
How many rags to riches success stories do I need to post?

How many lottery winners stories do I need to post? So we should all go buy tickets and wait around doing nothing since it’s guaranteed we will win right? Right? Right? But others have so it must be able for everyone to win right?

Sorry capitalism needs poor workers to survive. We need stores gas pumpers, janitors, maintained employees, staff etc. without low wage workers the whole system would collapse.
And as you clot bf he Corp ladder there’s less and less jobs and the people in those jobs don’t want to give hem up. There’s not more being made, you only need so many ceos, mangers, cfos etc.
take the military it can’t all be generals. You can’t have a army of generals, sure some few will work hard and become generals, but 99% of them won’t. Majority will be at most Corp. since a squad needs only one Sargent, and a platoon only needs one lt, a battalion only needs one col. so the majority will be private’s, specialist and corp,
That’s how the world works. My store can only have one store manager. So u til he retires or gets fired no one can move up.

Rags to riches is extremely rare, if nit alone for the fact any pyramid needs it’s base then for the fact there only so much money the more rich people there all the less each rich person has, and they won’t have that.

But doesn’t matter cause we need low paid workers. The ceo isn’t going work the cash register, stock the shelf’s, mop the floor.

Look at any company staff list and you’re see most it’s emplo are min wage with a few tiny staff at the top making millions.

Rags to riches is about as common as winning the lottery I wouldn’t bet your life on it.
Plenty of people work their asses off and get no where, the coal miners work way harder the bill gates ever did.


My point being (and I think you know it) that the opportunities are out there, not that everyone is going to look for them and jump on them.
And the lottery is a game of chance where unlike your life, you have zero control over the outcome.

My point being they aren’t out there except for few lucky or rich connected people.

We need higher min wage since most people can t get those opportunities.
For every bill gates there millions of poor people


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07 Sep 2019, 2:49 pm

EzraS wrote:
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You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


Non-white conglomeration through interracial marriage???


You have not heard that one?


Yes, but only from racists.


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07 Sep 2019, 4:14 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


Non-white conglomeration through interracial marriage???


You have not heard that one?


Yes, but only from racists.



Glad you've noticed what we have, Cyberdad came up with that one. God forbid Asians be allowed to marry other Asians, IF they so choose. Or blacks marry blacks, and so on. Cyberdad says the only way to do away with racism is intermarriage. Then everyone will be a nice acceptable shade of beige (that's my added sarcasm). And that will redistribute wealth too. I argued what if they didn't want to intermarry? He didn't seem to have a response, so I assumed he would force it upon them, just like socialism, were he in power. Hence, the need for a Manifesto.


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07 Sep 2019, 5:00 pm

Persephone29 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


Non-white conglomeration through interracial marriage???


You have not heard that one?


Yes, but only from racists.



Glad you've noticed what we have, Cyberdad came up with that one. God forbid Asians be allowed to marry other Asians, IF they so choose. Or blacks marry blacks, and so on. Cyberdad says the only way to do away with racism is intermarriage. Then everyone will be a nice acceptable shade of beige (that's my added sarcasm). And that will redistribute wealth too. I argued what if they didn't want to intermarry? He didn't seem to have a response, so I assumed he would force it upon them, just like socialism, were he in power. Hence, the need for a Manifesto.


No, I'm talking about the notion that interracial marriage is controlled by the government. My oldest friend in the world, who had spent most of his adult life in Arizona and has become someone completely different, has said interracial marriage is a means by the government to make us all brown in order to destroy the white race.


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07 Sep 2019, 6:32 pm

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No, I'm talking about the notion that interracial marriage is controlled by the government. My oldest friend in the world, who had spent most of his adult life in Arizona and has become someone completely different, has said interracial marriage is a means by the government to make us all brown in order to destroy the white race.


And ironically this illustrates something of a "manifesto" that plenty of decent white folks believe but don't make public.

The Boston comedian Bill Burr was correct that Hollywood portrays racism as something overt and in your face but those days are long gone. Burr correctly surmises that white folk wait till the "coast is clear" before saying racist "s**t". I think this is so covert that white folk who do race surveys deliberately answer positively out of fear of being labelled racist (despite the survey being anonymous).

There is even a psychological reason for doing this
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-do-t ... 79d4edbb15

Most racists basically are reluctant to reveal their beliefs about other races except in the strict confines of close friends or family



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07 Sep 2019, 7:19 pm

beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


What do you think about people marrying interracially?


I have no problem with it. Especially considering that I have a Japanese uncle, a Dominican aunt and an African American aunt. All of my first cousins are of course mixed race and we are all a close-knit bunch. But those marriages happened out of love rather than there being any kind of an agenda involved.



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07 Sep 2019, 7:31 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
You have said too many times that Americans do not work below minimum wage jobs and only illegals will work them to go back on it now. And we all know you want socialism. So why not cut out the superfluousness and just say you want a socialist government where no one makes too much or too little. And you want everyone to marry interracially so there will be a non-white conglomeration being controlled by the government. Just write out a manifesto or whatever instead of beating around the bush and being coy.


Non-white conglomeration through interracial marriage???


You have not heard that one?


Yes, but only from racists.


I have heard of the idea of a unified race being established through mass interracial marriage a few times. And not by racists. At least not by white supremacist racists. There are many who want to see the white race eliminated or absorbed. That should not come as a surprise.



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07 Sep 2019, 7:38 pm

I doubt anyone who gets into an interracial relationship does it with some type of "manifesto" agenda :lol:

In case anybody has amnesia this happened within my lifetime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia

And some this happened in the last few years
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49571207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=funJ_K_II3Q

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07 Sep 2019, 7:48 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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No, I'm talking about the notion that interracial marriage is controlled by the government. My oldest friend in the world, who had spent most of his adult life in Arizona and has become someone completely different, has said interracial marriage is a means by the government to make us all brown in order to destroy the white race.


And ironically this illustrates something of a "manifesto" that plenty of decent white folks believe but don't make public.

The Boston comedian Bill Burr was correct that Hollywood portrays racism as something overt and in your face but those days are long gone. Burr correctly surmises that white folk wait till the "coast is clear" before saying racist "s**t". I think this is so covert that white folk who do race surveys deliberately answer positively out of fear of being labelled racist (despite the survey being anonymous).

There is even a psychological reason for doing this
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-do-t ... 79d4edbb15

Most racists basically are reluctant to reveal their beliefs about other races except in the strict confines of close friends or family


That statement by Burr itself is racist. Yes people can be racist regarding their own race. Like I have seen others point out with similar things being said, take what you have just written and replace the word white with black, Hispanic, Muslim etc. and it would be considered highly racist.



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07 Sep 2019, 7:55 pm

If two people of different race love each other and decide to marry, have children, etc... I think that's great. If people choose to only love someone of their same color, I think it's unfortunate, but they should have the freedom to do it. I think if someone deliberately chooses a mate based on race with any sort of an agenda, it's racism. I don't see a difference in aborting more babies who are of dark skin color, or trying to make sure none of them are ever conceived again. Still sounds like eugenics to me...

There is no superior race, the world would be very boring if we lost the different hues and characteristics each race possesses. Each race has something important to add to the gene pool and I just read something on the BBC about how mixed race people with Leukemia were having difficulty finding stem cell donor matches. It is important to preserve each race.


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07 Sep 2019, 8:02 pm

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I doubt anyone who gets into an interracial relationship does it with some type of "manifesto" agenda :lol:


I said why don't you write out a manifesto or whatever. As in a clearly spelled out declaration of how you think things should be. Declaration being a synonym of the word manifesto.

Words often have more than one meaning or designation.

Where you never taught that in school?



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07 Sep 2019, 8:06 pm

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Like I have seen others point out with similar things being said, take what you have just written and replace the word white with black, Hispanic, Muslim etc. and it would be considered highly racist.

Except you know very well Ezra that making statements against the dominant majority (whites) can be construed as offensive (I am not arguing people have no right to be offended) but it isn't racist.

You can offend, threaten or intimidate individuals but you can't be racist toward a privileged community who are in charge. That's a fact you seem to ignore.



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07 Sep 2019, 8:14 pm

cyberdad wrote:
I doubt anyone who gets into an interracial relationship does it with some type of "manifesto" agenda :lol:

In case anybody has amnesia this happened within my lifetime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia

And some this happened in the last few years
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49571207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=funJ_K_II3Q

In medicine if you have a rash it means there is something happening beneath the surface...same applies here


In U.S., 87% Approve of Black-White Marriage, vs. 4% in 1958 according to a 2013 gallop poll.

You cherry pick certain instances and fringe elements to portray them as a majority. You and Kraichgauer and many others do so all the time.

That looks like an agenda to me.

But not one started by those who unwittingly carry it out.

Racism is never going away as long as there are those who harp on it constantly and thereby inflate it as much as possible.

(I'm waiting for you to tell me inflate only means filling something like a balloon or tire with air).



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07 Sep 2019, 8:18 pm

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I don't see a difference in aborting more babies who are of dark skin color,

I have never heard of this? does this happen in Puerto Rican communities? I have read that Mexicans and South Americans are very self-conscious about their complexion to the point of denying any African heritage and ex-communicating family who marry darker skinned individuals.

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each race has something important to add to the gene pool and I just read something on the BBC about how mixed race people with Leukemia were having difficulty finding stem cell donor matches. It is important to preserve each race.


The issue over bone marrow transplants and stem cell compatibility is to do with registries not getting enough mixed race donors which is a situation that will change as more mixed race donors come forward. The idea that interracial mixing should be avoided in case your child might get leukaemia sounds like something the users on the far right web site stormfront might post. They were apparently recently celebrating that caucasians have a gene that allows digestion of lactose missing in some east Asian populations by drinking buckets of milk. Not really a valid reason is it....