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31 May 2020, 3:00 pm

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It looks a bit like there are people protesting and there are people snapping the opportunity of the chaos to loot and demolish.
And the police seems more visible fighting the former not the latter... Maybe because chaos and destruction plays to their hands, diverts the attention from the original problem of police brutality, justifies using force against the protesters.

The police is a side in this conflict, not just order-keeper they should be.

There are people that are really mad and there are others that are using the opportunity of law and order disintegrating for personal gain. This is true now and it was true back during the 1960s civil unrest. What was also true then and now is that is that conservatives will emphasize the personal gain motive and progressives the anger motive. What is also true now and then is that conservatives will perceive the explanation of anger motivation as being excuse making by soft on crime snowflakes, and liberals will perceive the personal gain excuses made by racists racism and white privilege.

One must remember we are dealing with mostly NT’s here and the herd or mob mentality explanation can not be underestimated. When you combine that with free stuff with non consequences or anger motivation you get people doing things that they would never normally do.

I am old enough to remember the 60s and Rodney King riots and the same arguments being made. I feel I am living in the unmade riot sequel of the movie “Groundhog Day”. This is a sequel I did not voluntarily pay to see. Very frustrating and depressing.

I admit, I've never seen real riots. Massive demonstrations, yes, but they never turned into what I'm watching on the news.
I'm sure there is a lot of herd instinct and "us vs them" in it. A revolution, a tribe war, these feelings are probably intoxicating.
But I'm quite worried that police is a side in this conflict and keeping the protests peaceful is not to their gain.

Whether it’s a rioters or protest depend on yiur political party.
Democrats see people burning buildings, assaulting people, stealing from stores and calls them protesters

Everyone lose sees them for what they are and calls them rioterss.

Mean even cnn as the riots were breaking into their building to assault them and probably burn it down still didn’t call them rioters.
And the reporter sounded super afraid for his life.

Gun owners are angry and pissed but we we started burning down building and looting I guarantee you democrats wouldn’t call us protests. He’ll if we just gather peacefully and even pick up all our trash we still don’t get called protests be democrats.

Seems only the left can protest.

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31 May 2020, 3:02 pm

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You mean like their two black friends behind them also carrying rifles?
There’s plenty of other black people carrying guns to defend their or others businesses

After seeing footage of looting with the police busy pepper-spraying crowds, I can't blame those guys. It's all wrong that they need to do it but that's where you are.
From my far away observation point it looks like the police is doing the wrong thing and not doing the right thing.

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31 May 2020, 3:05 pm

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"Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said he is aware of unconfirmed reports that gangs of white supremacists are taking advantage of the anarchy unfolding in Minneapolis to create more chaos".
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/li ... blogHeader

I posted earlier that right wing militia are stalking rioters taking advantage of the maelstrom. The police/national guard are focusing on shirtless rioters with sticks and molotov cocktails and seem to missing the men in camouflage gear carrying loaded weapons. Charlottesville all over again.

It's good publicity for the alt-right setting fire to black housing projects to make it seem they are incapable of living in urban areas. My guess is they want future housing for poor blacks to be put further away from their precious white spaces.

Yeah these guys are so horrible protecting people’s businesses

I'm sure they won't be crying over black businesses going up in smoke....the rioters are helping them without realising

They protecting all businesses black or white, hard to tell buy owner of that store looks like from Middle East.
There’s two black guys with them. Stop making everything about racist.

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31 May 2020, 3:10 pm

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You mean like their two black friends behind them also carrying rifles?
There’s plenty of other black people carrying guns to defend their or others businesses

This is all happening in democrat run cities. They tell police to stand down. Democrats fear if they order the police to stop the riots they get unelected by the rioters.

I live in city connected to slightly bigger city. My city is republican run, the other democrat run. They stood by for 3 hours and watched as buildings were looted and set on fire. My city put cops out at every possible place of protest.

So yeah small business owners are on their own. Ever heard of Roth top Koreans?
Defending their business during law riots cause police refused to

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31 May 2020, 3:10 pm

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Stop making everything about racist.

In this case he's making racism about racism...

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31 May 2020, 3:21 pm

Just hear they killed a black cop. Will you all be outraged or that not as bad as a cop having a rioting woman?

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31 May 2020, 3:22 pm

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Stop making everything about racist.

In this case he's making racism about racism...

Seeing two white guys and assuming cause their white they must be racist. Is racism.
Racism is hating others based on their race. The sole reason he dislikes those guys are cause they’re white.

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31 May 2020, 3:25 pm

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I see you have a different idea for the train than what I was thinking. What are some ideas you have to export?

I just thought that if you were looking a trains,there are more than I could count across the street and a better way to smuggle looted goods than a car or a truck because police usually don't do stops on trains.Getting pulled over by police could get you suffocated these days you know,that's why were looting cause committing criminal acts is the best way to win the respect of law enforcement you know.

My thinking about the train idea was that if we were going to burn some stuff while looting, we may as well use a really big "match." That's why I mentioned asking Terry Nichols for help with loading the cargo. Having a hundred or so cars on a train loaded with diesel fuel, cow turds, and other flammable materials then have a hydrogen blimp secured with cables to each car would mean a really big fire to help with the looting and destruction.

That would make quick work of a Target but then there would no working TV set's to loot.

Targets may be a bit fragile, but it may be an effective way to get into a vault at a jewelry store or something if the heat from the blast doesn't weild the jewelry to the walls of the vault.

Not a bad idea,jewelry is easier to unload on the street then TV sets being sold out of a van in a bad neighborhood,and if the jewelry is real people won't think it's stolen.

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31 May 2020, 3:30 pm

If a white person kills a black cop, it’s just as bad as a black person killing a white cop.

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31 May 2020, 3:34 pm

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If a white person kills a black cop, it’s just as bad as a black person killing a white cop.

I dont know the protesters say only good cop is a dead cop.

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31 May 2020, 3:35 pm

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If a white person kills a black cop, it’s just as bad as a black person killing a white cop.

What's the body count so far on cops being killed? I haven't heard of any.

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31 May 2020, 3:37 pm

Do you think most people think like the idiots who are the violent protestors?

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31 May 2020, 3:39 pm

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Do you think most people think like the idiots who are the violent protestors?

Violent?
This is said long before they go violent. Peaceful protests Chant only good cop is dead cop.
What do you want
Dead cops when do we want it now

f**k the police.

Etc etc.

I think the riots are mostly the same people who protest. What else do you expect when you get hundred of people together then rile them up with said Talk.

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31 May 2020, 3:41 pm

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So, instead of being it about race, you think it's about political affiliation?
I wonder if Mr Chauvin and Mr Floyd voted for different parties. You think the media would catch it?

Police brutality towards defenseless people is an awful thing that should be stopped. Anger over Mr Floyd's death is justifiable, it was a sadistic murder. This anger does not justify demolition and looting. Demolition and looting in some places does not justify pepper spraying and shooting rubber bullets on people in other places.

Everybody trying to shift the blame to the other tribe is only making it all worse.

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31 May 2020, 3:44 pm

On the footages I saw they were chanting "I can't breathe", "black lives matter" and "George Floyd".

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31 May 2020, 3:47 pm

I work in the court system, and am pro-cop and anti-riot.

But we have to stop racist cops from killing people.

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