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25 Feb 2022, 9:11 pm

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Did I ever say I'm okay with people in other places in the world suffering? I wish I could help North Koreans and Uyghurs and Tibetans and many others but I'm also aware that being away from them, their history and other contexts, I may gravely misjudge the situation.

What makes this particular war important to me is the fact that it's affecting people I personally know and creates a situation where I can be the next. It's not a face on a journalist's photo for me. It's my neighbour, flesh and blood.


Does the Polish government plan to help Ukraine?


It is already helping within its current capability. Remember, Poland is a part of NATO, so we cannot send troops to Ukraine without sparking a global scale conflict. However, Poland sends in humanitarian aid, convoys with weapons and ammo and takes in refugees. All people who flee from Ukraine are taken in and taken care of. A lot of us engage in help directly, i.e. my co-worker has organised a passage from the border to Wroclaw for his friend's family. He is not alone, as a lot of people help refugees get to their families and friends living within our borders. People are gathering clothes, hygiene products and food and pass it to units coordinating aid both within our borders and in Ukraine. People sign-up to take Ukrainian refugees into their homes. A lot of us make donations which go directly to Ukrainian army budget, hopefully allowing it to resist for longer.

Usually I do not think fondly of my country, but today I am proud of Poles. Direct military action is off the table, but we are doing as much as we can.



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25 Feb 2022, 9:12 pm

Trump wanted us out of NATO.



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25 Feb 2022, 9:19 pm

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Trump wanted us out of NATO.


He wanted NATO to pull its weight, which it wasn't/isn't doing.
Perhaps they have woken up with a rude shock that they need to get their arse into gear and stop letting others do the hard lifting.

Germany is helping out, big time, btw.
It gave Ukraine 5,000 helmets. <vitriolic sarcasm>

Germany has turned into a pathetic piece of Sheiße under the turtle.



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25 Feb 2022, 9:28 pm

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A lot of us make donations which go directly to Ukrainian army budget, hopefully allowing it to resist for longer..


I'm not sure that's money well spent
https://greekreporter.com/2022/02/25/ru ... surrender/



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25 Feb 2022, 9:33 pm

It doesn’t mean the Ukrainians should just lie down and allow the Russians carte blanche.



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25 Feb 2022, 9:34 pm

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Supposedly Anonymous has hacked the Russians.
https://mobile.twitter.com/YourAnonTV/s ... 1567828992


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What did it say?

Go to Anon collective thread in PPR.


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25 Feb 2022, 9:38 pm

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It doesn’t mean the Ukrainians should just lie down and allow the Russians carte blanche.


They apparently haven't. A military expert back in December estimated it would take the Russians 30 min to reach Kiev. http://infobrics.org/post/34753/

It actually took the Russians 2 days.



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25 Feb 2022, 9:39 pm

I admire their heroism.



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25 Feb 2022, 10:08 pm

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Germany is helping out, big time, btw.
It gave Ukraine 5,000 helmets. <vitriolic sarcasm>\.


Japan is sending playstations



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25 Feb 2022, 11:36 pm

You might have some neo-Nazi elements in Ukraine….but the president is more the progressive type.



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25 Feb 2022, 11:46 pm

We have neo-nazis here in the US.They are all over , Europe, Canada, etc…


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25 Feb 2022, 11:47 pm

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You might have some neo-Nazi elements in Ukraine….but the president is more the progressive type.

He’s also Jewish.I’ve never heard of a Jewish neo-nazi.


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25 Feb 2022, 11:57 pm

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Germany is helping out, big time, btw.
It gave Ukraine 5,000 helmets. <vitriolic sarcasm>

Oooh. I didn't pick up on the joke right away. Very distinctive shape indeed.
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26 Feb 2022, 12:58 am

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cyberdad wrote:
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Did I ever say I'm okay with people in other places in the world suffering? I wish I could help North Koreans and Uyghurs and Tibetans and many others but I'm also aware that being away from them, their history and other contexts, I may gravely misjudge the situation.

What makes this particular war important to me is the fact that it's affecting people I personally know and creates a situation where I can be the next. It's not a face on a journalist's photo for me. It's my neighbour, flesh and blood.


Does the Polish government plan to help Ukraine?


Is NATO going to wake up to itself and start spending more on the military, as Trump requested?
Time for NATO to pull its weight, as Trump said.
But then, if Trump said something, it must be wrong.
Ignore what I just said. <satire> 8)


Trump had been using all that criticism of NATO to end the alliance - - as Putin wanted. Trump never wanted the alliance to survive; just to dissolve for Russia's advantage.
By the way, we all should remember how Trump henchman Manafort had been Putin's American fixer for Russia in Ukraine. Trump had been a pawn in Putin's game all along. Conservatives need to own up to the fact that they had been played by Russia.


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26 Feb 2022, 1:32 am

Suddenly feminist voices are ‘t heard anymore in Ukraine :lol:

https://inews.co.uk/news/ukrainian-men- ... 483245/amp

Where’s the Femen now?



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26 Feb 2022, 1:36 am

The dying government is throwing people under the bus.

There's hope that it will be over soon as the fighting is on the streets of the capital now according to western press.