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18 Oct 2019, 7:11 am

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Unfreakingbelievable. I have no idea what should be done in Syria, but my guess is that it should be the opposite of whatever the freaking pathological liars of the Left want done.


ABC News Broadcasts Fake Syria Bombing Video That's Actually From a Kentucky Military Show in 2017

ABC News aired a video on Sunday that host Tom Llamas said depicted a Turkish attack in northern Syria against Kurdish civilians. Turkey is indeed pushing into Syria and slaughtering Kurds along the way, but the video ABC News played last night is from a military gun demonstration in Kentucky that was published to YouTube in 2017.


https://gizmodo.com/abc-news-broadcasts ... 1839028685


ABC apologizes for their inadvertent error. They've got new reporting this time from the crack team of journalists — and you know you it's true because they are professionals who are experts.


ABC News Airs Authentic Footage Of 164-Foot-Tall Godzilla Rampaging Through Syria

NEW YORK, NY—ABC News has been praised as a bastion of journalistic integrity and in-depth reporting after being the first ones to air authentic footage of a 164-foot-tall lizard monster rampaging through Syria.

The footage, dubbed "Slaughter in Syria," shows the monster, named "Gojira" or "Godzilla" by people screaming in the video, rising from the ocean to attack coastal cities throughout the region. Desperate locals try to fend off the monster with depth charges, a huge electric fence, tanks, and fighter jets. But mostly it doesn't work and they just scream a lot.

Some experts believe we created the monster through too much nuclear testing and some drone strikes and feel we should study the monster. As these experts were opining on the matter in Syria, Godzilla appeared again and destroyed them with his atomic breath.

"Here we can see the harmful effects of Trump's actions in the region," said an anchor grimly. "May God have mercy on us all."


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I'm surprised they didn't go with the angle that it was a bioweapon unleashed by Turkey.



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18 Oct 2019, 11:23 am

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I just saw this

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I love it when the Democrats enact memes in real time.

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18 Oct 2019, 3:55 pm

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I just saw this

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I love it when the Democrats enact memes in real time.

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The photo shopping skills on the guy who did the cat's expression are spot on , he's a genius :lol:


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18 Oct 2019, 4:14 pm

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Nancy Pelosi kicking butt and taking names. She's made this photo part of the background on her Twitter page:

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The scumbag who is against universal healthcare, refuses to impeach war criminal Bush and who is happy to give Trump billions to spend on weapons? :roll:


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18 Oct 2019, 6:24 pm

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The photo shopping skills on the guy who did the cat's expression are spot on , he's a genius :lol:

Funny how the pro-Dem meme had to photoshop out most of the table in order to make it look like she was in his face, instead of 20 feet away. Ah well, all's fair in memes and war.


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18 Oct 2019, 6:43 pm

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The photo shopping skills on the guy who did the cat's expression are spot on , he's a genius :lol:

Funny how the pro-Dem meme had to photoshop out most of the table in order to make it look like she was in his face, instead of 20 feet away. Ah well, all's fair in memes and war.


The first photo doesn't look twenty feet across to me.


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18 Oct 2019, 9:08 pm

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Nancy Pelosi kicking butt and taking names. She's made this photo part of the background on her Twitter page:

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From what I've read she lost her cool and then stormed out of the meeting. Imagine of the roles were reversed. Then it would be all about how Trump had a meltdown, bullied Pelosi and then stormed out of the meeting, more concerned about his feelings than about the welfare of the Kurds.



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18 Oct 2019, 10:36 pm

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Nancy Pelosi kicking butt and taking names. She's made this photo part of the background on her Twitter page:

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From what I've read she lost her cool and then stormed out of the meeting. Imagine of the roles were reversed. Then it would be all about how Trump had a meltdown, bullied Pelosi and then stormed out of the meeting, more concerned about his feelings than about the welfare of the Kurds.


Learned from where? Trump? As if that's a legitimate source. No, there was one hysterical woman in that room, and it was Trump.


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19 Oct 2019, 12:04 am

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Nancy Pelosi kicking butt and taking names. She's made this photo part of the background on her Twitter page:

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From what I've read she lost her cool and then stormed out of the meeting. Imagine of the roles were reversed. Then it would be all about how Trump had a meltdown, bullied Pelosi and then stormed out of the meeting, more concerned about his feelings than about the welfare of the Kurds.


Learned from where? Trump? As if that's a legitimate source. No, there was one hysterical woman in that room, and it was Trump.


You should already know what sources I refer to; Reuters, AP, NPR, KIRO. I'm assuming you got CNN's highly partisan spin.



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19 Oct 2019, 2:05 am

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Learned from where? Trump? As if that's a legitimate source. No, there was one hysterical woman in that room, and it was Trump.


No we must listen to every utterance from dear leader :lol:



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19 Oct 2019, 3:27 am

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Nancy Pelosi kicking butt and taking names. She's made this photo part of the background on her Twitter page:

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From what I've read she lost her cool and then stormed out of the meeting. Imagine of the roles were reversed. Then it would be all about how Trump had a meltdown, bullied Pelosi and then stormed out of the meeting, more concerned about his feelings than about the welfare of the Kurds.


Learned from where? Trump? As if that's a legitimate source. No, there was one hysterical woman in that room, and it was Trump.


You should already know what sources I refer to; Reuters, AP, NPR, KIRO. I'm assuming you got CNN's highly partisan spin.


Seriously? I have my doubts about legitimate news sources (see, I called your sources legitimate) would state such things. The claims that it was Pelosi who flew into hysterics was purely claimed by Trump and his Republican yes men.


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19 Oct 2019, 12:10 pm

Mitt Romney goes after Trump for his weakness here. He gave the Kurds no warning of his impending withdrawal from Syria, but apparently the Turks did have warning because they were able to start bombing within hours. Trump gave the Kurds no time to withdrawal:



Cenk also notes that there is a drive to depict the Turks as if they're our enemies, but that's not productive either. They have the 2nd largest army in NATO, and really do have a terrorism problem from the PKK (a Kurdish terrorist group in Turkey). He cautions the media against such reflexive views against Turkey in response to Trump. We need to have a better strategy, rather than favoring one side over the other and taking such abrupt and irrational actions.

What looks like prompted Trump's withdrawal action, was Erdogan saying they were coming in no matter what and would even shoot American troops if they were in the way; the Defense Secretary then abruptly withdrew. This makes Trump a paper tiger.

And no, Trump, the Kurds are not happy.


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19 Oct 2019, 12:28 pm

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Mitt Romney goes after Trump for his weakness here. He gave the Kurds no warning of his impending withdrawal from Syria, but apparently the Turks did have warning because they were able to start bombing within hours. Trump gave the Kurds no time to withdrawal:

Just looking at the news I see a January 2019 article …

"US official says withdrawal from Syria has begun".
https://www.apnews.com/89288a2b8f274eb7897733078960df56

So, the Kurds probably had a 1 year warning.

That seems reasonable.


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19 Oct 2019, 12:59 pm

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Mitt Romney goes after Trump for his weakness here. He gave the Kurds no warning of his impending withdrawal from Syria, but apparently the Turks did have warning because they were able to start bombing within hours. Trump gave the Kurds no time to withdrawal:

Just looking at the news I see a January 2019 article …

"US official says withdrawal from Syria has begun".
https://www.apnews.com/89288a2b8f274eb7897733078960df56

So, the Kurds probably had a 1 year warning.

That seems reasonable.


I recommend everyone read the AP link LNH provided. They will have an opportunity to see all the conflicting signals we sent, such that the Kurds could not possibly have known when the withdrawal was to be completed. Apparently, however, the Turks knew, because they could begin operations within hours of our withdrawal, meaning something must have changed right before our withdrawal.

This is consistent with what we see coming out now.


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19 Oct 2019, 2:37 pm

Trump has played a blinder whether he meant it or not. He's made the Kurds reconcile with the Syrian government :)


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19 Oct 2019, 4:25 pm

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Trump has played a blinder whether he meant it or not. He's made the Kurds reconcile with the Syrian government :)


I seriously doubt Trump has that much intellect or imagination for that kind of strategic thinking.


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