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19 Oct 2019, 9:46 pm
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
What would you suggest? That's a rhetorical question, btw. I know what you would suggest and it would go something like this: go into Persephone's neighborhood and replace every other homeowner with a poor family of color. .
No I'm not saying that. But if a black person does move into a white neighborhood or white school it hopefully doesn't trigger white flight (a proven phenomenon).
We (ironically) have the opposite scenario in Australia where wealthy Asian families move into upper-middle class neighbors triggering a flight of older retired whites to the countryside resulting in exclusively Asian neighbourhoods n the wealthiest suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney. The result is younger white couples are priced out of the housing market and are forced into white dominated outer suburbs.
Same with schools...Asian kids flood into high performing private schools resulting in aforementioned white flight with parents pulling their kids into less academic performing schools that emphasise sport or extracurricular activities that Asian parents don't want to spend money on.
But the result is ironically the same as in the US....segregated neighborhoods and schools (but the reasons are reversed)
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journa ... 018/3.html
I love Asians, I wish we had more in our area. Where Asians are, the schools are awesome. I don't see the problem with that. If someone possesses something I admire, like drive and intellectual performance, I'll hitch my star to that wagon any day, with no shame. Australians don't seem too smart in that respect...
I cannot speak to inner cities, I would never live in a city, simply because I like trees, birds, land, open spaces and fresh air. The only thing that would drive me out of my neighborhood would be crime, loudness and filth. If you bring order, propriety and cleanliness, I don't care what color you are. Nobody has the right to say to another that because they enjoy order, they are bigots. As I said before, my granddaughter's school has plenty blacks. Perhaps more blacks and hispanics than whites... She loves her school, doesn't wish to be anywhere else. Kids don't have the problems with color that adults do and I take my cues from her, if she's happy and safe, I'm satisfied. If she get's beaten up, we're moving her. Behavior is my gage, not color. She could be beaten up by a white kid and I'd still move her.
In your part of the country. But have you considered how the rest of America feels about Trump?
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19 Oct 2019, 10:58 pm
Persephone29 wrote:
I love Asians, I wish we had more in our area. Where Asians are, the schools are awesome. I don't see the problem with that. If someone possesses something I admire, like drive and intellectual performance, I'll hitch my star to that wagon any day, with no shame. Australians don't seem too smart in that respect...r.
I think a lot of Australians do admire hard work and drive in migrants but they find the character and quality of their neighbourhoods change when entire street is made up (like my street) of people who don't speak much English, smile or say hello, don't volunteer at all in the local community. This isn't so much racism as a perception that community isn't as liveable as it used to be. My daughter has close friends who are Asian at school but their parents are not the type to be able to interact which is a great pity as their kids seem nice.
19 Oct 2019, 11:55 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
What would you suggest? That's a rhetorical question, btw. I know what you would suggest and it would go something like this: go into Persephone's neighborhood and replace every other homeowner with a poor family of color. .
No I'm not saying that. But if a black person does move into a white neighborhood or white school it hopefully doesn't trigger white flight (a proven phenomenon).
We (ironically) have the opposite scenario in Australia where wealthy Asian families move into upper-middle class neighbors triggering a flight of older retired whites to the countryside resulting in exclusively Asian neighbourhoods n the wealthiest suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney. The result is younger white couples are priced out of the housing market and are forced into white dominated outer suburbs.
Same with schools...Asian kids flood into high performing private schools resulting in aforementioned white flight with parents pulling their kids into less academic performing schools that emphasise sport or extracurricular activities that Asian parents don't want to spend money on.
But the result is ironically the same as in the US....segregated neighborhoods and schools (but the reasons are reversed)
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journa ... 018/3.html
I love Asians, I wish we had more in our area. Where Asians are, the schools are awesome. I don't see the problem with that. If someone possesses something I admire, like drive and intellectual performance, I'll hitch my star to that wagon any day, with no shame. Australians don't seem too smart in that respect...
I cannot speak to inner cities, I would never live in a city, simply because I like trees, birds, land, open spaces and fresh air. The only thing that would drive me out of my neighborhood would be crime, loudness and filth. If you bring order, propriety and cleanliness, I don't care what color you are. Nobody has the right to say to another that because they enjoy order, they are bigots. As I said before, my granddaughter's school has plenty blacks. Perhaps more blacks and hispanics than whites... She loves her school, doesn't wish to be anywhere else. Kids don't have the problems with color that adults do and I take my cues from her, if she's happy and safe, I'm satisfied. If she get's beaten up, we're moving her. Behavior is my gage, not color. She could be beaten up by a white kid and I'd still move her.
In your part of the country. But have you considered how the rest of America feels about Trump?
People come from all over the country to attend these events, it's not a locals only. Bike Week is even bigger... Everywhere there is support for Trump... Democrats still have their strongholds, but these are not the same Democrats of JFK's era. What passes for 'democracy' these days is not the same and people don't necessarily like what it has begun to stand for.
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20 Oct 2019, 11:13 am
EzraS wrote:
MaxE wrote:
I'm not a Trump fan.
It's plain sad how often I see someone having to write that.
Not everybody can be a Trump fan. Some of us aren't Katy Perry fans. Some are even not Kanye West fans. We all have our likes dislikes. Deal with it.
20 Oct 2019, 2:44 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
What would you suggest? That's a rhetorical question, btw. I know what you would suggest and it would go something like this: go into Persephone's neighborhood and replace every other homeowner with a poor family of color. .
No I'm not saying that. But if a black person does move into a white neighborhood or white school it hopefully doesn't trigger white flight (a proven phenomenon).
We (ironically) have the opposite scenario in Australia where wealthy Asian families move into upper-middle class neighbors triggering a flight of older retired whites to the countryside resulting in exclusively Asian neighbourhoods n the wealthiest suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney. The result is younger white couples are priced out of the housing market and are forced into white dominated outer suburbs.
Same with schools...Asian kids flood into high performing private schools resulting in aforementioned white flight with parents pulling their kids into less academic performing schools that emphasise sport or extracurricular activities that Asian parents don't want to spend money on.
But the result is ironically the same as in the US....segregated neighborhoods and schools (but the reasons are reversed)
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journa ... 018/3.html
I love Asians, I wish we had more in our area. Where Asians are, the schools are awesome. I don't see the problem with that. If someone possesses something I admire, like drive and intellectual performance, I'll hitch my star to that wagon any day, with no shame. Australians don't seem too smart in that respect...
I cannot speak to inner cities, I would never live in a city, simply because I like trees, birds, land, open spaces and fresh air. The only thing that would drive me out of my neighborhood would be crime, loudness and filth. If you bring order, propriety and cleanliness, I don't care what color you are. Nobody has the right to say to another that because they enjoy order, they are bigots. As I said before, my granddaughter's school has plenty blacks. Perhaps more blacks and hispanics than whites... She loves her school, doesn't wish to be anywhere else. Kids don't have the problems with color that adults do and I take my cues from her, if she's happy and safe, I'm satisfied. If she get's beaten up, we're moving her. Behavior is my gage, not color. She could be beaten up by a white kid and I'd still move her.
In your part of the country. But have you considered how the rest of America feels about Trump?
Right back at you. Do you care how people outside of the coasts and liberal cities feel about trump?
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20 Oct 2019, 3:46 pm
I don’t like Trump because he gets nasty with people. He’s even gotten nasty with people who were/are his supporters. He constantly name-calls in his tweets—like a high school bully.
He has no loyalty. He uses people to fulfill his present purposes. He doesn’t appreciate people when they are no longer of use to him. Some of the people whom he threw under the bus are hard-core conservatives.
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20 Oct 2019, 7:36 pm
sly279 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
What would you suggest? That's a rhetorical question, btw. I know what you would suggest and it would go something like this: go into Persephone's neighborhood and replace every other homeowner with a poor family of color. .
No I'm not saying that. But if a black person does move into a white neighborhood or white school it hopefully doesn't trigger white flight (a proven phenomenon).
We (ironically) have the opposite scenario in Australia where wealthy Asian families move into upper-middle class neighbors triggering a flight of older retired whites to the countryside resulting in exclusively Asian neighbourhoods n the wealthiest suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney. The result is younger white couples are priced out of the housing market and are forced into white dominated outer suburbs.
Same with schools...Asian kids flood into high performing private schools resulting in aforementioned white flight with parents pulling their kids into less academic performing schools that emphasise sport or extracurricular activities that Asian parents don't want to spend money on.
But the result is ironically the same as in the US....segregated neighborhoods and schools (but the reasons are reversed)
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journa ... 018/3.html
I love Asians, I wish we had more in our area. Where Asians are, the schools are awesome. I don't see the problem with that. If someone possesses something I admire, like drive and intellectual performance, I'll hitch my star to that wagon any day, with no shame. Australians don't seem too smart in that respect...
I cannot speak to inner cities, I would never live in a city, simply because I like trees, birds, land, open spaces and fresh air. The only thing that would drive me out of my neighborhood would be crime, loudness and filth. If you bring order, propriety and cleanliness, I don't care what color you are. Nobody has the right to say to another that because they enjoy order, they are bigots. As I said before, my granddaughter's school has plenty blacks. Perhaps more blacks and hispanics than whites... She loves her school, doesn't wish to be anywhere else. Kids don't have the problems with color that adults do and I take my cues from her, if she's happy and safe, I'm satisfied. If she get's beaten up, we're moving her. Behavior is my gage, not color. She could be beaten up by a white kid and I'd still move her.
In your part of the country. But have you considered how the rest of America feels about Trump?
Right back at you. Do you care how people outside of the coasts and liberal cities feel about trump?
Sure, and I wish they'd at least support a mainstream Republican, rather than a scatter brained, thin skinned, narcissistic, strongman wannabe.
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20 Oct 2019, 7:38 pm
Persephone29 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
What would you suggest? That's a rhetorical question, btw. I know what you would suggest and it would go something like this: go into Persephone's neighborhood and replace every other homeowner with a poor family of color. .
No I'm not saying that. But if a black person does move into a white neighborhood or white school it hopefully doesn't trigger white flight (a proven phenomenon).
We (ironically) have the opposite scenario in Australia where wealthy Asian families move into upper-middle class neighbors triggering a flight of older retired whites to the countryside resulting in exclusively Asian neighbourhoods n the wealthiest suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney. The result is younger white couples are priced out of the housing market and are forced into white dominated outer suburbs.
Same with schools...Asian kids flood into high performing private schools resulting in aforementioned white flight with parents pulling their kids into less academic performing schools that emphasise sport or extracurricular activities that Asian parents don't want to spend money on.
But the result is ironically the same as in the US....segregated neighborhoods and schools (but the reasons are reversed)
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journa ... 018/3.html
I love Asians, I wish we had more in our area. Where Asians are, the schools are awesome. I don't see the problem with that. If someone possesses something I admire, like drive and intellectual performance, I'll hitch my star to that wagon any day, with no shame. Australians don't seem too smart in that respect...
I cannot speak to inner cities, I would never live in a city, simply because I like trees, birds, land, open spaces and fresh air. The only thing that would drive me out of my neighborhood would be crime, loudness and filth. If you bring order, propriety and cleanliness, I don't care what color you are. Nobody has the right to say to another that because they enjoy order, they are bigots. As I said before, my granddaughter's school has plenty blacks. Perhaps more blacks and hispanics than whites... She loves her school, doesn't wish to be anywhere else. Kids don't have the problems with color that adults do and I take my cues from her, if she's happy and safe, I'm satisfied. If she get's beaten up, we're moving her. Behavior is my gage, not color. She could be beaten up by a white kid and I'd still move her.
In your part of the country. But have you considered how the rest of America feels about Trump?
People come from all over the country to attend these events, it's not a locals only. Bike Week is even bigger... Everywhere there is support for Trump... Democrats still have their strongholds, but these are not the same Democrats of JFK's era. What passes for 'democracy' these days is not the same and people don't necessarily like what it has begun to stand for.
I can tell you right now, while there are people from all over the country coming there, in many cases they hardly represent most people from where they hail from.
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20 Oct 2019, 7:44 pm
MaxE wrote:
I am also a Ravens fan but I don't expect them to win over the Seahawks tomorrow.
Well for once I was wrong.
20 Oct 2019, 7:48 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
All Trump has to do is lose those states he won in 2016 by less than 1 percentage point....for him to be meat. A goner.
Another scenario that is highly realistic although not often discussed. It's certainly possible Trump will not finish his first term, there are all sorts of reason given in the Liberal press for why that might happen, or for that matter it could be due to a health matter.
So the Democrats would be running against Mike Pence. Pence doesn't have any of Trump's negatives, in fact he it the Tea Party wet dream. Probably unbeatable.
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20 Oct 2019, 7:53 pm
MaxE wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
All Trump has to do is lose those states he won in 2016 by less than 1 percentage point....for him to be meat. A goner.
Another scenario that is highly realistic although not often discussed. It's certainly possible Trump will not finish his first term, there are all sorts of reason given in the Liberal press for why that might happen, or for that matter it could be due to a health matter.
So the Democrats would be running against Mike Pence. Pence doesn't have any of Trump's negatives, in fact he it the Tea Party wet dream. Probably unbeatable.
There's one thing Pence doesn't have: Trump's fanatical base who will support him till Hell freezes over.
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20 Oct 2019, 9:09 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
What would you suggest? That's a rhetorical question, btw. I know what you would suggest and it would go something like this: go into Persephone's neighborhood and replace every other homeowner with a poor family of color. .
No I'm not saying that. But if a black person does move into a white neighborhood or white school it hopefully doesn't trigger white flight (a proven phenomenon).
We (ironically) have the opposite scenario in Australia where wealthy Asian families move into upper-middle class neighbors triggering a flight of older retired whites to the countryside resulting in exclusively Asian neighbourhoods n the wealthiest suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney. The result is younger white couples are priced out of the housing market and are forced into white dominated outer suburbs.
Same with schools...Asian kids flood into high performing private schools resulting in aforementioned white flight with parents pulling their kids into less academic performing schools that emphasise sport or extracurricular activities that Asian parents don't want to spend money on.
But the result is ironically the same as in the US....segregated neighborhoods and schools (but the reasons are reversed)
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journa ... 018/3.html
I love Asians, I wish we had more in our area. Where Asians are, the schools are awesome. I don't see the problem with that. If someone possesses something I admire, like drive and intellectual performance, I'll hitch my star to that wagon any day, with no shame. Australians don't seem too smart in that respect...
I cannot speak to inner cities, I would never live in a city, simply because I like trees, birds, land, open spaces and fresh air. The only thing that would drive me out of my neighborhood would be crime, loudness and filth. If you bring order, propriety and cleanliness, I don't care what color you are. Nobody has the right to say to another that because they enjoy order, they are bigots. As I said before, my granddaughter's school has plenty blacks. Perhaps more blacks and hispanics than whites... She loves her school, doesn't wish to be anywhere else. Kids don't have the problems with color that adults do and I take my cues from her, if she's happy and safe, I'm satisfied. If she get's beaten up, we're moving her. Behavior is my gage, not color. She could be beaten up by a white kid and I'd still move her.
In your part of the country. But have you considered how the rest of America feels about Trump?
People come from all over the country to attend these events, it's not a locals only. Bike Week is even bigger... Everywhere there is support for Trump... Democrats still have their strongholds, but these are not the same Democrats of JFK's era. What passes for 'democracy' these days is not the same and people don't necessarily like what it has begun to stand for.
I can tell you right now, while there are people from all over the country coming there, in many cases they hardly represent most people from where they hail from.
This may be true, but no ANTIFA anywhere.
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20 Oct 2019, 9:14 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
MaxE wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
All Trump has to do is lose those states he won in 2016 by less than 1 percentage point....for him to be meat. A goner.
Another scenario that is highly realistic although not often discussed. It's certainly possible Trump will not finish his first term, there are all sorts of reason given in the Liberal press for why that might happen, or for that matter it could be due to a health matter.
So the Democrats would be running against Mike Pence. Pence doesn't have any of Trump's negatives, in fact he it the Tea Party wet dream. Probably unbeatable.
There's one thing Pence doesn't have: Trump's fanatical base who will support him till Hell freezes over.
I don't understand what constitutes fanatical in this case. I know what the word 'fanatic' means and the image it conjures. But, I voted for Trump without the first bumper sticker, no signs in my yard, no shirts, no hats, no political involvement whatsoever, just a vote and a sticker that said "I voted." I don't see Trump supporters bashing old ladies in the head. I don't know how you would tell. What does a Trump fanatic look like? Can you give me something I would recognize as fanatical, like Antifa. Because I can't tell...
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21 Oct 2019, 12:19 am
Persephone29 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
MaxE wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
All Trump has to do is lose those states he won in 2016 by less than 1 percentage point....for him to be meat. A goner.
Another scenario that is highly realistic although not often discussed. It's certainly possible Trump will not finish his first term, there are all sorts of reason given in the Liberal press for why that might happen, or for that matter it could be due to a health matter.
So the Democrats would be running against Mike Pence. Pence doesn't have any of Trump's negatives, in fact he it the Tea Party wet dream. Probably unbeatable.
There's one thing Pence doesn't have: Trump's fanatical base who will support him till Hell freezes over.
I don't understand what constitutes fanatical in this case. I know what the word 'fanatic' means and the image it conjures. But, I voted for Trump without the first bumper sticker, no signs in my yard, no shirts, no hats, no political involvement whatsoever, just a vote and a sticker that said "I voted." I don't see Trump supporters bashing old ladies in the head. I don't know how you would tell. What does a Trump fanatic look like? Can you give me something I would recognize as fanatical, like Antifa. Because I can't tell...
Then you're not the Trump voter I'm referring to. Have you ever seen how Trump supporters behave at his rallies?
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21 Oct 2019, 12:20 am
Persephone29 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
What would you suggest? That's a rhetorical question, btw. I know what you would suggest and it would go something like this: go into Persephone's neighborhood and replace every other homeowner with a poor family of color. .
No I'm not saying that. But if a black person does move into a white neighborhood or white school it hopefully doesn't trigger white flight (a proven phenomenon).
We (ironically) have the opposite scenario in Australia where wealthy Asian families move into upper-middle class neighbors triggering a flight of older retired whites to the countryside resulting in exclusively Asian neighbourhoods n the wealthiest suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney. The result is younger white couples are priced out of the housing market and are forced into white dominated outer suburbs.
Same with schools...Asian kids flood into high performing private schools resulting in aforementioned white flight with parents pulling their kids into less academic performing schools that emphasise sport or extracurricular activities that Asian parents don't want to spend money on.
But the result is ironically the same as in the US....segregated neighborhoods and schools (but the reasons are reversed)
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journa ... 018/3.html
I love Asians, I wish we had more in our area. Where Asians are, the schools are awesome. I don't see the problem with that. If someone possesses something I admire, like drive and intellectual performance, I'll hitch my star to that wagon any day, with no shame. Australians don't seem too smart in that respect...
I cannot speak to inner cities, I would never live in a city, simply because I like trees, birds, land, open spaces and fresh air. The only thing that would drive me out of my neighborhood would be crime, loudness and filth. If you bring order, propriety and cleanliness, I don't care what color you are. Nobody has the right to say to another that because they enjoy order, they are bigots. As I said before, my granddaughter's school has plenty blacks. Perhaps more blacks and hispanics than whites... She loves her school, doesn't wish to be anywhere else. Kids don't have the problems with color that adults do and I take my cues from her, if she's happy and safe, I'm satisfied. If she get's beaten up, we're moving her. Behavior is my gage, not color. She could be beaten up by a white kid and I'd still move her.
In your part of the country. But have you considered how the rest of America feels about Trump?
People come from all over the country to attend these events, it's not a locals only. Bike Week is even bigger... Everywhere there is support for Trump... Democrats still have their strongholds, but these are not the same Democrats of JFK's era. What passes for 'democracy' these days is not the same and people don't necessarily like what it has begun to stand for.
I can tell you right now, while there are people from all over the country coming there, in many cases they hardly represent most people from where they hail from.
This may be true, but no ANTIFA anywhere.
I wouldn't imagine Antifa being interested in a biker jamboree.
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21 Oct 2019, 12:54 am
Persephone29 wrote:
I don't know how you would tell. What does a Trump fanatic look like? Can you give me something I would recognize as fanatical, like Antifa. Because I can't tell...
Strange because Antifa haven't driven cars into groups young people or lynched black people on trees...
