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When the Shah of Persia was still in power in the 1970's many Persians used to come to Israel for medical treatment. When I was a student nurse I was training in cardiac surgery and I gave post operative care to a delightful young Persian guy who I spent many hours bathing, feeding and taking care of his most personal ablutions. The Persian/Iranian people are intelligent, kind, generous and I happen to know (she says tapping her index finger knowingly on her nose) that many of them love Israel and want peace.
This guy was very wealthy ( not something I revere particularly) and asked me to marry him, having somehow decided that he had fallen in love. I actually was in love with a Palestinian medical student at the time who I almost married. The Persian Prince of course went back home when he was well enough to do so. FYI I have given exactly the same treatment to patients from Gaza or Oom El Facham, as do all Israeli medical staff. Hospitals are great places for divesting ourselves of prejudice and just seeing a person and not an ethnicity or political or religious personna.

I am sure that the majority of countries in the Middle East want peace. They have been manipulated by self-seeking, exploiting external forces for decades. There are political, financial and religious entities who gain much from the conflicts. I have many Palestinian friends and students, they all just want peace and prosperity. I taught in Cisco, a high-tech company in Israel ( I stopped nursing and became an English teacher about 17 years ago) and there was a special ongoing collaboration between programmers from Gaza and programmers from Israel ( Cisco is an American company). It was quite exciting.The Palestinians I spoke to want an end to war so that they can progress and prosper. In private they will tell you that Hamas oppresses them and behaves like the Mafia. All the funds donated to Gaza for humanitarian relief go into Hamas' pockets or to build terrorist tunnels into Israel instead of building schools and an infrastructure that would help improve the quality of life .They would rather live in Israel and have the freedom to express themselves professionally as their families who live in Israel do.
These are things I have experienced personally that nobody who hates Israel would choose to believe. People want peace, tyrants and fanatics steal it from them.

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Thanks for your post! I've had many Iranian friends over the years and they are very cultured and western orientated. I am convinced the common people are held in ransom to a fanatical regime. The militant/religious political rhetoric emanating from Tehran is not representative of most Iranians and Trump's threat to flatten the country is only going to punish those who would actually be pro-west if given the chance.

It reminds me when I was in my 20s and sat around coffee shops having debates with people from all over the world (including Iranians and Palestinians) how much we are all alike. I honestly miss those days, I seem to be surrounded by homogenous thinkers where I live/work in Melbourne.

You are probably meeting Iranian city dwellers; who are more likely to travel. Sadly they are not representative of all.

The regime relies mostly on the rural people for popular support who are pieces of...<inserting a rude word>.

The regime wouldn’t have lasted that long if it doesn’t have a popular support from at least a large portion of population. The fanaticism and backwardness spread greatly in Iran and it’s getting worse every year; and I can assure you that they have achieved the bottom of social retardation- even Saudi Arabia is progressing socially more than them lately.

Yeah I agree with this. But couldn't you say the same for any country? many of the rural dwellers in middle America aren't exactly that much more evolved than the backward masses anywhere else. I just feel as I get older we make too many value judgements over which country deserves a second chance and which country (i.e. Iraq, Libya or Syria) gets punished because they support a nutjob authoritarian dictator.

I have taught the IELTS exam which is necessary to pass when emigrating to Australia. Iranians would have to come from a fairly wealthy and educated urban background in order to pass the immigration requirements. It might have been less stringent many years ago though but still. I agree that farmers and those of low socio-economic staus are more likely to have a herd mentality and perhaps be more easily bought with bribes by the Ayatollahs.

Or use a Hebrew to English translator.

Yep agreed, this aligns with boo's response

Well done! only it ends with "amen" which is also the root for artist or in hebrew "aman"❤

I'll prove whatever you want me to prove. I'm asking you what you are claiming I said that was false.

I'm not saying I don't understand your cowardice and bowing before your butchers. I just don't have any respect for you.

The region is tired of the US and Israel. They don't like Iran but they know the real threats.

This pretty much describes what’s going on in the USA right now to a T.

There are educated well travelled city dwellers, and then there are trump supporters with dramatically different lives & views.

45% of white college graduates voted for Trump
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2018/e ... al-results

But try getting them to explain themselves is tricky...they seem to be shy of TV cameras

Explain themselves? We've been over this before, Cyberdad. We are sick of the way things were. I don't want open borders, I do support legal immigration from anywhere though. I don't want catch and release, there are too many criminals who have been deported 2, 3, 4, 5 times only to come back again and kill someone. We have enough killings in the US when we KNOW who's in our country, we don't need anymore. My mother was a victim of an illegal immigrant who she was trying to help. I don't give two s**ts about DACA when our own kids, veterans, elderly are homeless, hungry. Live and let live... stop harassing a cake maker, you can go somewhere else. Stop forcing YOU on THEM... Can you understand that, I know it's a lot to take in?
Is that a decent start for you and the bald headed cure for autism to have an idea of why Trump was elected? There are people out there with a helluva lot more to worry about than Transgender story time at the library. You're on here flipping out over the latest Marvel movie and how a black individual was omitted and it's not true to the story line and in the same breath calling anyone who voted for Trump a dolt. It's the most ridiculous think in the world that a grown man is having a meltdown over Marvel.

Oh, I forgot about the other groups: Greedy well off people who are ever better off due to the trump administration’s policies (or dream to be but they’ll never be rich), annnnd racists.

Thanks for the reminder, it’s not just racists. It’s also other types of bigots and hateful people.