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31 May 2020, 4:08 pm

Looting Spreads, Philidelphia Center City Locked Down as Protest Fallout Continues

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Looting and violence spread in Philadelphia Sunday as the fallout of protests over the death of an unarmed black man at the hands of a white police officer in Minneapolis continued.

Mayor Jim Kenney's first order of business was locking down much of the Center City sector to prevent more damage.

Around 2:30 p.m., the city ordered all retail businesses immediately closed to better allow for the enforcement of a curfew. Amid multiple instances of looting, the city moved up the curfew to 6 p.m. instead of the prior 8 p.m.

Anyone who was out boarding up businesses or cleaning the city was told to return home by 5 p.m. The curfew was set to last through 6 a.m. Monday. During that time, only people doing essential work or seeking police or medical help were allowed to leave their homes.

In Port Richmond, people darted into and out of a Snipes store carrying armloads of clothes and shoes before police arrived. A similar scene played out at a Foot Locker as people stole boxes of shoes in the same section of the city.
In West Philadelphia, people broke the windshields of various police vehicles, setting one alight near the intersection of Market and N. 52nd streets.

As the citywide curfew from Saturday night lifted, some residents ventured outside, carrying brooms and trash bags as they cleaned up the damage.

“I thought, ‘This is my neighborhood, I have to clean up. This is the right thing to do,’” one woman told NBC10 as she knelt and stuffed loose papers into the white plastic bag in her hand.

Others people walked through the streets and simply surveyed the trash, clothes, shoes and boxes strewn on the ground and the graffiti that decorated buildings.

Still others continued to loot. At the Modell’s store on Chestnut Street, a police officer scared off some would-be thieves. When he left, they returned.


More journalists injured covering George Floyd protests
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The first time officers shot rubber bullets at MSNBC host Ali Velshi and his crew Saturday night in Minneapolis, he was willing to believe that the officials didn’t know they were press. The second time, Velshi said, they knew and shot anyway.

“We put our hands up and yelled, ‘We’re media!’” Velshi said. “They responded, ‘We don’t care!’ and they opened fire a second time.”

Velshi, who said he was hit in the leg by a rubber bullet, is just one of many journalists across the country who sustained injuries from police or protesters while covering the George Floyd protests this weekend. And this occurred after Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz promised that journalists would not be interfered with following the Friday arrest of a CNN crew on live television and other reports of violence against reporters from the city where Floyd died, including freelance photographer Linda Tirado, who said she is blind in her left eye after being shot at by police.

Dan Shelley, the executive director and chief operating officer of the Radio Television Digital News Association (RTDNA), said while all the attacks on journalists were “outrageous and unacceptable" that he was particularly upset about the Minneapolis incidents that happened after the Governor made his reassurances.

“They started deliberately attacking journalists who were clearly identifiable and identifying themselves as journalists,” Shelley said. “We’ve heard a number of instances of police officers, either through their words or actions, saying that they just didn’t care. To be a journalist in the Twin Cities last night, particularly in Minneapolis, if you were just arrested, you were lucky.”

Minneapolis Star Tribune reporter Chris Serres tweeted Sunday that he was twice ordered at gunpoint to hit the ground.

Serres wrote that he was, “Warned that if I moved “an inch” I’d be shot. This after being teargassed and hit in groin area by rubber bullet. Waiving a Star Tribune press badge made no difference.”

His Star Tribune colleague Ryan Faircloth’s car was also hit by what were “likely rubber bullets,” which shattered his window and left him with cuts on his arm and brow.

Los Angeles Times reporter Molly Hennessey-Fiske said in a video message on Twitter that she and about a dozen other press had identified themselves as such and that Minnesota State Patrol officers still “fired tear gun cannisters on us at point blank range.”

Hennessey-Fiske said she got hit in the leg. She said she asked the officers where they should go but they didn't give the reporters any direction.

“They just fired on us," she said.

It wasn’t just Minneapolis where reporters found themselves in harm’s way. Saturday there were journalist injuries reported in cities like New York, Chicago, Washington D.C., Pittsburgh, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, San Diego, Detroit and Denver. Although the situation is fluid and developing, the RTDNA has counted more than 60 incidents across the country in the past 48 hours in which reporters have been, “injured, assaulted or harassed by either protesters or police officers.”

In Chicago, Vice reporter Michael Adams had a similar interaction to Velshi and Hennessey-Fiske when police raided the gas station he and his crew were sheltering at and said they “didn’t care” that they were press.

“After shouting press multiple times and raising my press card in the air, I was thrown to the ground,” Adams wrote on Twitter. “Then another cop came up and peppered sprayed me in the face while I was being held down.”

Huffington Post reporter Christopher Mathais was arrested Saturday while covering protests in New York.

CNN commentator Keith Boykin was also arrested by the NYPD Saturday after he identified himself as press.

In Los Angeles, Lexis-Olivier Ray said an LAPD officer hit him in the stomach after he’d identified himself as a journalist “multiple times.”

In Washington D.C., Huffington Post reporter Philip Lewis tweeted that he was hit in the leg with rubber bullets.

Detroit Free Press news director Jim Schaefer said several of their journalists showing their media badges were pepper-sprayed by Detroit police.

And in Denver, 9NEWS reporter Jeremy Jojola tweeted that he got hit with, “Something fired by police” even though he was holding a camera and lights.

Sunday, he reflected that he’ll, “Never truly know if we were intentionally targeted or not. I’ll just say we were not doing anything wrong as we were in an area under curfew.”

Since the protests began, eight AP journalists have been hurt, though none seriously. Three have been hit by rubber bullets, one was punched, another was knocked down and others fell.

The acts of violence and deliberate harassment are further distressing to Shelley because it’s distracting from the real story.

“Journalists shouldn’t be the story,” Shelley said. “It is calamitous to see all of these journalists who are merely serving the public by covering these incidents of civil unrest being wantonly attacked...Journalists are representatives of the public and are there to serve the public and to tell the stories of the protesters and of the elected and other public officials trying to deal with the situation."

He added: “It is really harming the public at large, not just the journalist. It’s interfering with their ability to be eyewitnesses and chroniclers of what’s occurring in this country right now.


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31 May 2020, 4:10 pm

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I work in the court system, and am pro-cop and anti-riot.

But we have to stop racist cops from killing people.

And deep in my heart I'm very anti-system but lootings and demolition should stop right now if the Black Lives (actually, any lives) are to Matter.


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31 May 2020, 4:18 pm

I think I have an idea to curtail some of the violence going on. I just need the contact info for McDonald's and Dunkin Donuts corporate offices.

For McDonald's, the idea is to introduce an adult version of the Happy Meal: two all beef patties made from a specially sourced beef from cows fed only peyote, cannabis and ketamine; from Dunkin Donuts, a new donut flavor with a magic mushroom in the center and deep fried in CBD oil.



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31 May 2020, 4:32 pm

Police just arrested an Australian journalist in Minneapolis??
https://www.9news.com.au/national/usa-r ... 2d4a04cb39



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31 May 2020, 4:34 pm

Donald Trump blames media for riots.....
https://www.9news.com.au/world/george-f ... fe36b1af07

Apparently he can't or won't address police brutality



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31 May 2020, 4:35 pm

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Police just arrested an Australian journalist in Minneapolis??
https://www.9news.com.au/national/usa-r ... 2d4a04cb39


Wtf, does that exception only apply to members of the press who permanently reside in the city?



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31 May 2020, 4:36 pm

George Floyd protests spread to Europe - riots expected.....



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31 May 2020, 4:38 pm

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George Floyd protests spread to Europe - riots expected.....


Damn, I never would have expected things to go that far. What seems to have sparked things outside of the states?



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31 May 2020, 4:41 pm

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George Floyd protests spread to Europe - riots expected.....

Expected by whom?


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31 May 2020, 5:15 pm

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George Floyd protests spread to Europe - riots expected.....


You sometimes get a few outside the American Embassy in London (or somewhere central like Trafalgar Square) if something big happens in the U.S but I think they might be American expats



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31 May 2020, 5:19 pm

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George Floyd protests spread to Europe - riots expected.....


You sometimes get a few outside the American Embassy in London (or somewhere central like Trafalgar Square) if something big happens in the U.S but I think they might be American expats

A bit more than a few but quite peaceful:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-52868465

I don't expect riots in Europe because we lack two major components: African Americans (African Europeans are not the same) and US police.


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31 May 2020, 5:24 pm

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Biscuitman wrote:
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George Floyd protests spread to Europe - riots expected.....


You sometimes get a few outside the American Embassy in London (or somewhere central like Trafalgar Square) if something big happens in the U.S but I think they might be American expats

A bit more than a few but quite peaceful:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-52868465

I don't expect riots in Europe because we lack the two major components: African Americans (African Europeans are not the same) and US police.


I don't understand how you can expect to accomplish anything with a protest outside of the states unless your only goal is to have diplomatic immunity revoked for visiting US officials.



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31 May 2020, 5:41 pm

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I don't understand how you can expect to accomplish anything with a protest outside of the states unless your only goal is to have diplomatic immunity revoked for visiting US officials.

I wouldn't personally engage with this because of Lives that Matter I can do more for lives here by staying at home than for lives there by going out - don't forget the ongoing pandemics - but it's all about sending a message of support.


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31 May 2020, 5:45 pm

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This is all happening in democrat run cities. They tell police to stand down. Democrats fear if they order the police to stop the riots they get unelected by the rioters.

I live in city connected to slightly bigger city. My city is republican run, the other democrat run. They stood by for 3 hours and watched as buildings were looted and set on fire. My city put cops out at every possible place of protest.

So, instead of being it about race, you think it's about political affiliation?
I wonder if Mr Chauvin and Mr Floyd voted for different parties. You think the media would catch it?

Police brutality towards defenseless people is an awful thing that should be stopped. Anger over Mr Floyd's death is justifiable, it was a sadistic murder. This anger does not justify demolition and looting. Demolition and looting in some places does not justify pepper spraying and shooting rubber bullets on people in other places.

Everybody trying to shift the blame to the other tribe is only making it all worse.


Democrats call the rioters protesters and republicans and others call them rioters like they are.
That much is about politics.

Same way democrats say peaceful protests who happen to be armed are terrorist for gathering peacefully for few hours and leaving. But people burning buildings and assaulting people are just protesting.

Every time I e seen cops spray peiple it’s right after they get stuff thrown at them
All the police are trying to do is keep the protests where it’s att and the protesters see cops so they assault the cops who then respond with force.

Stand around wave signs. I’d never go get in the face of a police line and yell at the, then throw stuff at them.

Like why? Keep 5-10 feet away from the cops and they’d be no issues.
Why don’t women’s march turn into to riots? They don’t go get in the face of the police and assault them.


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31 May 2020, 5:48 pm

Why do some protests turn violent and others don't?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52869563

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Violent protests are less likely when police have a good relationship with the local community - but how they react to demonstrations on the day also matters, experts say.
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Experts highlight a series of police tactics that were seen as heavy-handed - including the firing of large amounts of tear gas at young protesters - as moves that galvanised protesters and made them more confrontational.
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Prof Stott argues that police forces that have invested in de-escalation training are more likely to avoid violence at protests. He points to protests that were able to stay peaceful in the US over the weekend - such as in Camden, New Jersey, where officers joined the residents in a march against racism.Image
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Public order experts say that for the police, being seen as legitimate and able to engage protesters in dialogue is key.

"Good policing tries to avoid an 'us' and 'them' mentality, and also tries to avoid the sense that police can act in ways that people see as illegitimate," says Prof Stott.
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Ultimately, however, riots can be a symptom of deep-seated tensions and complicated issues that don't have an easy solution.


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31 May 2020, 6:07 pm

Protest in my city went violent and police were never even around. They were told to stay away irs only after the rioters burned building and looted they acted two hours later.
Police are real chill here. There was huge outrage when crazy woman killed a very kind cop few years ago. Even Canadian police came to honor him.


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