Satellite data shows up climate forecasts
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Huge climate change has happened before, and was not necessarily a good thing.
But this time it is happening faster than previous times. Making it a greater problem than previous times.
It was warmer than now during the Holocene Climatic Optimum around 10,000 years ago. It enabled mankind to abandon a wandering subsistence lifestyle and settle down and start farming. It led to the establishment of civilizations.
Once mankind started turning to farming, they accidentally created the conditions that led to the development of hexaploid wheat via what is sometimes termed horizontal (or lateral) gene transfer in which the chromosomes from a related grass was transferred to a tetraploid wheat and resulted in a hexaploid wheat. That is the wheat that grew well in a much wider variety of climate conditions and enabled mankind to spread out around the world with much greater ease.
Whether or not you know it, most of what we have today was brought to us as a result of global warming.
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It's not even close.
During the earliest stages of a period known as the Younger Dryas, is thought that global temperatures fell by about 10 degrees Fahrenheit in about 10 to 15 years and after more than a thousand years of such bitterly cold temperatures, it ended with a rise of 15 degrees Fahrenheit about as fast.
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Younger Dryas warming was not global. It was tens of thousands of years ago and does not appear to have big impact on carbon dioxide.
Some global warming impacts are worse than in 100,000 years. Some global warming affects are worse than in millions of years and affect carbon dioxide levels.
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Some global warming impacts are worse than in 100,000 years. Some global warming affects are worse than in millions of years and affect carbon dioxide levels.
Of course it wasn't exactly the same in every continent. Some places felt it worse than others.
As for the rest, it reads like a lot of paranoia.
Temperatures were higher just a few thousand years ago. Sea levels were higher as well -- several feet higher, I think. 120,000 or so years ago was the Eemian, the previous warm period to this one and it was warmer than this one. Yet, when it ended, we entered another 100,000+ year period of major glaciation.
You do realize, don't you, that during this 100,000+ year period, the sea level was about 100 meters lower than now, don't you? So the salinity was the same? Not likely.
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Years ago when all the talk of Global Warming became common, I was as worried as everyone else.
But then I started wondering. If it was so hot now and getting hotter, was this really so hot in the history of Earth? I quickly learned that not only is it not that hot, it has hotter just a few thousand years ago. Not only that, I learned that we are currently in an ice age that has lasted about 2.6 million years.
In all those years of it being hotter, was life extinguished because the heat? The clear answer is that not only was life not extinguished, the warmer periods were generally quite a bit more productive than the cooler periods.
So what was everyone whining about? They were nothing more than Chicken Littles running around in a panic over little or nothing.
The thing they should be worried about is the inevitable cooling in the next period of glaciation in this ice age. Now that is something to worry about. But Chicken Littles are not rational beings.
Ask yourself what happens if the CO2 levels fall so low during a future period of glaciation that most plants can no longer survive and grow. The answer? The extinction of those species that depend on those plants for survival.
Global warming is a major benefit for mankind. If you want to see much of mankind die off, stick around for the next period of glaciation.
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"The global climate race is all but over — and China is winning"
Beijing’s decades-long effort to dominate the world’s clean energy economy is enabling it to woo tight business alliances with governments in Africa, Asia and Latin America — without insisting on the labor and environmental safeguards that the United States and European Union typically demand. Those countries, in turn, are taking China’s side in disputes with the U.S. and Europe about trade policies or efforts to make rich nations step up their international climate aid.
And as President-elect Donald Trump prepares to take office, promising to walk away from the Paris climate agreement, some diplomats at the U.N.-sponsored talks in Azerbaijan said they hope China will fill the void by championing steep cuts in greenhouse gas pollution. Trump has also pledged to shred Biden administration clean energy policies that were designed to weaken Chinese control of key technologies.
“We will need China’s continued leadership,” U.N. climate chief Simon Stiell said midway through the two-week COP29 summit that is expected to wrap up this weekend, in a speech that sought to anoint the country as a preeminent climate powerbroker. He urged Beijing to demonstrate to other nations that “stronger targets drive investment” — a message that, in a different context, might have served as a sales pitch for President Joe Biden’s big-spending clean energy policies.
China said it was ready to answer, without spelling out exactly how.
“China has contributed in addressing climate change,” Chinese Vice Minister of Ecology and Environment Zhao Yingmin said in an interview. “But in the future, China will do our best to contribute more.”
Its efforts so far have only strengthened China’s hand around the world — not necessarily in ways that will advance Washington’s and Brussels’ climate goals.
Already, China’s stranglehold over the minerals and technology underlying electric cars, batteries, solar panels and other clean-energy infrastructure has made it the top supplier for other countries looking to move their economies away from fossil fuels. That’s on top of controlling an overwhelming majority of minerals key to clean technology: 86 percent of battery, 81 percent of solar, 64 percent of wind and 69 percent of electrolyzer technologies are made in China, according to the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
This dominance has allowed China to cement its influence with developing nations, overwhelming the more meager efforts by the U.S. and Europe.
China also deploys far more renewable power at home than any other country, with twice as much capacity under construction as the rest of the world combined, even as it continues to burn heaps of coal.
These trends will only be accelerated by Trump’s anticipated retreat to an “America First” posture, and by the fiscal constraints suffocating European capitals, veterans of global climate diplomacy said. They predicted this will give China an advantage not only in climate policy but in broader economic and security disputes. And it could lead to global climate progress rolling out in a way that serves China’s goals, benefiting its clean-technology industries while allowing fossil fuels to stay dominant for decades to come.
“With the U.S. out, China will step up — but in a very different way,” said Jonathan Pershing, who was a State Department climate negotiator in the Obama and Biden administrations, during a recent call with reporters. He said China’s view on how to lead is more “parochial” than the United States’, which could lead to outcomes such as looser transparency around how countries lessen their carbon pollution.
Exiting the 2015 Paris climate agreement, as Trump has vowed to do for the second time, “would cede leadership to China, the very thing that he says we don’t want to do,” former Biden climate envoy John Kerry told Bloomberg last week. “He would diminish the ability of the world to be able to respond to this existential crisis.”
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There are very few times when I think that Trump is right. He is about climate, but not for the correct reasons.
There are reports that the current climate talks are falling apart. It seems that poorer nations demand that the wealthier nations give them more and more money. They whine that we aren't giving them a fair deal.
We shouldn't be giving them any money. We don't owe it to them and they have no right to expect it from us.
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"Earth Has Tilted 31.5 Inches. That Shouldn't Happen."
“Earth’s rotational pole actually changes a lot,” Ki-Weon Seo, a geophysicist at Seoul National University and study lead, says in a statement. “Our study shows that among climate-related causes, the redistribution of groundwater actually has the largest impact on the drift of the rotational pole.”
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"The world has been warming faster than expected. Scientists now think they know why"
They know the extraordinary heat was fueled by a number of factors, predominantly planet-heating pollution from burning fossil fuels and the natural climate pattern El Niño. But those alone did not explain the unusually rapid temperature rise.
Now a new study published Thursday in the journal Science says it has identified the missing part of the puzzle: clouds.
To be more specific, the rapid surge in warming was supercharged by a dearth of low-lying clouds over the oceans, according to the research — findings which may have alarming implications for future warming.
In simple terms, fewer bright, low clouds mean the planet “has darkened,” allowing it to absorb more sunlight, said Helge Goessling, a report author and climate physicist at the Alfred Wegener Institute in Germany.
This phenomenon is called “albedo” and refers to the ability of surfaces to reflect the sun’s energy back into space.
The Earth’s albedo has been declining since the 1970s, according to the report, due in part to the melting of light-colored snow and sea ice, exposing darker land and water which absorb more of the sun’s energy, heating up the planet.
Low clouds also feed into this effect as they reflect away sunlight.
The scientists scoured NASA satellite data, weather data and climate models and found the decline in low clouds reduced the planet’s albedo to record lows last year. Areas including parts of the North Atlantic Ocean experienced a particularly significant fall, the study found.
Last year fits into a decade-long decline of low cloud cover, Goessling told CNN.
What the study can’t yet explain for certain is why this is happening. “This is such a complex beast and so hard to disentangle,” Goessling said.
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