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20 Mar 2020, 10:47 pm

Free fishing = free food.People don’t even have to call in fake sick now.Fish all day.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/202 ... ense-fees/

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20 Mar 2020, 10:48 pm

beneficii wrote:

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Hospitals being strained is probably a result of everyone with a sniffle reporting to them.

Also due to all the panic and stress people are getting sick. High blood pressure and all that.

Probably a big increase in alcohol consumption and drug use.

Probably attempted suicide rates are going up. Along with actual suicides.

That isn't really a rational assessment of his post here.
I see nothing wrong with "Intelligent Consideration/Speculation", if that is what he is doing.

But we don't even have to speculate regarding his first point.
We actually *do* know that hospitals, and GPs, are being inundated by people who *don't* have the coronavirus.
All you have to do is watch the news and hear them, err, say it. :wink:

Remember, the herd instinct in neurotypicals is extremely strong.
They panic very easily.
Don't get trampled!

beneficii wrote:

Also, if you look at the part of the WSJ article that is visible without having to pay for it, it says specifically that "large hospitals have already exceeded the capacity of their intensive-care units." You're not going to the ICU for a sniffle.

Agreed,
But you are *still* going to clog up the system. :wink:

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20 Mar 2020, 10:49 pm

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Free fishing = free food.People don’t even have to call in fake sick now.Fish all day.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/202 ... ense-fees/

Resourceful farmers and country folks are much more safe than city folks, that's for sure.

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20 Mar 2020, 10:56 pm

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Call me Paul Atreides, aka Muad'Dib. :mrgreen:

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Are you saying that because you also have that type of nose?

The great Nostril-damus, he has common scents and nose everything.

OMG!
Dad jokes!
And from a female, whom I suspect isn't a father!..

I did enjoy it though,
I actually laughed.

But not to much humour, please.
That is my job.
And some of the denizens here want to keep things sombre.

We don't want to lift the spirits of people in these dark times tooo much. :wink:

Syd wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

Free fishing = free food.People don’t even have to call in fake sick now.Fish all day.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/202 ... ense-fees/

Resourceful farmers and country folks are much more safe than city folks, that's for sure.

Yep, just keep away from bats out there.

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20 Mar 2020, 10:59 pm

I want to start a separate thread discussing noses, and what personalities we've noticed having the same noses, but I suspect I'll be the only one posting.

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20 Mar 2020, 11:00 pm

Syd wrote:

Misslizard wrote:

Free fishing = free food.People don’t even have to call in fake sick now.Fish all day.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/202 ... ense-fees/

Resourceful farmers and country folks are much more safe than city folks, that's for sure.

We need to bring back our grandparents' wisdom and skills from the Great Depression

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20 Mar 2020, 11:07 pm

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FEMA issues ‘Major Disaster Declaration’ for New York over coronavirus

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The Trump administration has issued a Major Disaster Declaration for New York, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in the United States, officials said.

The emergency declaration Friday from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) unlocks access to a nationwide pot of $42 billion in vital aid from the Disaster Relief Fund, as the number of confirmed New York cases soar and critical medical supplies remain scarce, according to Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer.

“With no time to waste, the administration heeded the call and approved the nation’s first Major Disaster Declaration in response to the coronavirus, right here in New York,” Schumer said in a statement.

The declaration is typically ordered in the wake of natural disasters, like Hurricane Sandy or other major storms and flooding events.

Coronavirus killing more than a person an hour in NYC

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The coronavirus killed city residents at a rate of more than one per hour on Friday.

Between just 10 a.m. and 6 p.m., 14 people in New York City died from the virus, pushing the Big Apple’s total death toll to 43.

The toll had been 29 prior to Friday’s jump in deaths.

It was the first time that the city’s single-day toll had hit double digits.

And the city’s Health Commissioner, Dr. Oxiris Barbot, warned New Yorkers that double-digit daily deaths may well become the new normal, at least for a time.

“I wouldn’t be surprised if we get to a day when we have double-digits new people dying every day,” she said at a City Hall press conference Friday afternoon.

During that eight-hour period Friday the city’s positive cases also climbed from 5,151 to 5,683.

At 1,750 Brooklyn has the most COVID-19 cases followed by 1,514 in Queens, 1,402 in Manhattan, 736 in the Bronx, and 285 in Staten Island.

Authorities attribute at least part of the jump to increased testing capacity.

Pence Aide Tests Positive For Coronavirus; Contact Tracing Ongoing

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The White House disclosed its first case of the coronavirus on Friday night: a person who works in the office of Vice President Pence.

"Neither President Trump nor Vice President Pence had close contact with the individual," Pence spokeswoman Katie Miller said in a statement. She declined to give further details.

"Further contact tracing is being conducted in accordance with CDC guidelines," Miller said.

Initially I was puzzled as to why it seemed like NYC wasn't taking more extreme measures earlier given the number of people that could be affected by this virus. I was shocked to read, for example that public transportation was business as usual. I understand it a bit better now though as to why the number of cases is rising exponentially there. With millions of people basically living on top of each other in very small living spaces (relatively speaking), they have no food or supplies set aside.

Very densely populated cities like NYC are viewed by many as being "the greatest cities on earth". We're seeing now though that in times of crisis, they can end up being terrible places to be. There's been a global push for years, even by the United Nations to encourage people to move to dense urban areas and even touting the benefits of doing so. I think that's a very bad idea and we're seeing first hand around the world why that's the case.

Sure in a place like NYC there will be a lot of cases. Probably as many as 10,000 cases. But probably 95 to 97% will be mild. So there might be around 250 deaths. The more vulnerable people isolate themselves, the less deaths there will be.

It looks like the virus nearing its peak in the US right now.

The sooner the better, because then it will start tapering off.

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20 Mar 2020, 11:09 pm

Pepe wrote:

But not to much humour, please.
That is my job.
And some of the denizens here want to keep things sombre.

We don't want to lift the spirits of people in these dark times tooo much. :wink:

Some want tragedy.

Others want comedy.

Tragicomedy, the best of both worlds!

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20 Mar 2020, 11:14 pm

Australian government has increased social distance to 4 Sq metres. Non-essential domestic travel under review.

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20 Mar 2020, 11:25 pm

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Australian government has increased social distance to 4 Sq metres.

Gov't recommends long-distance relationships.

Or medium-distance relationships at the very least.

Basically, if you need anything, just yell loud enough for your wife to hear from the other side of the house.

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20 Mar 2020, 11:33 pm

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You're a hypocrite. You've been saying that you want only simple raw data that you can see with your eyes, and you're not interested in predictions or maybes. Heck, you even posted a picture of a crystal ball a few pages back to mock a fellow poster. And now, here you are, making stuff up without any proof.

Also, if you look at the part of the WSJ article that is visible without having to pay for it, it says specifically that "large hospitals have already exceeded the capacity of their intensive-care units." You're not going to the ICU for a sniffle.

The crystal ball was in relation to making exponential growth predictions that zillions of people are going to die from covid-19.

Now if you find a place where I have said that the virus will multiply at a highly exaggerated rate, based on a formula that requires a constant that does not exist, then you can call me a hypocrite.

ICU units are not very big, so it does not take much to get them to capacity.

And what I said is that in my opinion hospitals are getting a lot more people than usual, because everyone who has a sniffle ie mild cold or flu symptoms is going to the hospital to get checked for covid-19.

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20 Mar 2020, 11:33 pm

Syd wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

Australian government has increased social distance to 4 Sq metres.

And have catapults and slingshots to send things back and forth. Disinfect after each use.

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20 Mar 2020, 11:51 pm

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The crystal ball was in relation to making exponential growth predictions that zillions of people are going to die from covid-19.

The chart eikonabridge shared wasn't a prediction.

Here it is again:

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20 Mar 2020, 11:58 pm

This WSJ article says that NY state health officials expect coronavirus to peak in about a month and a half, so around the start of May. The part in question is not behind the paywall:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronaviru ... 1584719908

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21 Mar 2020, 12:00 am

Coronavirus deaths in the US are growing exponentially right now, as you can see on this log chart:

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21 Mar 2020, 12:07 am

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

The crystal ball was in relation to making exponential growth predictions that zillions of people are going to die from covid-19.

The chart eikonabridge shared wasn't a prediction.

Here it is again:

You know just maybe I was referring to the overall content of what he was saying.

Both you and elkonabridge strike me as doomsday alarmists. So I think that is what you are really bothered about. That I challenge immanent apocalypse predictions. "How dare you?" How dare I display such "chutzpah" as elkonabridge put it.

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