Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus

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No I just can’t tell where you stand, some of your post is denying it’s real while others are like it’s dangerous. For me it’s very real. And seeing others deny it pisses me off.

I come here for news, not denying conspiracy theories, I could get plenty of that from conservative coworkers on Facebook, there’s a reason I blocked them.

I'm going to ignore the insult.



Nope.
I was actually considering the possibility of the ratio of deaths to infected individuals being lower because healthy, formerly infected, but unidentified individuals weren't part of the statistics.

I.E. If these unrecognised/unidentified "survivors" weren't part of the data, the graph would be misleading.
Hence the need for a guestimate factor.
Is there one?

We need to bring back our grandparents' wisdom and skills from the Great Depression

The graph you asked about only showed the total number of deaths. It did not show a rate or a percentage.

I was looking at the recent research on the apparently positive effects of combined hydroxycholoquine ( traditionally used to treat malaria ), and antibiotic on coronavirus/covid19 duration and severity. Jimmy_m mentioned how the malarial parts of the world seem relatively unaffected, and although there may, as he and Syd among others have pointed out, be other factors also involved it does look intriguing.

Hydroxycholoquine is an anti-inflammatory and reduces fever ... like ibuprofen, neurofen and cortisone which French doctors recently warned everyone against taking if ill with covid19, saying that they appeared to make it harder to fight the virus because they suppress the immune system, reducing the number of protective T cells that the body produces, etc.

Hydroxycholoquine is in fact deliberately and now routinely used to suppress immune system activity in many people with autoimmune disorders.

It doesn't seem to make sense that hydroxycholoquine would be helpful against covid19, but apparently it is, when used in conjunction with an antibiotic which keeps the resultant secondary bacterial infections, ( which so often move in after viral illness ), in check/under control.

What hydroxycholoquine does, how it reduces the duration and severity of covid19, is to suppress or reduce the body's own defensive reactions to the virus ... ... which, to me, begs the question, what does the virus then go on to do in the body?

Does it "do" nothing? Is it, in the absence of the immune system reaction, actually almost totally inoffensive? In other words is the immune system overreacting/hysterical/making a mountain out of a molehill? Or does the virus proceed to wreak havoc in some invisible/undetected way over a longer period, having succeeded in passing the outer defences? ? ? ...

So far, the new coronavirus has led to more than 220,000 illnesses and more than 9,300 deaths worldwide. But that's nothing compared with the flu, also called influenza. In the U.S. alone, the flu has caused an estimated 36 million illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

That said, scientists have studied seasonal flu for decades. So, despite the danger of it, we know a lot about flu viruses and what to expect each season. In contrast, very little is known about the new coronavirus and the disease it causes, dubbed COVID-19, because it's so new. This means COVID-19 is something of a wild card in terms of how far it will spread and how many deaths it will cause. https://www.livescience.com/new-coronav ... h-flu.html

One problem I am wondering about is how many of those 80+ were in care homes? One person in a care home contracts it from a visitor or staff member or doctor visit or shopping trip, and then the virus spreads throughout the care facility.

That's a problem when it comes to 80+ seniors. A lot of them live in group homes or their children's homes. Probably not all that many live alone and isolated.

A guy my dad knows used to work in a senior care home. And he said he remembers a time when one resident became sick and many other residents caught it and died quickly.

Right now the way it is playing out is that the death rate has dropped going from March 18th to March 20th.

In looking at charts from past pandemics, they hit a sharp spike and then decrease fairly quickly. And that is the way covid-19 played out in China.

So there are several examples of what has actually happened vs prognostications of what might happen.

This what I have been saying from the start.
If anyone has a problem with this, please step outside so we can settle things like NTs.

The first vaccine trial has begun just 60 days after the genetic sequence of the virus was shared by China. This is an incredible achievement. To ensure clear evidence of which treatments are most effective, WHO and its partners are organizing a large international study, called the Solidarity Trial, in many countries to compare different treatments.