Emergence of a Deadly Coronavirus

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21 Mar 2020, 7:07 pm

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They cancelled nursing for us at my request. The nurse today left as per protocol as our state is worsening esp eldest kid's....
and they can't risk it without proper safety attire (gowns masks etc) .

The agency was to send normal nursing still just with the above gear but I don't feel comfortable with that unless we can secure a test first.

I don't want those ppl to somehow carry it and spread it to other vulnerable clients plus my refusal proved to her I am serious about needing a test.

She said she is contacting them to prioritize as this kid's health is too fragile to risk anything. He has already had bacterial pneumonia and hospitalized every time he had flu.

Even if its nothing but flu it can reach a critical stage as seen in the past

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Bless you for refusing their care. What can you do to get the test? I'm assuming you've tried everything, and I know you wouldn't want to overburden your local hospital. What if you call an ambulance for your eldest? I wish I could help. I'm so worried about all of you.

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21 Mar 2020, 7:10 pm

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This says that: Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year.

Note that most deaths occur during flu season. On average, flu season lasts about 13 weeks (3.25 months).

So that is as many as 646,000 deaths in 3 months.

We do not have herd immunity to help fight this virus which is spreading quickly because people are spreading it unknowingly because of their careless flippant behavior. The precautions are there to slow the spread so it doesn't overload our infrastructure and break down supply lines. If supply breaks down it only compounds the problem and now have much larger problems than covid-19. You end up with civil unrest which only spreads the virus further because again, we do not have herd immunity because it is not the flu. Things are going to get much worse before they get better, just wait till we see the ramification of spring breakers going home and spreading it further to places it may not have spread to without that boost. See where this is going?

Immunity from what? So far this thing has been just like the flu as far as how it affects people. The vast majority of people who get it have mild symptoms. For the most part the only people who it affects seriously are the same people who are seriously affected by a strain of influenza. If it spreads that means that the vast majority people will build up an immunity to it. Then again how many people are immune to other viruses that produce similar symptoms?

People may experience:
cough
fever
tiredness
difficulty breathing (severe cases)

How is that any different from the flu?

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21 Mar 2020, 7:11 pm

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For one thing the common flu doesn't kill healthy young medical workers
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/why- ... ?r=US&IR=T

Out of up to 646,000 deaths from the flu, how could you possibly know none of them were healthy young medical workers?

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21 Mar 2020, 7:16 pm

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So everything needs to be shut down until there is a covid-19 vaccination?

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21 Mar 2020, 7:19 pm

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So everything needs to be shut down until there is a covid-19 vaccination?

Are you advocating allowing the infrastructure to become overloaded so people start dying from perfectly preventable medical emergencies?

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21 Mar 2020, 7:59 pm

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So everything needs to be shut down until there is a covid-19 vaccination?

Are you advocating allowing the infrastructure to become overloaded so people start dying from perfectly preventable medical emergencies?

According to the CDC it can take up to 6 months to develop a vaccine.

What do you think the result will be if everything is shut down for that long?

Do you think deaths will not result from tens of millions being unemployed for that long?

Do you think tens of millions of people being unemployed will not overload the infrastructure?

From what I am looking at so far 40,000 people die in the United States for every 1% increase in unemployment.

And unemployment causes 45,000 suicides a year worldwide.

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21 Mar 2020, 8:12 pm

In the end, Florida will have more deaths than New York.

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21 Mar 2020, 8:29 pm

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In the end, Florida will have more deaths than New York.

So far New York has had 75 deaths from covid-19 since January.

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21 Mar 2020, 8:29 pm

EzraS wrote:

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So everything needs to be shut down until there is a covid-19 vaccination?

Are you advocating allowing the infrastructure to become overloaded so people start dying from perfectly preventable medical emergencies?

You should direct your questions to those with the power that can make a difference. All I can say is stay safe and don't lose hope. Humans are resilient.

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21 Mar 2020, 8:33 pm

blackicmenace wrote:

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So everything needs to be shut down until there is a covid-19 vaccination?

Are you advocating allowing the infrastructure to become overloaded so people start dying from perfectly preventable medical emergencies?

You should direct your questions to those with the power that can make a difference. All I can say is stay safe and don't lose hope. Humans are resilient.

You asked me if I was advocating allowing the infrastructure to become overloaded so people start dying from perfectly preventable medical emergencies.

I am asking you if you are advocating tens of millions being unemployed, which could cause tens of thousands of deaths, until a vaccine is found?

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21 Mar 2020, 8:38 pm

EzraS wrote:

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EzraS wrote:

blackicmenace wrote:

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So everything needs to be shut down until there is a covid-19 vaccination?

Are you advocating allowing the infrastructure to become overloaded so people start dying from perfectly preventable medical emergencies?

You should direct your questions to those with the power that can make a difference. All I can say is stay safe and don't lose hope. Humans are resilient.

I am going to listen to expert advice.

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21 Mar 2020, 8:43 pm

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Syd wrote:

In the end, Florida will have more deaths than New York.

So far New York has had 75 deaths from covid-19 since January.

New York will pass Washington. New York will lead for a long time. Florida will later overtake New York.

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21 Mar 2020, 8:50 pm

blackicmenace wrote:

EzraS wrote:

blackicmenace wrote:

EzraS wrote:

blackicmenace wrote:

EzraS wrote:

So everything needs to be shut down until there is a covid-19 vaccination?

Are you advocating allowing the infrastructure to become overloaded so people start dying from perfectly preventable medical emergencies?

You should direct your questions to those with the power that can make a difference. All I can say is stay safe and don't lose hope. Humans are resilient.

I am going to listen to expert advice.

Even if it leads to destruction.

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21 Mar 2020, 8:52 pm

Syd wrote:

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In the end, Florida will have more deaths than New York.

So far New York has had 75 deaths from covid-19 since January.

New York will pass Washington. New York will lead for a long time. Florida will later overtake New York.

Maybe, but at this point death rates are going down.

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21 Mar 2020, 8:54 pm

EzraS wrote:

blackicmenace wrote:

EzraS wrote:

blackicmenace wrote:

EzraS wrote:

blackicmenace wrote:

EzraS wrote:

So everything needs to be shut down until there is a covid-19 vaccination?

Are you advocating allowing the infrastructure to become overloaded so people start dying from perfectly preventable medical emergencies?

You should direct your questions to those with the power that can make a difference. All I can say is stay safe and don't lose hope. Humans are resilient.

I am going to listen to expert advice.

Even if it leads to destruction.

I thought you admired my faith? The Key word is listen. :wink:

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21 Mar 2020, 8:57 pm

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