16yo Thunberg: She’s the MVP Aspie of the world! IMO

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12 Dec 2019, 8:43 pm

I love Greta. I think she's a Sweet Pea.


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12 Dec 2019, 8:44 pm

Trump is jealous of Greta being Time's Person of the Year, so his campaign tweeted out this:

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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign ... xt-1477056


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12 Dec 2019, 9:23 pm

And to be clear I have nothing against Greta at all whatsoever. I'm sure she's a wonderful human being.
I cast my anger at those doing nothing more than using her to promote their own agenda irresponsibly.



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12 Dec 2019, 10:48 pm

+1 to CockneyRebel. I love Greta too and believe she deserves our support. Even from those who don't completely agree with her.

Imagine if Trump was really as slim as shown on that photoshopped Time cover! :lol:


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12 Dec 2019, 11:43 pm

beneficii wrote:
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However when it comes to a scientist who is not dependent upon those sources, they say "not a climate change scientist" and dismiss anything the scientist has to say.


This is a strange way to put a scientist who is either unaware or poorly aware of the research in the field of climatology or does not have education as a climatologist. "Not dependent upon these sources" is just such odd phrasing of that. Normally, we would just say that the person is unqualified.


Right but a child is their leading qualified spokesperson. Really in truth anyone who goes along with it is accepted by them regardless of qualifications. Likewise anyone who goes against it is rejected by them regardless of qualifications.



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13 Dec 2019, 12:45 am

EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
However when it comes to a scientist who is not dependent upon those sources, they say "not a climate change scientist" and dismiss anything the scientist has to say.


This is a strange way to put a scientist who is either unaware or poorly aware of the research in the field of climatology or does not have education as a climatologist. "Not dependent upon these sources" is just such odd phrasing of that. Normally, we would just say that the person is unqualified.


Right but a child is their leading qualified spokesperson. Really in truth anyone who goes along with it is accepted by them regardless of qualifications. Likewise anyone who goes against it is rejected by them regardless of qualifications.


Ironically the American public voted a petulant child to the office of POTUS
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... e-magazine

Thunberg's bravery and maturity means even putting Trump in the same category is absurd

Psychologists even think it's rude/unfair to children to compare trump to a child :lol: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... t-children



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13 Dec 2019, 1:56 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
However when it comes to a scientist who is not dependent upon those sources, they say "not a climate change scientist" and dismiss anything the scientist has to say.


This is a strange way to put a scientist who is either unaware or poorly aware of the research in the field of climatology or does not have education as a climatologist. "Not dependent upon these sources" is just such odd phrasing of that. Normally, we would just say that the person is unqualified.


Right but a child is their leading qualified spokesperson. Really in truth anyone who goes along with it is accepted by them regardless of qualifications. Likewise anyone who goes against it is rejected by them regardless of qualifications.


Ironically the American public voted a petulant child to the office of POTUS
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... e-magazine

Thunberg's bravery and maturity means even putting Trump in the same category is absurd

Psychologists even think it's rude/unfair to children to compare trump to a child :lol: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... t-children


Instead of addressing what I said, you deflect with the class clown routine again.



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13 Dec 2019, 2:18 am

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Trump criticizes Greta Thunberg after 'Person of the Year' win: 'Chill Greta, Chill!'
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President Trump criticized climate activist Greta Thunberg after the 16-year-old was named Time’s "Person of the Year," writing on Twitter that she need to “work on her Anger Management problem.”

“So ridiculous. Greta must work on her Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend! Chill Greta, Chill!” Trump tweeted Thursday morning, sharing another tweet from a user congratulating Thunberg on winning the title.

The president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., criticized Time on Wednesday, saying the publication chose to honor a teenager being used as a “marketing gimmick” instead of honoring anti-Democracy protesters in Hong Kong.


Greta Thunberg trolls Trump on Twitter after he bullies the teenage climate activist with autis
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Thunberg, in an apparent response to the president's tweet, changed her Twitter profile to describe herself as “a teenager working on her anger management problem. Currently chilling and watching a good old fashioned movie with a friend.”


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13 Dec 2019, 3:56 am

EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
However when it comes to a scientist who is not dependent upon those sources, they say "not a climate change scientist" and dismiss anything the scientist has to say.


This is a strange way to put a scientist who is either unaware or poorly aware of the research in the field of climatology or does not have education as a climatologist. "Not dependent upon these sources" is just such odd phrasing of that. Normally, we would just say that the person is unqualified.


Right but a child is their leading qualified spokesperson. Really in truth anyone who goes along with it is accepted by them regardless of qualifications. Likewise anyone who goes against it is rejected by them regardless of qualifications.


Ironically the American public voted a petulant child to the office of POTUS
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... e-magazine

Thunberg's bravery and maturity means even putting Trump in the same category is absurd

Psychologists even think it's rude/unfair to children to compare trump to a child :lol: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... t-children


Instead of addressing what I said, you deflect with the class clown routine again.


Try and exert a tiny bit of effort to read between the lines Ezra :roll:

Greta Thunberg is a child who can articulate the gravity of the climate crisis better than most adults. The fact that she and other school children are passionate about climate action is because they will inherit this mess. You may have heard of a global movement of climate strikes around the world - Greta is a symbolic magnet for young people to get involved in an issue that scientists have been trying to canvass governments about for years.

Not unlike Emma Gonzalez being a lighting rod for the anti-gun movement in the US following all the mass shootings....she and Greta and equally qualified to speak about guns and climate change....so simple even a child can understand



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13 Dec 2019, 4:41 am

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Try and exert a tiny bit of effort to read between the lines Ezra :roll:

Greta Thunberg is a child who can articulate the gravity of the climate crisis better than most adults. The fact that she and other school children are passionate about climate action is because they will inherit this mess. You may have heard of a global movement of climate strikes around the world - Greta is a symbolic magnet for young people to get involved in an issue that scientists have been trying to canvass governments about for years.

Not unlike Emma Gonzalez being a lighting rod for the anti-gun movement in the US following all the mass shootings....she and Greta and equally qualified to speak about guns and climate change....so simple even a child can understand


Good point. Greta Thunberg is a stakeholder, and represents a huge group of them in the climate change crisis. These young people are stakeholders we've been ignoring far too long in favor of the fossil fuel industry. That is Greta's role here.


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13 Dec 2019, 6:52 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
beneficii wrote:
EzraS wrote:
However when it comes to a scientist who is not dependent upon those sources, they say "not a climate change scientist" and dismiss anything the scientist has to say.


This is a strange way to put a scientist who is either unaware or poorly aware of the research in the field of climatology or does not have education as a climatologist. "Not dependent upon these sources" is just such odd phrasing of that. Normally, we would just say that the person is unqualified.


Right but a child is their leading qualified spokesperson. Really in truth anyone who goes along with it is accepted by them regardless of qualifications. Likewise anyone who goes against it is rejected by them regardless of qualifications.


Ironically the American public voted a petulant child to the office of POTUS
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... e-magazine

Thunberg's bravery and maturity means even putting Trump in the same category is absurd

Psychologists even think it's rude/unfair to children to compare trump to a child :lol: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... t-children


Instead of addressing what I said, you deflect with the class clown routine again.


Try and exert a tiny bit of effort to read between the lines Ezra :roll:

Greta Thunberg is a child who can articulate the gravity of the climate crisis better than most adults. The fact that she and other school children are passionate about climate action is because they will inherit this mess. You may have heard of a global movement of climate strikes around the world - Greta is a symbolic magnet for young people to get involved in an issue that scientists have been trying to canvass governments about for years.

Not unlike Emma Gonzalez being a lighting rod for the anti-gun movement in the US following all the mass shootings....she and Greta and equally qualified to speak about guns and climate change....so simple even a child can understand


Yet any scientist who disagrees with Greta is "unqualified" to challenge her claims made to the UN.

But you're right, Greta is being used as a tool to indoctrinate children. "How to be like Greta" "The Greta Effect". Whatever it takes to get that Marxist government going. The usual exploitation and clever underhandedness to achieve the agenda.



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13 Dec 2019, 7:26 am

Challenge Greta's credibility: "She's a passionate and super well read prodigy, she knows more than you!"

Challenge her data: "Are you a climate scientist? Exactly. Greta wins."

Be a climate scientist and challenge her data: "Stop attacking this sweet innocent child who just wants to save us all!"

Be Gretas mother. "My baby has the power to see CO2 with the naked eye. Donate to my PR-firm, and ignore my political history!"

Be Greta: "I stopped going to school when I was 8 years old. Let me tell you how the climate works. Also, have a crew flown over here because I insist on sailing because flying is bad!"

Ignore Greta: "stop trying to silence Greta!"


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13 Dec 2019, 8:09 am

Again, I find it scary how children are praised so highly as to be angelic, and adults are so readily dismissed. I realise kids can be adorable, but I doubt Greta has more experience than the average climate change scientist!

I mean, "Listen to her! She's a child, therefore nobody can question her or you're a bad bad person!". Yes, I agree people shouldn't belittle her since she's a child. Therefore, why the Hell would you make a child the spokesperson for this scientific argument if it's going to *force* people to agree with her and leave her alone because she's a child?


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13 Dec 2019, 8:31 am

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Again, I find it scary how children are praised so highly as to be angelic, and adults are so readily dismissed. I realise kids can be adorable, but I doubt Greta has more experience than the average climate change scientist!

I mean, "Listen to her! She's a child, therefore nobody can question her or you're a bad bad person!". Yes, I agree people shouldn't belittle her since she's a child. Therefore, why the Hell would you make a child the spokesperson for this scientific argument if it's going to *force* people to agree with her and leave her alone because she's a child?


She represents a group of stakeholders. Climate change will affect future generations more severely than now, if we don't reduce carbon emissions. Because of that, having voices like hers is absolutely necessary in this discussion, especially to act as a counterweight to the fossil fuel industry.

And she's not the only one, there is that lawsuit filed by young people that is still winding its way through the courts:

https://www.ourchildrenstrust.org/juliana-v-us

So looked at in that context, I think, what Greta is doing is actually really good, continuing to draw attention to an important issue that we really must not waste any time in responding to.


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13 Dec 2019, 8:58 am

smudge wrote:
Again, I find it scary how children are praised so highly as to be angelic, and adults are so readily dismissed. I realise kids can be adorable, but I doubt Greta has more experience than the average climate change scientist!

I mean, "Listen to her! She's a child, therefore nobody can question her or you're a bad bad person!". Yes, I agree people shouldn't belittle her since she's a child. Therefore, why the Hell would you make a child the spokesperson for this scientific argument if it's going to *force* people to agree with her and leave her alone because she's a child?


What's amusing to me is the number of pro-Greta types you used my age to belittle me over the years. Including the person who started this thread. And another who's currently posting in it, who recently used the "just a kid" line on me.



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13 Dec 2019, 9:08 am

EzraS wrote:
smudge wrote:
Again, I find it scary how children are praised so highly as to be angelic, and adults are so readily dismissed. I realise kids can be adorable, but I doubt Greta has more experience than the average climate change scientist!

I mean, "Listen to her! She's a child, therefore nobody can question her or you're a bad bad person!". Yes, I agree people shouldn't belittle her since she's a child. Therefore, why the Hell would you make a child the spokesperson for this scientific argument if it's going to *force* people to agree with her and leave her alone because she's a child?


What's amusing to me is the number of pro-Greta types you used my age to belittle me over the years. Including the person who started this thread. And another who's currently posting in it, who recently used the "just a kid" line on me.


I've never belittled you for your age, and barely spoken to you. What posts are you referring to?


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