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07 Jan 2021, 11:42 am

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his effects will be felt long after he is gone. he took the ship of state and ran it aground, and i will never run right again. he rode us hard and put us away wet.


You're not the only one thinking that. https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-throu ... 7934b1dac3


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07 Jan 2021, 11:57 am

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the free market could force the police to reform themselves with the governmental shove of forcing all police to pay for their own liability or malpractice insurance. the internal affairs apparatus would decide on each case of police brutality, whether or not the policeman's insurance would take the hit, they'd prolly settle on something like 3 strikes and you're out. policemen who made it to their pin-pulling party in one piece and without black mark, would get to recover their expenses in this regard, another incentive for them to behave themselves. :idea:
Seconded.

All those in favor, say 'Aye'.

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Property is less important than people.

I want a police that reflects that.

Free market wouldn't provide it.

Free market police would do what no police would do. Violent solutions to everything. Someone robs a citizen - state would be inclined to lock them up. Someone robs you & there's no law enforcement available/robs your client & you're sole law enforcement? People would be inclined to beat them up not keep them locked up somewhere & their needs met.


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07 Jan 2021, 11:59 am

Via Facebook, best explanation I've seen yet for what happened :lol:
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07 Jan 2021, 12:01 pm

auntblabby wrote:
the free market could force the police to reform themselves with the governmental shove of forcing all police to pay for their own liability or malpractice insurance. the internal affairs apparatus would decide on each case of police brutality, whether or not the policeman's insurance would take the hit, they'd prolly settle on something like 3 strikes and you're out. policemen who made it to their pin-pulling party in one piece and without black mark, would get to recover their expenses in this regard, another incentive for them to behave themselves. :idea:


As taxpayers, we already pay for those things. Markets don't work for public organizations because they do not operate in a market.



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07 Jan 2021, 12:16 pm

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I’m late to the party, but I’ll just say about all this, this is exactly why I get upset when people treat Trump and his followers like comedians. It was blatantly obvious even to someone as out of the loop as me that something just like this was going to happen, I really don’t have a clue why nobody was prepared.


They were going on about how violent leftists and democrats are and that they will destroy their cities. But whoever thought the right would also be capable of the same thing. Time to use their logic now and we need democracy, this is what happens when we let the right wing take over. They will destroy our capitals. The police don't know how to handle the right. We need to send in our own goose stomping troops to stop these terrorists.


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07 Jan 2021, 2:03 pm

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Via Facebook, best explanation I've seen yet for what happened :lol:
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07 Jan 2021, 2:05 pm

League_Girl wrote:
dragonsanddemons wrote:
I’m late to the party, but I’ll just say about all this, this is exactly why I get upset when people treat Trump and his followers like comedians. It was blatantly obvious even to someone as out of the loop as me that something just like this was going to happen, I really don’t have a clue why nobody was prepared.


They were going on about how violent leftists and democrats are and that they will destroy their cities. But whoever thought the right would also be capable of the same thing. Time to use their logic now and we need democracy, this is what happens when we let the right wing take over. They will destroy our capitals. The police don't know how to handle the right. We need to send in our own goose stomping troops to stop these terrorists.


The biggest evidence that it wasn't actually leftist protesters who occupied the Capitol yesterday is that the police put on their kid gloves and didn't massacre them.


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07 Jan 2021, 2:12 pm

June 2020 (George Floyd protests) and January 2021 (MAGA protests):

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Same location...



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07 Jan 2021, 2:33 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
dragonsanddemons wrote:
I’m late to the party, but I’ll just say about all this, this is exactly why I get upset when people treat Trump and his followers like comedians. It was blatantly obvious even to someone as out of the loop as me that something just like this was going to happen, I really don’t have a clue why nobody was prepared.


They were going on about how violent leftists and democrats are and that they will destroy their cities. But whoever thought the right would also be capable of the same thing. Time to use their logic now and we need democracy, this is what happens when we let the right wing take over. They will destroy our capitals. The police don't know how to handle the right. We need to send in our own goose stomping troops to stop these terrorists.


The biggest evidence that it wasn't actually leftist protesters who occupied the Capitol yesterday is that the police put on their kid gloves and didn't massacre them.

That clearly means those were just antifa posing as cops! Or cops corrupted by the deep state! Or Chinese sleeper agents! Or lizardmen!

The nice thing about conspiracy theories is that you can explain away anything that might discredit your worldview by convincing yourself it's all part of the Great Hoax.


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07 Jan 2021, 2:35 pm

GGPViper wrote:
June 2020 (George Floyd protests) and January 2021 (MAGA protests):

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Same location...


Man the left protests really were peaceful. :lol:

Until the goose stomping troops ruined it making it be chaotic. :x


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07 Jan 2021, 2:36 pm

roronoa79 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
dragonsanddemons wrote:
I’m late to the party, but I’ll just say about all this, this is exactly why I get upset when people treat Trump and his followers like comedians. It was blatantly obvious even to someone as out of the loop as me that something just like this was going to happen, I really don’t have a clue why nobody was prepared.


They were going on about how violent leftists and democrats are and that they will destroy their cities. But whoever thought the right would also be capable of the same thing. Time to use their logic now and we need democracy, this is what happens when we let the right wing take over. They will destroy our capitals. The police don't know how to handle the right. We need to send in our own goose stomping troops to stop these terrorists.


The biggest evidence that it wasn't actually leftist protesters who occupied the Capitol yesterday is that the police put on their kid gloves and didn't massacre them.

That clearly means those were just antifa posing as cops! Or cops corrupted by the deep state! Or Chinese sleeper agents! Or lizardmen!

The nice thing about conspiracy theories is that you can explain away anything that might discredit your worldview by convincing yourself it's all part of the Great Hoax.


I've noticed. We've had a few of those types of posters 'round here.


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07 Jan 2021, 2:43 pm

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Man the left protests really were peaceful. :lol:

Until the goose stomping troops ruined it making it be chaotic. :x

Seems to me like left protests turn deadly when the police are eager to use violence against them. And right protests turn deadly when the police are hesitant to use violence against them.

One exercises violence when violence is used against them.
The other exercises violence because they believe violence will not be used against them. Not to say that this paltry amount of police violence against them won't galvanize them and send them even further off the deep end.


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07 Jan 2021, 2:52 pm

roronoa79 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Man the left protests really were peaceful. :lol:

Until the goose stomping troops ruined it making it be chaotic. :x

Seems to me like left protests turn deadly when the police are eager to use violence against them. And right protests turn deadly when the police are hesitant to use violence against them.

One exercises violence when violence is used against them.
The other exercises violence because they believe violence will not be used against them. Not to say that this paltry amount of police violence against them won't galvanize them and send them even further off the deep end.



Yep, right wing privilege.


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07 Jan 2021, 2:54 pm

The federal capitol building of the mightiest country in the world was literally looted by white supremacists.



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07 Jan 2021, 2:57 pm

League_Girl wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Man the left protests really were peaceful. :lol:

Until the goose stomping troops ruined it making it be chaotic. :x

Seems to me like left protests turn deadly when the police are eager to use violence against them. And right protests turn deadly when the police are hesitant to use violence against them.

One exercises violence when violence is used against them.
The other exercises violence because they believe violence will not be used against them. Not to say that this paltry amount of police violence against them won't galvanize them and send them even further off the deep end.



Yep, right wing privilege.


Careful, if you call it what it is those who sympathize with those views will complain about personal attacks. We both know it's happened before.


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07 Jan 2021, 3:01 pm

Feyokien wrote:
The federal capitol building of the mightiest country in the world was literally looted by white supremacists.

There are white supremacist riots at the Chinese capitol in Beijing, too???