[IMPORTANT] Hamas launches foot assault against settlements.

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13 Oct 2023, 6:59 pm

Trouble in Burma also.It’s breaking out all over. :cry:
How many ongoing wars happening right now?How many does it take to become WW3?


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13 Oct 2023, 7:01 pm

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How many does it take to become WW3?


It doesn't matter how many little wars there are, unless they're strategically linked it's not resembling a world war.


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13 Oct 2023, 7:03 pm

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Misslizard wrote:
How many does it take to become WW3?


It doesn't matter how many little wars there are, unless they're strategically linked it's not resembling a world war.

not very reassuring. :(


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14 Oct 2023, 3:25 am

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14 Oct 2023, 3:29 am

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Trouble in Burma also.It’s breaking out all over. :cry:
How many ongoing wars happening right now?How many does it take to become WW3?



Only if US/Nato vs China or US/Nato vs Russia as direct confrontation.



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14 Oct 2023, 3:35 am

Generally - a world war would be if several major economies used all their power in a war.
So far, what we're observing, resembles the Cold War more - several peripheral/proxy conflicts and constant threat of full-scale SHTF.


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14 Oct 2023, 4:44 am

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But their political bloc has a lot of elected representatives, so they do also represent many Palestinians; so people are also accountable for Hamas’s rise to power.


There are attempts by the media to portray HAMAS as some type of evil overlord in Gaza and the Palestinian population as innocent bystanders with no control or responsibility for HAMAS. The proof of the pudding is
a) the refusal of a single Palestinian overseas to comment/condemn on the HAMAS atrocities
b) the refusal of a single Palestinian overseas to comment/condemn on the kidnapped (including foreigners)
c) the apparent universal celebration on the streets of every major western city by expatriate and settled Palestinians and muslim Arabs immediately following HAMAS terrorist attack


When this is over with, Israel should run a campaign to eradicate Hamas from the hearts and minds of the people of Gaza, very much as the Allies had done with De-Nazifying Germany after WWII.


It would help if they also educate Palestinians living oveaseas as well




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14 Oct 2023, 6:45 am

Not saying I agree, or disagree, but I do find this gentleman worth listening to on non political mental health issues.



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14 Oct 2023, 8:48 am

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Ex HAMAS leader calls for world-wide global day of Jihad in retaliation of israel's offensive in Gaza
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 023-10-11/
"In response, some police authorities in US cities, including New York and Los Angeles, announced that they plan to boost officer numbers to counter any potential violence. Some schools in the US and in the UK have closed due to concerns about “an international day of rage ” or “out of an abundance of caution.”

I would exercise caution going out today to sites which attract lots of tourists

In the U.S. the fears were misplaced. Plenty of peaceful demonstrations. It is just a bad idea to give in to fear every time someone makes a threat somewhere.

In reality American students are probably more in danger from apolitical mass shooters then terrorists.


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14 Oct 2023, 9:04 am

Good that he is an Ex- deputy Foriegn Minister .... :roll:


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14 Oct 2023, 9:30 am

I wonder if it's not going to be World War 3, but instead 3 Wars Around The World. Major wars which set off a chain reaction.


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14 Oct 2023, 9:36 am

Good and Poignant ...observation... 8O , All we need is China & Taiwan to get on board with the idea ? :ninja:


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14 Oct 2023, 9:56 am

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Good and Poignant ...observation... 8O , All we need is China & Taiwan to get on board with the idea ? :ninja:


Yes that is my worry. I'm sure China is plotting in the background. Or the foreground.


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14 Oct 2023, 10:37 am

Thought experiment here. What would you do if like in the TV show Quantum Leap you were transported into Benjamin Netanyahu’s body on today’s date?

If it was me I would s**t my pants because from what I see all options are either unrealistic or would make me a war criminal.

I could continue to do what he is doing. He is telling Hamas I will continue to cutoff your food, water, and electricity unless you free the hostages. In other words create 2 million hostages to free an estimated 150. The whole corridor idea is a PR, everybody knows nobody is going to take them. Even if a corridor is opened and somebody agrees to take them Hamas won’t let them out. Yes, they elected Hamas but that was years ago. So despite all the factors that are not Israel’s fault I would be deciding to invade knowing my decision is going to kill and maim tens of thousands of innocents. And the invasion might fail. Hamas just proved they can do things that negates Israel’s military advantage. Why can’t they do it again? I'm also know if I do not destroy Hamas I will probably be lynched.

Let’s say I take that lynching risk and stop the attempt to destroy Hamas and go back to containment. That containment has to look much different. Higher fence? They just proved they can go over that. Heavily manning the border 24/7 is unrealistic. The IDF is a citizens army. Not only compulsory service but they have reservists into their 40s. Meaning a large percentage of employees need to leave their jobs. This can’t be permanent. It is also why their wars need to be ended as quickly as possible ruling out less harsh measures.

There is popular opinion that Israel as a whole is an illegitimate apartheid state. There are three suggested solutions for that. A state for Jews and Gentiles. Israelis expect that would end in Holocaust 2.0. What just happened to put it mildly solidified that opinion. The same can be said for going back to the side by side states idea. This will never happen but since the demonstrators are chanting “From River to Sea” lets say because after defeat after defeat Israelis conclude it is just not worth it, the Palestinians are going to fight to the death to the last man by any means necessary. Where would they go? Who is going to accept seven million Jews who just quit? Maybe somebody but history tells the Jews they little or no reason to believe that.


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14 Oct 2023, 11:17 am

The Israeli ground offensive's zero hour will most likely be this late evening; GMT+3.