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27 Aug 2019, 2:25 am

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"For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat."
2 Thessalonians 3:10

Good Samaritanism is meant to be an act of compassion: finding someone beaten on the side of the road, helping or getting them help. It's not meant to be a lifetime commitment. By all means, help someone. I give the homeless guy money, when I have it to spare. But we don't have a set up where he meets me every Friday for his weekly donation.

Mark 10:13-16
13 People were bringing little children to Jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them. 14 When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 15 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.” 16 And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them.

A) that photo has nothing to do with the verse you connected it with.

B) as I suspected and found after a little digging:

"The truth behind this photo of an 'immigrant child' crying inside a cage

(CNN) — A photo of a little boy crying in a cage is being shared on social media as seemingly another heart-rending byproduct of the White House's "zero tolerance" immigration policy, which separates undocumented parents and kids at the border.
There's only one problem: The picture is being completely taken out of context -- and does not show what it is purported to show."

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/06/18/us/pho ... gle.com%2F

Multiple sources have debunked this photo.

And I found other similar photos being debunked.

It seems to me when subterfuge is resorted to the real problem is not bad enough to invoke the kind of reaction being sought.

And there has be a ton of outright lies cranked out regarding ICE facilities.

Like OAC lying about people drinking from toilets.

If the situation is really as bad as is being made out why so much lying?

Answer: Because it is not really that bad.

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27 Aug 2019, 2:30 am

How about this one Ezra

El Paso Texas....Apparently the children have no access to soap or beds....
He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.”

— Matthew 18:1-5

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27 Aug 2019, 2:38 am

the children are the collateral damage in this war between the tribes of ayn rand versus jesus christ, between the objectivist mammon worshipers versus those who want something a lot better.

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27 Aug 2019, 3:19 am

There are certain members on this forum using the bible to justify closing the door on refugees which is an antithesis to what Jesus Christ preached.

The christian foundations of the US were compromised with racism/slavery/genocide/colonisation, again evil justified in the name of Christ.

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27 Aug 2019, 3:25 am

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Even if true, should those children be left to starve?

The welfare mother scam is probably impossible to get around since children are being used that way. But it goes to show the lenths people will go to to get a free ride. Maybe after the kids are grown the parent(s) should be required to start paying the money back.

It's easy to accuse poor people on public assistance of scamming the government by using their kids. That doesn't mean they are scammers or moochers. And pay the money back? How? They're indigent.

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27 Aug 2019, 3:28 am

We have right wingers who famously accused refugees of throwing their own children from boats to get entry into Australia.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... david-marr

It was all lies designed to swing public opinion to the right...

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27 Aug 2019, 3:40 am

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Doesn't surprise me a bit that they'd lie about such an abhorrent thing.

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27 Aug 2019, 3:42 am

the bible predicted these times would be replete with false prophets and their false xtian mammon-worshiping ["prosperity gospel"] followers.

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27 Aug 2019, 4:02 am

cyberdad wrote:

How about this one Ezra

So you switch from fake news photos of children in cages to people standing behind a fence. Which could be any number of things and could have been taken any number of places. Most likely at worst it means a border facility has a fence at the border to keep people from illegally crossing the border.

I think maybe you should assess how easily fooled and taken in you were by that fake news photo. And maybe stop to ponder why there is a necessity to have to fake what is going on in ICE facilities.

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El Paso Texas....Apparently the children have no access to soap or beds....

According to who/what? OAC who lied about people being forced to drink out of toilets?

cyberdad wrote:

He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.”

— Matthew 18:1-5

Repeating that verse does not show its correlation to what is being discussed. So you will have to eliminate.

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27 Aug 2019, 4:08 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

EzraS wrote:

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Even if true, should those children be left to starve?

It's easy to accuse poor people on public assistance of scamming the government by using their kids. That doesn't mean they are scammers or moochers. And pay the money back? How? They're indigent.

It is easy because it happens.

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27 Aug 2019, 4:12 am

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So for the umpteenth time what is being said is, that the left is just like the right. What the hell kind of defense for the left is that supposed to be?

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27 Aug 2019, 4:17 am

EzraS wrote:

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EzraS wrote:

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Even if true, should those children be left to starve?

It's easy to accuse poor people on public assistance of scamming the government by using their kids. That doesn't mean they are scammers or moochers. And pay the money back? How? They're indigent.

It is easy because it happens.

I don't doubt there are people who abuse the system, but only the poor and needy get accused of it more than anyone else.

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27 Aug 2019, 4:29 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Even if true, should those children be left to starve?

It's easy to accuse poor people on public assistance of scamming the government by using their kids. That doesn't mean they are scammers or moochers. And pay the money back? How? They're indigent.

It is easy because it happens.

I don't doubt there are people who abuse the system, but only the poor and needy get accused of it more than anyone else.

Only the poor and needy get accused rather than the actual perpetrators. That sounds like nonsense.

You and cyberdad seem to be the ones constantly lumping the two together rather than the ones you are arguing with. While simultaneously falsely accusing the ones you are arguing with of lumping them together.

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27 Aug 2019, 4:36 am

Why is that boy crying, then?

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27 Aug 2019, 4:38 am

the magas say it's a left-wing plot to make the right look heartless. as if they need any help with that.

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27 Aug 2019, 4:51 am

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Why is that boy crying, then?

Read the news article I provided. Or any of the several other articles debunking that photo.

Based on all my little cousins, little kids cry hysterically over most anything.

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