Woman calls cops another Black Jogger

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If the police was likely to kill him, then I would agree with you she shouldn't have called them. I guess I just don't see the police killing him as a likely outcome. I mean, if police was constantly killing black people -- why are all these black people in jail still alive?

I admit I don't watch the news so I might not know everything. But still, suppose -- for the sake of the argument -- there are 10 incidents a year of police killing black people. But now divide 10 by the total number of police calls a year (which would be several thousand if not millions). So then you see that the probability of any given black person being killed by police is extremely low.

Its kinda like university shooters. Yes, these shooters made big news. Yet, if you count all these shootings within past two decades there were like 10 of them or so -- which, if divide by the total number of universities, doesn't sound all that bad.

Perhaps I'm overstating by specifically focusing on killing, but even just wanting him to be wrongfully detained is a far worse thing than anything he did. She knows black Americans are more likely to be wrongfully arrested and are more likely to be abused while in custody, because literally everyone including the (literal) Nazis who deny it knows it. I don't believe you're that naive, and that's why it's frustrating to keep encountering the same sorts of deflections from this. To be fair, you're not the only one doing it, but Robo's demonstrated a much more nuanced understanding of this topic in her posting history as compared to yours which... honestly, kinda doesn't do you any favours on this topic although to be fair, it's not like it's a topic you mention a lot.

Yes, I read posters posting histories to get an idea of what they stand for in order to make it less likely that I'm going off on someone for a single post, as well as to see if posters I find mostly agreeable might have a view that I need to be prepared to disavow if accused of supporting it by association.

The "Karens" who do crap like this are as bad as Derek Chauvin.

Collectively maybe, but that's like comparing a kid who drops something heavy from an overpass with the potential to kill or maim someone (but also the potential to turn out basically harmless) to someone who attacks someone with the intent to kill or cause serious injury. The one sets into motion a chain of events that have the potential for catastrophe, but largely is driven by indifference to the consequences, she likely didn't care either way what might happen to him.

Derek Chauvin is a violent man who knew exactly what he was doing as he deprived cooperative man's brain of blood and choked the f*****g life out of him. They're both bad, but don't pretend like they're equal. One's a -10 and the other's a -3 (on a scale of -10 through +10 with -10 being where cold-blooded murder falls).

It's not as though 'well, they're both racist so they're both equally wrong'. Amy Cooper and the person she chose to target both got to survive the incident and hopefully learn from it. Next time he should just toss his doggy treats to get the dog to go away and not taunt Karen because... it's not worth the hassle.

Simply saying "your posts suck" without saying which ones is a judgemental attitude right there. You don't like when black people are being prejudiced against on the basis that they are black? Yet you did the same thing to me just now.

In any case, while I don't know what specific posts you are referring to, let me tell you something general about the way I communicate (not just on race issue but on "any" issue). Suppose the topic case two sides, say A and B. And suppose the person I am talking to understands the side A but completely misses the side B. In this case I will keep hitting them over their head with side B. That doesn't mean that I don't see both sides. I very much do. But whats the point of talking about side A if we both agree on them? So I just talk about side B.

Now, as far as this thread is concerned, I can prove to you that I can see both sides by directing you to my reply at the top of p.10. In that reply I said "I think both of them made big mistakes" and presented both sides. But then everyone agreed with me about Amy's mistakes yet kept denying Christian's mistakes -- so that is what prompted me to emphasize more and more how it was Christian who was in the wrong, since this was the point that people kept denying.

As far as my other posts on race issues, it might be something similar. I noticed that wrongplanet is very much left wing. So, as a result of this, the "points that people don't see" would tend to fall on the right -- which is why my habbit of pointing them out would make me sound right wing. I imagine that if I were to go to some message board where most people are right wing, I would end up making left-wing arguments for that exact reason.

I realize that this is probably one of the main ways I alleinate people: if I keep presenting the "opposite" opinions to them it seems like I just want to argue. I guess I haven't worked out the ways of "pointing out the missing points" without ending up like I am on the opposite side completely. I mean I could, but then I have a sense that people don't hear me, which makes me emphasize it more and more. So I guess I need to learn the strategy of communicating whatever I feel that people are missing without sounding like I am totally ignoring anything else (and no I am not ignoring other things, I just make myself sound like I do). So thats the communication thing I have to learn.

Usually, the people who call WP a “left wing” site are “right wingers.”

I believe many different political beliefs are represented on WP.

Imagine if a white man did that to a coloured woman.
There would be an avalanche of virtue signaling in favour of the woman.

There are people out there, in the community, who just wait for an opportunity to show how moral they are.
And it is the selective choosing of events which highlights their hypocrisy.

Perhaps a bit of balance is in order?

Perhaps,
But give me 1 active moderator who has a conservative-leaning?
I think Ferris might have been, but he left in disgust.

Here is an objective proof that wrongplanet is left wing. Out of the people on wrongplanet who voted, probably 90% voted for Hillary. But out of the general population that voted it was very close to 50/50.

Where did you get this 90% figure?

I would say at least 30% of WP wouldn’t have voted for either Hillary or Donnie—because they are not Americans.

And probably a strong minority didn’t vote at all.

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Ferris was a good bloke.

When I read what people say about Trump they keep saying negative things.

I realize its quite logical to dislike Trump yet vote for him anyway as lesser of the two evils -- but the experiennce shows that most people don't do that. Trump is very polarizing and basically most people who voted for Trump have only the good things to say about him. Didn't have to be the case, but it is. So when I see everyone in Wrong Planet hate Trump, I conclude that most of them voted for Hillary.

First of all,
Yes, this is a left-leaning website.
Those with left-wing opinions are given more leeway.
And I should know,
I'm "a pretty smart cookie".

Regarding your objectivity:
I have the same position as you.
I am more interested in getting to the truth than supporting a political narrative.

<Pepe puts the cat amongst the pidgeons>
<popcorn>

Ferris was pretty non-political—maybe slightly on the conservative side, though probably not Tory.

I beg your pardon?

Here is an example of a thread where everyone hated Trump: viewtopic.php?t=386825