[IMPORTANT] Hamas launches foot assault against settlements.

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14 Oct 2023, 1:11 pm

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According to the latest reports by local health authorities and media, at least 2,215 Palestinians were reportedly killed, including over 700 children, and more than 8,714 people wounded, including more than 2,450 children," UNICEF spokeswoman Sara Al Hattab told CNN on Saturday [today].

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/middleeast/live ... index.html

That’s a lot of kids already.

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14 Oct 2023, 1:31 pm

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I could continue to do what he is doing. He is telling Hamas I will continue to cutoff your food, water, and electricity unless you free the hostages. In other words create 2 million hostages to free an estimated 150. The whole corridor idea is a PR, everybody knows nobody is going to take them. Even if a corridor is opened and somebody agrees to take them Hamas won’t let them out. Yes, they elected Hamas but that was years ago. So despite all the factors that are not Israel’s fault I would be deciding to invade knowing my decision is going to kill and maim tens of thousands of innocents. And the invasion might fail. Hamas just proved they can do things that negates Israel’s military advantage. Why can’t they do it again? I'm also know if I do not destroy Hamas I will probably be lynched.

But I thought that the whole point of the corridor is to have a place cleared of Hamas fighters in order to allow the civilians to leave. Before the IDF informed them of the corridor, Hamas was blocking the roads to prevent them from leaving. The real issue is that 6 hours is not enough time for many people to flee.

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14 Oct 2023, 2:35 pm

If you evacuate you may never be able to come back home.Where will all those people go?

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14 Oct 2023, 2:53 pm

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If you evacuate you may never be able to come back home.Where will all those people go?

Mostly to the southern part of the Gaza strip. I don't think there's enough space for them. Nonetheless, hundreds of thousands of them have evacuated, they don't have any other choice.

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14 Oct 2023, 5:18 pm

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Egypt has not opened their border with Gaza and Israel is happy with that because they do not want Hamas fighters sneaking out with the civilians.

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14 Oct 2023, 11:00 pm

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There are graphic footage elsewhere... gunmen in the middle of street of Israeli settlments and the Israel's army seems to be in confusion. A lot of civilian bodies in the street.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 023-10-07/

This is an unprecedented attack in history.

I'm a bit confused by the original story.

Where were these Israeli "settlements" that got attacked?

I thought Israelis were called "settlers," and their towns called "settlements," only if they are illegally (by international law) located in occupied territories such as the West Bank.

But the linked news story sounds like these attacks were on Israelis in Israel proper.

So why the reference to "settlements" in the title and first post of this thread?

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14 Oct 2023, 11:55 pm

:roll: ....prolly gonna get bloody .... :roll: .....Always hoping cooler heads might prevail...?
Guess am not usually apt to Pray in the middle of a War ..? but am praying that the bloodshed dies down,or JUST stops.

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15 Oct 2023, 2:37 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Egypt has not opened their border with Gaza and Israel is happy with that because they do not want Hamas fighters sneaking out with the civilians.

I would imagine this is the only bargaining chip HAMAS have short of being obliterated from the face of the earth. The thought crossed my mind they will want to move the hostages to a sympathetic Arab country outside of Gaza.

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15 Oct 2023, 4:09 am

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I don’t think there’s ever a good excuse to engage in the type of extreme brutality that’s occurring, especially with civilians.

I agree with you...

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We need to immediately establish a peace table.

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15 Oct 2023, 4:30 am

Jakki wrote:

:roll:

....prolly gonna get bloody ....

.....Always hoping cooler heads might prevail...?
Guess am not usually apt to Pray in the middle of a War ..? but am praying that the bloodshed dies down,or JUST stops.

It already has been bloody.

I doubt prayer would do any good considering that God was conspicuously absent when thousands of people, including MANY children, have died already, not to mention his general lack of involvement whenever anything awful is happening in the world (child abuse in its various forms, terrorism, the Holocaust, etc.). Assuming that he exists, which I don't in actuality, it would be strange for him to suddenly start giving a f**k now in this particular conflict.

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15 Oct 2023, 9:38 am

People pray for a savior to come and straighten out the mess we have made of this sad world.
No one is coming to help us.
Only we can save ourselves , it seems we are unwilling to do that.

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15 Oct 2023, 10:38 am

cyberdad wrote:

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Egypt has not opened their border with Gaza and Israel is happy with that because they do not want Hamas fighters sneaking out with the civilians.

Obliterating HAMAS is next to impossible. Because HAMAS uses the entire population of Gaza as its human shield. Indeed thats part of the intent. To purposely goad Israel into creating collateral damage in Gaza on purpose to radicalize the population.

The only "sympathetic nation" would be Iran, a thousand miles away. Maybe Assad of Syria is "sympathetic" but he is only now barely able to consolidate control of his own country, and cant do favors for anyone else right now.

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15 Oct 2023, 11:42 am

https://www.vox.com/technology/2023/10/ ... b-EBi2Jiqc

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15 Oct 2023, 12:06 pm

If only trump were president. He said if he were president this would have never happened. Same with putin invading Ukraine. This is what it's costing the world not to have donald trump as potus. Hopefully Biden's body double, that's being pupped by Obama, steps aside and allows the true winner of the 2020 election to restore peace in the middle east by reminding all parties involved that jared kushner made some sort of real estate deal that ended all of this nonsense. I'm sure they just forgot about whatever trump tower was proposed and all the jobs and tourism it's going to bring and as soon as trump is president again everything will be bigly tremendous again, again.

I guess I figure a little dark orange spray tanned humour is better than talking about a bunch of slaughtered kids. Not a lot any of us can do about it besides read some stats in the news and see what happens next.

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15 Oct 2023, 1:18 pm

Does anyone know if Israel's ground offensive has started yet? I thought that it would of started by now.

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15 Oct 2023, 1:57 pm

I’ve been avoiding the news since it’s so depressing.I haven’t seen anything about it.

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