You thought PETA was nuts before....

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I think that this may be because a PETA representitive was not called to dispatch the fly properly.



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Oh come now, even this article concedes that this is only the statistic for Dalmations. I'm sure when you factor in ALL the animals Peta has rescued it is a much smaller number.

Like 84%... Or at least 84.5%.

I have lately learned this was all a publicity stunt aimed at North Korean Nuclear Disarmament:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sV3_LUBGTU&feature=fvw[/youtube]

According to Reuters, it's significantly greater than that.

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Och! Wow. Thanks, Fogman. But don't these guys do ANY good? I mean, what is their goal then? It is just the almighty dollar? Are they really so... misguided? Evil? What's your take? Did they start "good" and become corrupted?

No wonder there is such a strong anti-PeTA vibe going on. That much makes sense to me now.

I remeber when PETA was founded and it was realy about stoping animal abuse. A noble cause but for the most part the peaple running the show realy, realy need someone to look at them at all times. Maybe they feel noone will heard what they have to say if they aren't nutty and/or offencive. You might have something there on the money thing they seem to take it from anybody and I've never seen anything good they did in the years I lived near there head quarters. Hang on they did catch and release feral cats after fixing then and getting them shots and put a few in a up state farm with some rock star. Other then that I can't think of anything they did that wasn't insane.

F*** arthropods.


hurray for PETA! (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals)

ok, so i've attacked bugs, offended PETA, now vegetarians!

vegetarians who chose to be vegetarians because of their feelings on animal rights who aren't vegans. really?
i mean, let's think about this. "i don't want to eat a chicken because it's alive. yeah i'll eat eggs. wtf do you mean you cooked a cow fetus for me?!?! that's disgusting!!"
or "i don't eat meat because it's cruel how they treat animals at farms. yeah sure i'll drink milk and eat cheese. nah, i don't mind that the cows are basically being tortured to get this product."


some people are just so full of it (and loud). i have a vegan friend who is very intelligent but often finds himself lumped in with these fools. i once presented him with a (half-hearted) proposal on how to actually convert most of the country to veganism and then proceeded to explain all the great ideas i had for how to dispose of the livestock populations we would no longer need. i think my favorite was "giant barbecue." think of the positive impact the elimination of cattle in the u.s. alone would have on climate change. you'd be surprised what kind of emissions a cow has.

Again with the vegetarian bashing eh? What's wrong with being a vegetarian? I always make sure I know where my goats cheese is from because I do worry about how the goats are treated. In the place I get my cheese from, they are treated very well. But still, I digress... PETA are stupid...

Same here. I'm a vegetarian and an animal rights supporter. I only eat free range eggs, only eat vegetarian cheese and only drink soya milk. If I wear anything resembling leather, I always make sure it's faux. And I buy all my cleaning products and cosmetics from the Co-Op because - in the UK at least - they don't use any ingredients thatr have been tested on animals after a fixed cut-off date in 1985.

Like you, though, I do have issues with PETA. They give what would otherwise be perfectly sensible and rational beliefs a very bad reputation because of their fanaticism and deliberately provocative marketing campaigns. I think they turn more people off the cause than onto it. On the rare occasions that I have enough cash to donate to animal charities, I always give to Animal Aid or CIWF rather than PETA.

I swear most of PETA are crazy.
I guess in the beginning the organisation may have been taken seriously but now it's just an international joke.

Nothing wrong with Vegetarians though, i respect their views unless they try and force those views onto me, in which i will lose all respect for that person and what they stand or sit for.

Applies for everything as well.

There is nothing wrong with being a vegetarian. A properly constructed veggie diet is healthy and nourishing. HOWEVER, there is a great deal wrong with pretending animals (other than humans) have rights. They don't. Rights is a human concept for human beings. It does not apply to less intelligent species on this planet.

Also PETA condoned terrorist and criminal acts an laboratories that conducted proper and necessary medical research, where they used animal subjects to test various treatments and drugs. If we have to sacrifice animals or eat their flesh for our nourishment so be it.

ruveyn

That's a simplistic overview. If what you're saying about the less intelligent species on the planet not having rights were true, you and I would have the moral right to kill and eat anyone whose IQs are lower than ours.

Absolutely no one is born with rights, regardless of which species they originate from. Rights have to be fought for. That sucks, but it's a fact of life. There are plenty of countries in which human beings are treated the same way we treat animals, and the same arguments you're using are used as justification for human rights abuses there.

This same worldview was al;so used as justification for keeping slaves 200 years ago, and still is in some parts of the world.

Regarding medical research, the arguments anti-vivesctionist organisations like BUAV are not based on condemnation of vital medical research. They're based on the fact that 90 per cent of animal testing is of no practical use to human beings whatsoever. It's all funded by drug companies whose only concern is making money.

That's why there are approximately 600 different painkillers on the market - the majority of which are from the same drug grouping as aspirin and paracetamol - which don't vary at all from their blueprints. That's also why there aren't cures for cancer or AIDS yet - currently, not enough people suffer from these conditions to make effective antidotes profitable, and there's no reason to believe for a minute that pharmaceutical companies have any interest in anything other than profit.

Amusing when you think where those pharmaceutical companies come from heh? :>

I am not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with you, but I could not read further than this sentence. Examine this:

Species (definition): A group of organisms capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring.
Less intelligent species: Since only humans can breed with humans (barring certain horror movies, the literal meaning of your avatar handle, and hardcore porn), this would encompass all non-humans

So your sentence reads: "If non-humans have no rights, I can kill and eat low IQ people". I'm saying this without confrontation or animosity and trying to reach out from pure reason. Do you see this? B does not follow A

Oh please don't get PETA started on single celled organisms or they'll start trying to get antibiotics outlawed on the grounds that they slaughter bacteria.

Being a vegan works, like Ruveyn said, as long as you keep your diet well balanced, the only problem wth eating only veggies is that the energy from eating only those is much less than eating meat (which is much higher in energy), so to compensate for that, you have to eat a lot more veggies (well that's usually the case).

PETA has done several wacky things in the past few months: first they asked the electropop band the Pet Shop Boys to change their name to "The Rescue Shelter Boys", which ruins the pun in their name completely.

Then they wrote a letter asking Phish - a band that I love - to change their name to "The Sea Kittens", ignoring the fact that the band was named after their drummer Jon "Fish" Fishman and a version of the old "ghoti/fish" wordplay joke.

Now they release a statement condemning the President for killing a fly.

Insane.