Democrats seek to 'Dissolve' Cities in Georgia
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Black people do have the right to have their voices heard, too.
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They are getting heard. They have the right to protest (and they don't get their @$$ kicked for it anymore), they have the right to call and write their representatives, and they have the right to vote. If you will notice the most recent census, there are a lot of major demographic changes across the country that may cause shifts in the prevailing political climate of an area, and singling out one instance of demographic shifts and calling it racist is absurd. All voters had a chance to weigh in on the referendums, and in every city in question the referendums passed with at least 80% of the vote.
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Black people do have the right to have their voices heard, too.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
They are getting heard. They have the right to protest (and they don't get their @$$ kicked for it anymore), they have the right to call and write their representatives, and they have the right to vote. If you will notice the most recent census, there are a lot of major demographic changes across the country that may cause shifts in the prevailing political climate of an area, and singling out one instance of demographic shifts and calling it racist is absurd. All voters had a chance to weigh in on the referendums, and in every city in question the referendums passed with at least 80% of the vote.
They're heard - in theory. In practice, it isn't always the case. Realistically, enough is still done to suppress the vote among blacks, as there are plans to disenfranchise college students, and poorer people just to name a few examples.
If you notice, voter suppression is never a concern in gated communities.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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Black people do have the right to have their voices heard, too.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
They are getting heard. They have the right to protest (and they don't get their @$$ kicked for it anymore), they have the right to call and write their representatives, and they have the right to vote. If you will notice the most recent census, there are a lot of major demographic changes across the country that may cause shifts in the prevailing political climate of an area, and singling out one instance of demographic shifts and calling it racist is absurd. All voters had a chance to weigh in on the referendums, and in every city in question the referendums passed with at least 80% of the vote.
They're heard - in theory. In practice, it isn't always the case. Realistically, enough is still done to suppress the vote among blacks, as there are plans to disenfranchise college students, and poorer people just to name a few examples.
If you notice, voter suppression is never a concern in gated communities.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'm not sure what's up with college students' voting rights there, and when it comes to voter reform laws, all that is being asked is that everybody present legal documents that all citizens (even poor ones) are supposed to have, and they have means available to get replacement copies if they need them. However, when it comes to the incorporation of the cities, all that is a moot point because voter reform laws were not in place in those special elections.
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Black people do have the right to have their voices heard, too.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
They are getting heard. They have the right to protest (and they don't get their @$$ kicked for it anymore), they have the right to call and write their representatives, and they have the right to vote. If you will notice the most recent census, there are a lot of major demographic changes across the country that may cause shifts in the prevailing political climate of an area, and singling out one instance of demographic shifts and calling it racist is absurd. All voters had a chance to weigh in on the referendums, and in every city in question the referendums passed with at least 80% of the vote.
They're heard - in theory. In practice, it isn't always the case. Realistically, enough is still done to suppress the vote among blacks, as there are plans to disenfranchise college students, and poorer people just to name a few examples.
If you notice, voter suppression is never a concern in gated communities.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I'm not sure what's up with college students' voting rights there, and when it comes to voter reform laws, all that is being asked is that everybody present legal documents that all citizens (even poor ones) are supposed to have, and they have means available to get replacement copies if they need them. However, when it comes to the incorporation of the cities, all that is a moot point because voter reform laws were not in place in those special elections.
There is a scheme by Republicans, who in appealing to older, more conservative voters, are trying to make it more difficult, if not impossible for college students to vote, by excluding them if they or their parents are not permanent residents. It was openly stated by said politicians that younger voters are too liberal for their own good. Glenn Beck has also made a similar statement.
In regard to blacks and poor people, there has been a sh***y trick in some places where voters without picture ID are turned away from the polls. Blacks and poor people are less likely to have drivers licenses or other ID than other voters.
At the end of the day, the people who find themselves excluded are generally liberal voters.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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That's one of the reasons why absentee ballots exist.
At the end of the day, the people who find themselves excluded are generally liberal voters.
That's not a trick and it is not a barrier to vote. How do they get their welfare, government housing, medicaid, food stamps, and buy their liquor and cigarettes without some form of ID? I'm not trying to talk crap about poor people needing those things (well maybe no the alcohol and cigarettes), but come on! Show a little initiative in life and go get the legal documents that are used for a lot of things that will make their life better. It's not hard! When I turned 18 I couldn't drive due to a medical issue so I got a state ID for any legal business that may come up (at that time mainly a job). When I went to got apply for a state ID I found my birth certificate but I discovered I lost my social security card, so I got off my ass to get a replacement social security card, and when that came I got off my ass to get an ID, and I registered to vote while I was at the DMV. In 10 years now I have never had any issue getting a ballot and casting my vote at my assigned polling place.
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"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars."
- Unknown
"A fear of weapons is a sign of ret*d sexual and emotional maturity."
-Sigmund Freud
At the end of the day, the people who find themselves excluded are generally liberal voters.
That's not a trick and it is not a barrier to vote. How do they get their welfare, government housing, medicaid, food stamps, and buy their liquor and cigarettes without some form of ID?
perhaps some "blacks and poor people" care more about voting than welfare, liquor, cigarettes
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At the end of the day, the people who find themselves excluded are generally liberal voters.
That's not a trick and it is not a barrier to vote. How do they get their welfare, government housing, medicaid, food stamps, and buy their liquor and cigarettes without some form of ID?
perhaps some "blacks and poor people" care more about voting than welfare, liquor, cigarettes
Amen.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
John_Browning
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At the end of the day, the people who find themselves excluded are generally liberal voters.
That's not a trick and it is not a barrier to vote. How do they get their welfare, government housing, medicaid, food stamps, and buy their liquor and cigarettes without some form of ID?
perhaps some "blacks and poor people" care more about voting than welfare, liquor, cigarettes
If that's the case, then they would already have a need to have all their legally identifying documents in order.
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- Unknown
"A fear of weapons is a sign of ret*d sexual and emotional maturity."
-Sigmund Freud
The way municipalities are incorporated and governed varies widely from state to state, and it's interesting. Georgia, like Kentucky, has only "cities" (no towns or villages) and for a homoegenuous economic or ethnic group to incorporate a new one is a simple process, whereas here in Connecticut (and RI and MA) there is vritually no county structure, all land is part of a "town" whose lines were drawn up about three hundred years ago. Hence our cities have very wealthy sections, and neighborhoods just blocks away that are like the Third World, all under the same city government, whereas in most states the well-to-do often incorporate a separate municipality outside the city limits.
But we still suffer the same problems of "disenfranchised" poor minorities who are completely removed from society and do not vote or have any knowledge of the political process.
Nevada is interesting too, greater Las Vegas consists of both incorporated and unincorporated land. If you look at a map of the city limits it is a big scrambled mess, with many parts of the Strip technically outside of Las Vegas and under the jurisdiction of Clark County. It would make things a lot simpler if the city would just annex all the unincorporated land, but the Clark County Commission isn't too keen on relinquishing their powers. They did at least merge the city and county police departments.
As for gerrymandering... all congressional districts should be redrawn as counties or groups of counties. That's fair for everyone. Of course, it will never happen in a million years, because the House and Senate are perfectly happy with their own little kingdoms.
All this random information goes along with my special interest of maps and roads BTW.
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