Announcement about Osama Binladen from Obama

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02 May 2011, 4:57 am

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02 May 2011, 5:00 am

Awesome. Finally, after all these years, the big cheese of evil is dead. This is a day to remember for the ages.



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02 May 2011, 5:43 am

I'm very happy. Would love to see those photos though too



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02 May 2011, 5:46 am

So it goes.


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02 May 2011, 6:39 am

. Yay, Cobra Commander is dead! His evil organisation will all just go away...

The Hitler parallel is a good one actually. Consider that it took the complete dissolution of a whole nation state and the execution of most of its leading figures to "end" the Nazi threat, and even then it didn't end it, merely reduced it monumentally. Shooting one man is not going to suddenly end "the war." My money is on martyrdom making it worse. I just hope that Obama's inherent dislike of all things British has disconnected us enough that we don't get caught in the backlash.


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02 May 2011, 6:52 am

DNA analysis was done on the corpse, or so it was claimed. The U.S. has plenty of DNA from bin Laden's extensive family so the identification is possible and even probable if it was done as claimed. We will know for as sure as we can, when his followers admit the death publicly.

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02 May 2011, 7:05 am

Giftorcurse wrote:
So it goes.


Yes, that is what Kurt Vonnegut might say if he were alive today. He hated war and wrote some interesting novels about how people who do evil things justify it in their minds. I think one such novel title was "Mother Night." Your quote comes from "Slaughterhouse Five" if I recall correctly.

I liked the quote of a person on the street in reaction to this news. To paraphrase, she said that she is not celebrating the death of a person, but the end of a person who causes death.

I am happy for those victims who will find some closure from this.

I don't want to imply I don't believe in self defense, I do. These fundamentalist fascists are motivated by becoming a martyr by being killed, so killing them may not have the desired effect. Eventually, maybe we will kill them all.


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02 May 2011, 7:12 am

ruveyn wrote:
DNA analysis was done on the corpse, or so it was claimed. The U.S. has plenty of DNA from bin Laden's extensive family so the identification is possible and even probable if it was done as claimed. We will know for as sure as we can, when his followers admit the death publicly.

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I suspect that there will be those who will never believe. The burial at sea could be problematic, but I don't see any other way to avoid creating a shrine for terrorists.


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02 May 2011, 8:05 am

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02 May 2011, 8:43 am

ruveyn wrote:


:lol: My thoughts exactly!



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02 May 2011, 9:09 am

This is great news but I'm afraid it isn't the end of terrorism. I'm sure it will only provoke his followers to do more damage than they've been doing. Then again I could be wrong. Anyway it's about time.


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02 May 2011, 9:16 am

The bogeyman is dead. Long live the soon-to-be-identified new bogeyman, who'll justify the next decade of the endless war.

"Statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." ~Mark Twain


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02 May 2011, 9:28 am

My official interpretation of events: "Harry Potter and his band of wizards finally killed Voldemort and sent him to sea so he could never float around with his magic wand of death ever again."


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02 May 2011, 10:22 am

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02 May 2011, 10:45 am

i_wanna_blue wrote:
idiocratik wrote:
The bogeyman is dead. Long live the soon-to-be-identified new bogeyman, who'll justify the next decade of the endless war.


Well said. The next "bogeyman" will be Iran most probably. The powers that be always need someone evil to fight. In the last century alone it was Germany, Japan, Vietnam, Saddam Hussein, Fidel Castro, Communist Russia, Korea, now the Taliban and Bin Laden.

The funny thing to me though is how people use the word "Terror". It's only terrorism when Bin Laden or any other "enemies/bogeyman" are behind it. When the two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan, it wasn't terrorism. When almost 200, 000 innocent Iraqis died, it's not terrorism. When Israel killed over 1000 civilians in the last Gaza war, it wasn't terrorism.

What the "Good guys" get up to is never labelled terrorism, even though it clearly is.


Some wars have been necessary, particularly the "civil" ones, but anything major has had nothing but conspiracy and tyranny written all over it.


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02 May 2011, 11:04 am

Osama Bin Laden getting killed is the best news I've heard in a long time. Good riddance. Also, the war in Afghanistan was technically self-defense because the Taliban was actually harboring Osama Bin Laden and the main training camps for Al-Quada.