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29 Sep 2012, 4:00 pm

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And when is that 10% supposed to be withdrawn? On tax day, in one lump sum? Being as frugal as possible doesn't negate the fact that being deprived of that ten percent in one felled swoop would be financially devastating to the poor. That's why payroll taxes are taken out of a person's paycheck incrementally.


I would be okay with them setting up a payment plan. However I want them writing the check to the government, not it simply being taken out of their paycheck.

I want people to know they are paying something to the government, not it being taken out in some hidden means.



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29 Sep 2012, 5:22 pm

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And when is that 10% supposed to be withdrawn? On tax day, in one lump sum? Being as frugal as possible doesn't negate the fact that being deprived of that ten percent in one felled swoop would be financially devastating to the poor. That's why payroll taxes are taken out of a person's paycheck incrementally.


I would be okay with them setting up a payment plan. However I want them writing the check to the government, not it simply being taken out of their paycheck.

I want people to know they are paying something to the government, not it being taken out in some hidden means.


Hidden means? I don't know of a single person who doesn't understand how and why payroll taxes are taken out of their paychecks.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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29 Sep 2012, 6:32 pm

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Actually, I wouldn't mind the sales tax being abolished, and the idiotic mess of a tax code replaced with a simple 10% income tax.


More magical thinking on your part. 10% wouldn't provide a functional government, not that ours is all that functional now.



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29 Sep 2012, 8:09 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And when is that 10% supposed to be withdrawn? On tax day, in one lump sum? Being as frugal as possible doesn't negate the fact that being deprived of that ten percent in one felled swoop would be financially devastating to the poor. That's why payroll taxes are taken out of a person's paycheck incrementally.


I would be okay with them setting up a payment plan. However I want them writing the check to the government, not it simply being taken out of their paycheck.

I want people to know they are paying something to the government, not it being taken out in some hidden means.


Hidden means? I don't know of a single person who doesn't understand how and why payroll taxes are taken out of their paychecks.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yeah, but people don't have to actually write the check for it, if people have to physically write the check, then they are more apt to pay attention to what government does with that money.



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30 Sep 2012, 12:29 am

Inuyasha wrote:
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Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And when is that 10% supposed to be withdrawn? On tax day, in one lump sum? Being as frugal as possible doesn't negate the fact that being deprived of that ten percent in one felled swoop would be financially devastating to the poor. That's why payroll taxes are taken out of a person's paycheck incrementally.


I would be okay with them setting up a payment plan. However I want them writing the check to the government, not it simply being taken out of their paycheck.

I want people to know they are paying something to the government, not it being taken out in some hidden means.


Hidden means? I don't know of a single person who doesn't understand how and why payroll taxes are taken out of their paychecks.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yeah, but people don't have to actually write the check for it, if people have to physically write the check, then they are more apt to pay attention to what government does with that money.


Really? Or would they just regard it as a new burden?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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30 Sep 2012, 8:22 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And when is that 10% supposed to be withdrawn? On tax day, in one lump sum? Being as frugal as possible doesn't negate the fact that being deprived of that ten percent in one felled swoop would be financially devastating to the poor. That's why payroll taxes are taken out of a person's paycheck incrementally.


I would be okay with them setting up a payment plan. However I want them writing the check to the government, not it simply being taken out of their paycheck.

I want people to know they are paying something to the government, not it being taken out in some hidden means.


Hidden means? I don't know of a single person who doesn't understand how and why payroll taxes are taken out of their paychecks.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yeah, but people don't have to actually write the check for it, if people have to physically write the check, then they are more apt to pay attention to what government does with that money.


Really? Or would they just regard it as a new burden?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Don't care which they believe, either way they will get just as angry as the people that do pay income taxes when the government starts wasting taxpayer money.



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30 Sep 2012, 8:34 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And when is that 10% supposed to be withdrawn? On tax day, in one lump sum? Being as frugal as possible doesn't negate the fact that being deprived of that ten percent in one felled swoop would be financially devastating to the poor. That's why payroll taxes are taken out of a person's paycheck incrementally.


I would be okay with them setting up a payment plan. However I want them writing the check to the government, not it simply being taken out of their paycheck.

I want people to know they are paying something to the government, not it being taken out in some hidden means.


Hidden means? I don't know of a single person who doesn't understand how and why payroll taxes are taken out of their paychecks.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yeah, but people don't have to actually write the check for it, if people have to physically write the check, then they are more apt to pay attention to what government does with that money.


Really? Or would they just regard it as a new burden?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Don't care which they believe, either way they will get just as angry as the people that do pay income taxes when the government starts wasting taxpayer money.


Or maybe not, as they would be paying their payroll tax, and unemployment insurance, which they know they will have to depend on.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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30 Sep 2012, 8:59 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And when is that 10% supposed to be withdrawn? On tax day, in one lump sum? Being as frugal as possible doesn't negate the fact that being deprived of that ten percent in one felled swoop would be financially devastating to the poor. That's why payroll taxes are taken out of a person's paycheck incrementally.


I would be okay with them setting up a payment plan. However I want them writing the check to the government, not it simply being taken out of their paycheck.

I want people to know they are paying something to the government, not it being taken out in some hidden means.


Hidden means? I don't know of a single person who doesn't understand how and why payroll taxes are taken out of their paychecks.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yeah, but people don't have to actually write the check for it, if people have to physically write the check, then they are more apt to pay attention to what government does with that money.


Really? Or would they just regard it as a new burden?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Don't care which they believe, either way they will get just as angry as the people that do pay income taxes when the government starts wasting taxpayer money.


Or maybe not, as they would be paying their payroll tax, and unemployment insurance, which they know they will have to depend on.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


They don't have to consciously write the check in those cases, and with direct deposit, they often don't see the amounts being taken out of their paychecks either.



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30 Sep 2012, 9:52 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And when is that 10% supposed to be withdrawn? On tax day, in one lump sum? Being as frugal as possible doesn't negate the fact that being deprived of that ten percent in one felled swoop would be financially devastating to the poor. That's why payroll taxes are taken out of a person's paycheck incrementally.


I would be okay with them setting up a payment plan. However I want them writing the check to the government, not it simply being taken out of their paycheck.

I want people to know they are paying something to the government, not it being taken out in some hidden means.


Hidden means? I don't know of a single person who doesn't understand how and why payroll taxes are taken out of their paychecks.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yeah, but people don't have to actually write the check for it, if people have to physically write the check, then they are more apt to pay attention to what government does with that money.


Really? Or would they just regard it as a new burden?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Don't care which they believe, either way they will get just as angry as the people that do pay income taxes when the government starts wasting taxpayer money.


Or maybe not, as they would be paying their payroll tax, and unemployment insurance, which they know they will have to depend on.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


They don't have to consciously write the check in those cases, and with direct deposit, they often don't see the amounts being taken out of their paychecks either.


Regardless, they know it's happening.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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07 Oct 2012, 1:23 pm

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Take that up with Romney's old man, who had started the whole precedent.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Really? That is ironic.

It is time to establish the Republic of MYOB (Mind Your Own Business).

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07 Oct 2012, 8:05 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Take that up with Romney's old man, who had started the whole precedent.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Really? That is ironic.

It is time to establish the Republic of MYOB (Mind Your Own Business).

ruveyn


When the Donald Trumps of the world will stop demanding to see Obama's birth certificate... and his college transcripts... and whatever the hell else he thinks will prove whatever about the President.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Oct 2012, 5:10 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Take that up with Romney's old man, who had started the whole precedent.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Really? That is ironic.

It is time to establish the Republic of MYOB (Mind Your Own Business).

ruveyn


When the Donald Trumps of the world will stop demanding to see Obama's birth certificate... and his college transcripts... and whatever the hell else he thinks will prove whatever about the President.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Certainly that. If someone wants to know my income and marks I will happily tell him to f*ck off.

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08 Oct 2012, 1:48 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Take that up with Romney's old man, who had started the whole precedent.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Really? That is ironic.

It is time to establish the Republic of MYOB (Mind Your Own Business).

ruveyn


When the Donald Trumps of the world will stop demanding to see Obama's birth certificate... and his college transcripts... and whatever the hell else he thinks will prove whatever about the President.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Certainly that. If someone wants to know my income and marks I will happily tell him to f*ck off.

ruveyn


Unfortunately, the most powerful man in the world - or someone wishing to be elected the most powerful man in the world - doesn't have that freedom, simply because telling someone to f**k off doesn't make you look presidential.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Oct 2012, 5:52 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Take that up with Romney's old man, who had started the whole precedent.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Really? That is ironic.

It is time to establish the Republic of MYOB (Mind Your Own Business).

ruveyn


When the Donald Trumps of the world will stop demanding to see Obama's birth certificate... and his college transcripts... and whatever the hell else he thinks will prove whatever about the President.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Certainly that. If someone wants to know my income and marks I will happily tell him to f*ck off.

ruveyn


Unfortunately, the most powerful man in the world - or someone wishing to be elected the most powerful man in the world - doesn't have that freedom, simply because telling someone to f**k off doesn't make you look presidential.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Romney released the tax returns because of Harry Reid's phony claims that Romney didn't pay taxes...



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08 Oct 2012, 9:30 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Take that up with Romney's old man, who had started the whole precedent.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Really? That is ironic.

It is time to establish the Republic of MYOB (Mind Your Own Business).

ruveyn


When the Donald Trumps of the world will stop demanding to see Obama's birth certificate... and his college transcripts... and whatever the hell else he thinks will prove whatever about the President.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Certainly that. If someone wants to know my income and marks I will happily tell him to f*ck off.

ruveyn


Unfortunately, the most powerful man in the world - or someone wishing to be elected the most powerful man in the world - doesn't have that freedom, simply because telling someone to f**k off doesn't make you look presidential.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Romney released the tax returns because of Harry Reid's phony claims that Romney didn't pay taxes...


Then I guess that would be like Obama showing his birth certificate because of Trump's phony claims that he wasn't born in this country. That is, Trump and all the tea baggers and birthers. I'll tell you what: I might just concede Reed was wrong, if you admit Trump and company were wrong.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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08 Oct 2012, 11:09 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Take that up with Romney's old man, who had started the whole precedent.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Really? That is ironic.

It is time to establish the Republic of MYOB (Mind Your Own Business).

ruveyn


When the Donald Trumps of the world will stop demanding to see Obama's birth certificate... and his college transcripts... and whatever the hell else he thinks will prove whatever about the President.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Certainly that. If someone wants to know my income and marks I will happily tell him to f*ck off.

ruveyn


Unfortunately, the most powerful man in the world - or someone wishing to be elected the most powerful man in the world - doesn't have that freedom, simply because telling someone to f**k off doesn't make you look presidential.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Romney released the tax returns because of Harry Reid's phony claims that Romney didn't pay taxes...


Then I guess that would be like Obama showing his birth certificate because of Trump's phony claims that he wasn't born in this country. That is, Trump and all the tea baggers and birthers. I'll tell you what: I might just concede Reed was wrong, if you admit Trump and company were wrong.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Donald Trump is a private citizen, if he believes Obama's birth certificate is false, he's entitled to his opinion.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, is in charge of the United States Senate, he is speaking from a position of authority as the man in charge of the senate, he used that position to try to smear Mitt Romney. What's more he lied about having inside information to prove Romney didn't pay taxes.