Prime Suspects are Chechnayan Muslims.

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21 Apr 2013, 4:54 pm

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Anyone who would show any sympathy for those two terrorists may as well be a terrorist himself.

Massachusetts does not have an enforceable death penalty statute, having been struck down by court ruling in 1984.

He is likely to spend his remaining days in prison, so for now give Dzhokhar just enough lidocaine to get a full confession from him, but otherwise show the dog no mercy for the rest of his miserable life.


Isn't terrorism a federal crime? Can't he be executed for that?


hes not even getting a trail thanks to the national defense authorization act

he did not have his Miranda rights read
he wont get a trial
he does not have the right to remain silent or have a lawyer
basically all his rights as a us citizen have been removed

the goverment is trampling all over the constitution and people are clapping and cheering USA USA USA

the founding fathers are rolling so fast in their graves they could be an alternate energy source


I've heard. Very scary indeed.



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21 Apr 2013, 6:02 pm

CSBurks wrote:
chris5000 wrote:
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Anyone who would show any sympathy for those two terrorists may as well be a terrorist himself.

Massachusetts does not have an enforceable death penalty statute, having been struck down by court ruling in 1984.

He is likely to spend his remaining days in prison, so for now give Dzhokhar just enough lidocaine to get a full confession from him, but otherwise show the dog no mercy for the rest of his miserable life.


Isn't terrorism a federal crime? Can't he be executed for that?


hes not even getting a trail thanks to the national defense authorization act

he did not have his Miranda rights read
he wont get a trial
he does not have the right to remain silent or have a lawyer
basically all his rights as a us citizen have been removed

the goverment is trampling all over the constitution and people are clapping and cheering USA USA USA

the founding fathers are rolling so fast in their graves they could be an alternate energy source


I've heard. Very scary indeed.

I don't think he's a citizen.


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21 Apr 2013, 9:42 pm

He is a citizen. He became a naturalized citizen - I think a year ago(?) - on 9/11.

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21 Apr 2013, 10:00 pm

The land of the free indeed. How easily they accepted "lockdown" for the sake of one person... Americans have the characteristics of a defeated people. It seems in fact that most of us in the West are.



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23 Apr 2013, 12:12 am

It does get murkey. America did support the Marsh Arabs, and the Kurds, for years before direct involvement in Iraq. For their acts against the state, they got killed, and the promissed aid did not come.

Georgia thought it had backing against Russia, All of the breakaway southern Russian states did get outside aid, including Chechnaya. The Russians kept Chechnaya, lots of people died,

Their history is being terrorist, taking hostages, children, bombings, blowing up trains. When the Russians pushed back, they died, fled, like this family that suddenly reloccated, and sent their sons to America.

They were promised support, just like the terrorists in Syria, who did not get the no fly zone, safe enclaves within Syria, or weapons promissed.

For fighting the Russians, Osama in Afganistan was promissed an Islamic country.

Sometimes these lies work, sometimes they come with payback.

This could be seen as political, I have no idea about people who shoot up schools, movies, or even a political rally.

No place in America was being as well photographed as the finish line, who planted the bomb will be shown. They seem well armed and prepared for being framed, bombs, guns, and the carjacking and robbery are not the work of innocent bystanders.

Now the uncle seems a government spokes person, somehow had the clout to get his brothers family into the US, who after a falling out, brother and wife went back, sons stayed, and the uncle says he had nothing to do with them.

So who was suppporting them?

The elder brother went back for six months, and some government notified the FBI, he should be watched. Maybe it was his uncle?

They all get out of Chechnaya when the Russians invade, then get papers to come to the US. That is not easy to do, unless you have friends.

We did support the break away republics, helped in breaking up the USSR, and had special friends in all of them. Some like Berzerkerstan the Russians were glad to see go, others they kept, and being a Chechnayan Freedom Fighter, was a dead end job.

After killing a hundred children in Moscow, their future was to be questioned, and to never be seen again. The Russians seem to be very good at getting answers, and more people to question.

Some say, that is how history happens, some say the CIA sold them out, some say Islam loves you.

Keeping up the pressure close to home made it much easier for East Germany to rejoin the west, and all those eastern Europeans, free of the Iron Curtine, now broke, and in debt. Now they have Euros, that they can pay the Russians for gas. They were allowed to sell Bonds, and are now in eturnal debt servitude.

So they struck a blow for Chechnaya, a wasted effort, and badly done.

Many Chechnayan bombers have been discovered when their bomb blew up their apartment. Their small group actions mostly end with them all dead, or being questioned by the Russians.

Their victories have been against women and children, and bombing trains and airports. They might as well die in the act, because they are not good at getting away with it.

Multiculturalism at work, domestic nuts were not enough, so lets import exotic nuts.

We are stuck with this world, but perhaps we should send all the new ones to Florida for ten years. If they survive, maybe let them into the rest of the country.

An illegal killed a motorcyclist here, they kill and maim as many a day. We have other more pressing problems.



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23 Apr 2013, 3:07 pm

Yeltsin installed the separatists in power in Chechnya and then decided to destroy the autonomous republic because he was told this would be his Falklands War that would ensure his re-election and lock in neoliberal reforms as happened in Britain. Worst leader ever.



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23 Apr 2013, 3:12 pm

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The land of the free indeed. How easily they accepted "lockdown" for the sake of one person... Americans have the characteristics of a defeated people. It seems in fact that most of us in the West are.


The americans are so defeated that the local cops took these Chechens down and Charlie was riding the MTA the day after.

My soon who lives in Newton, just outside of Boston assures me all is back to normal. The subways are running and the politicians are taking the usual bribes. The Catholic priests are back to abusing the altar boys. In short, everything is back to normal.

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23 Apr 2013, 3:45 pm

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The two prime suspects (one of them shot dead by police) are from Chechnaya and you guessed it! They are Muslim.



Funny how its always a Jew that makes sure we blame their enemies, the Muslims, for any terrorist attack, just to ensure the West spends blood and money on doing Israels dirty work for her.

Whereas its generally Jews that are the terrorists, they just happen to be even more evil in that they dont even own up to it but blame it on others. Just ask the crew of the USS Liberty.

Whos behind this piece of theater remains to be seen, whilst the Blackwater operatives have been identified as the ones placing the bomb, it will be hard to know whos behind it.
The end result however will be even more of a Police State for America.

Heres a few oddities worth looking at:-



ABC NEWS CLIP



LINK, SUSPECT HAD WHITE BACKPACK IN ALL PICTURES, NOT BLACK

LINK NEWS FEED AROUND 2:30 COMMISSIONER CALLS SIUSPECTS ACTORS

Just as with 911 and 77, of course there were the usual indicators of an inside job, "Terror Drills" LINK

LINK



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23 Apr 2013, 4:01 pm

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I doubt these kids were in any way connected with actual Chechen militants. Sounds like a case of home grown internet indoctrinated jihadists.


I've seen reports that the way they built the bombs showed a sophistication that they would not likely have learned without help from others.



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23 Apr 2013, 4:07 pm

CSBurks wrote:
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Anyone who would show any sympathy for those two terrorists may as well be a terrorist himself.

Massachusetts does not have an enforceable death penalty statute, having been struck down by court ruling in 1984.

He is likely to spend his remaining days in prison, so for now give Dzhokhar just enough lidocaine to get a full confession from him, but otherwise show the dog no mercy for the rest of his miserable life.


Isn't terrorism a federal crime? Can't he be executed for that?


Two federal charges were filed against him on Monday. A conviction on either of the two charges can be punishable by death.



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23 Apr 2013, 4:11 pm

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My perception of infowars.com is such that I would not use it as a source and I do not consider it to be reliable when presented by others as a source.



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23 Apr 2013, 4:14 pm

chris5000 wrote:
CSBurks wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Anyone who would show any sympathy for those two terrorists may as well be a terrorist himself.

Massachusetts does not have an enforceable death penalty statute, having been struck down by court ruling in 1984.

He is likely to spend his remaining days in prison, so for now give Dzhokhar just enough lidocaine to get a full confession from him, but otherwise show the dog no mercy for the rest of his miserable life.


Isn't terrorism a federal crime? Can't he be executed for that?


hes not even getting a trail thanks to the national defense authorization act

he did not have his Miranda rights read
he wont get a trial
he does not have the right to remain silent or have a lawyer
basically all his rights as a us citizen have been removed

the goverment is trampling all over the constitution and people are clapping and cheering USA USA USA

the founding fathers are rolling so fast in their graves they could be an alternate energy source
There is no need to read the Miranda rights to any suspect when you already have overwhelming evidence by which to convict them. Failing to read his Miranda rights to him has no downside when you do not need a statement or confession by the suspect to gain a conviction.

I'm quite sure that he will receive a trial. I don't know if there are any jurisdictions in the United States that will permit you to plead guilty to a capital offense.



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23 Apr 2013, 4:41 pm

Regarding the charges filed on Monday, they are:

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18 U.S.C. s 2332a(a) Use of a Weapon of Mass Destruction
18 U.S.C. s 844(i) Malicious Destruction of Property Resulting in Death


The text of the criminal complaint is:
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I, Daniel R. Genck, being duly sworn, depose and state:

1. I am a Special Agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation ("FBI") and have been so employed since 2009. I am currently assigned to one of the Boston Field Office's Counter-terrorism Squads. Among other things, I am responsible for conducting national security investigations of potential violations of federal criminal laws as a member of the Joint Terrorism Task Force ("JTTF"). During my tenure as an agent, I have participated in numerous national security investigations. I have received extensive training and experience in the conduct of national security investigations, and those matters involving domestic and international terrorism.

2. During my employment with the FBI, I have conducted and participated in many investigations involving violations of United States laws relating to the provision of material support to terrorism. I have participated in the execution of numerous federal search and arrest warrants in such investigations. I have had extensive training in many methods used to commit acts of terrorism contrary to United States law.

3. This affidavit is submitted in support of an application for a complaint charging DZHOKHAR A. TSARNAEV of Cambridge, Massachusetts ("DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV") with using a weapon of mass destruction against persons and property at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013, resulting in death. More specifically, I submit this affidavit in support of an application for a complaint charging DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV with (1) unlawfully using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction (namely, an improvised explosive device) against persons and property within the United States used in interstate and foreign commerce and in an activity that affects interstate and foreign commerce, which offense and its results affected interstate and foreign commerce (including, but not limited to, the Boston Marathon, private businesses in Eastern Massachusetts, and the City of Boston itself), resulting in death, in violation of 18 U.S.c. § 2332a; and (2) maliciously damaging and destroying, by means of an explosive, real and personal property used in interstate and foreign commerce and in an activity affecting interstate and foreign commerce, resulting in personal injury and death, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 844(i).

4. This affidavit is based upon my personal involvement in this investigation, my training and experience, my review of relevant evidence, and information supplied to me by other law enforcement officers. It does not include each and every fact known to me about the investigation, but rather only those facts that I believe are sufficient to establish the requisite probable cause.

FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES

A. The Boston Marathon Explosions

5. The Boston Marathon is an annual race that attracts runners from all over the United States and the world. According to the Boston Athletic Association, which administers the Marathon, over 23,000 runners participated in this year's race. The Marathon has a substantial impact on interstate and foreign commerce. For example, based on publicly available information, I believe that the runners and their families -- including those who travel to the Boston area from other states and countries -- typically spend tens of millions of dollars each year at local area hotels, restaurants and shops, in the days before, during, and after the Marathon. In addition, a number of the restaurants and stores in the area near the finish line have special events for spectators.

6. The final stretch of the Boston Marathon runs eastward along the center of Boylston Street in Boston from Hereford Street to the finish line, which is located between Exeter and Dartmouth Streets. Low metal barriers line both edges of the street and separate the spectators from the runners. Many businesses line the streets of the Marathon route. In the area near the finish line, businesses are located on both sides ofBoylston Street, including restaurants, a department store, a hotel and various retail stores.

7. On April 15, 2013, at approximately 2:49 p.m., while the Marathon was still underway, two explosions occurred on the north side of Boylston Street along the Marathon's final stretch. The first explosion occurred in front of 671 Boylston Street and the second occurred approximately one block away in front of 755 Boylston Street. The explosive devices were placed near the metal barriers where hundreds of spectators were watching runners approach the finish line. Each explosion killed at least one person, maimed, burned and wounded scores of others, and damaged public and private property, including the streets, sidewalk, barriers, and property owned by people and businesses in the locations where the explosions occurred. In total, three people were killed and over two hundred individuals were injured.

8. The explosions had a substantial impact on interstate and foreign commerce. Among other things, they forced a premature end to the Marathon and the evacuation and temporary closure of numerous businesses along Boylston Street for several days.

B. Surveillance Evidence

9. I have reviewed videotape footage taken from a security camera located on Boylston Street near the comer of Boylston and Gloucester Streets. At approximately 2:38 p.m. (based on the video's duration and timing of the explosions) -- i.e., approximately I] minutes before the first explosion -- two young men can be seen turning left (eastward) onto Boylston from Gloucester Street. Both men are carrying large knapsacks. The first man, whom I refer to in this affidavit as Bomber One, is a young male, wearing a dark-colored baseball cap, sunglasses, a white shirt, dark coat, and tan pants. The second man, whom I refer to in this affidavit as Bomber Two, is a young male, wearing a white baseball cap backwards, a gray hooded sweatshirt, a lightweight black jacket, and dark pants. As set forth below, there is probable cause to believe that Bomber One is Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Bomber Two is his brother, DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV.

10. After turning onto Boylston Street, Bomber One and Bomber Two can be seen walking eastward along the north side of the sidewalk towards the Marathon finish line. Bomber One is in front and Bomber Two is a few feet behind him. Additional security camera video taken from a location farther east on Boylston Street, as well as contemporaneous photographs taken from across the street, show the men continuing to walk together eastward along Boylston Street towards Fairfield Street.

11. I have also reviewed video footage taken from a security camera affixed above the doorway of the Forum Restaurant located at 755 Boylston Street, which was the site of the second explosion. This camera is located approximately midway between Fairfield and Exeter Streets and points out in the direction of Boylston and is turned slightly towards Fairfield. At approximately 2:41 p.m. (based on the video's duration and the timing ofthe explosions), Bomber One and Bomber Two can be seen standing together approximately one half-block from the restaurant.

12. At approximately 2:42 p.m. (i.e., approximately seven minutes before the first explosion), Bomber One can be seen detaching himself from the crowd and walking east on Boylston Street towards the Marathon finish line. Approximately 15 seconds later, he can be seen passing directly in front of the Forum Restaurant and continuing in the direction of the location where the first explosion occurred. His knapsack is still on his back.

13. At approximately 2:45 p.m., Bomber Two can be seen detaching himself from the crowd and walking east on Boylston Street toward the Marathon finishing line. He appears to have the thumb ofhis right hand hooked under the strap of his knapsack and a cell phone in his left hand. Approximately 15 seconds later, he can be seen stopping directly in front of the Forum Restaurant and standing near the metal barrier among numerous spectators, with his back to the camera, facing the runners. He then can be seen apparently slipping his knapsack onto the ground. A photograph taken from the opposite side of the street shows the knapsack on the ground at Bomber Two's feet.

14. The Forum Restaurant video shows that Bomber Two remained in the same spot for approximately four minutes, occasionally looking at his cell phone and once appearing to take a picture with it. At some point he appears to look at his phone, which is held at approximately waist level, and may be manipulating the phone. Approximately 30 seconds before the first explosion, he lifts his phone to his ear as if he is speaking on his cell phone, and keeps it there for approximately 18 seconds. A few seconds after he finishes the call, the large crowd of people around him can be seen reacting to the first explosion. Virtually every head turns to the east (towards the finish line) and stares in that direction in apparent bewilderment and alarm. Bomber Two, virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant, appears calm. He glances to the east and then calmly but rapidly begins moving to the west, away from the direction of the finish line. He walks away without his knapsack, having left it on the ground where he had been standing. Approximately 10 seconds later, an explosion occurs in the location where Bomber Two had placed his knapsack.

15. I have observed video and photographic footage of the location where the second explosion occurred from a number of different viewpoints and angles, including from directly across the street. I can discern nothing in that location in the period before the explosion might have caused that explosion, other than Bomber Two's knapsack.

C. Photographic Identifications

16. I have compared a Massachusetts Registry ofMotor Vehicles ("RMV") photograph of DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV with photographic and video images of Bomber Two, and I believe, based on their close physical resemblance, there is probable cause that they arc one and the same person. Similarly, J have compared an RMV photograph of Tamerlan Tsarnaev with photographic and video images of Bomber One, and I likewise believe that they are one and the same person.

D. The Bombers Emerge

17. I base the allegations set forth in paragraphs 18 through 27 on information that has been provided to me by fellow law enforcement officers, including members ofthe JTTF and state and local law enforcement who responded to the crime scenes, as well as on publicly available information that I deem reliable.

18. At approximately 5:00 p.m. on April 18, 2013, the FBI published video and photographic images of Bomber One and Bomber Two on its web site. Those images were widely rebroadcast by media outlets all over the country and the world.

19. Near midnight on April 18,2013, an individual carjacked a vehicle at gunpoint in Cambridge, Massachusetts. A victim of the carjacking was interviewed by law enforcement and provided the following information. The victim stated that while he was sitting in his car on a road in Cambridge, a man approached and tapped on his passenger-side window. When the victim rolled down the window, the man reached in, opened the door, and entered the victim's vehicle. The man pointed a firearm at the victim and stated, "Did you hear about the Boston explosion?" and "I did that." The man removed the magazine from his gun and showed the victim that it had a bullet in it, and then re-inserted the magazine. The man then stated, "I am serious."

20. The man with the gun forced the victim to drive to another location, where they picked up a second man. The two men put something in the trunk of the victim's vehicle. The man with the gun took the victim's keys and sat in the driver's seat, while the victim moved to the front passenger seat. The second man entered the victim's vehicle and sat in the rear passenger seat. The man with the gun and the second man spoke to each other in a foreign language.

21. While they were driving, the man with the gun demanded money from the victim, who gave the man 45 dollars. One of the men compelled the victim to hand over his ATM card and password. They then drove to an ATM machine and attempted to withdraw money from the victim's account. The two men and the victim then drove to a gas station/convenience store in the vicinity of816 Memorial Drive, Cambridge. The two men got out of the car, at which point the victim managed to escape.

22. A short time later, the stolen vehicle was located by law enforcement in Watertown, Massachusetts. As the men drove down Dexter Street in Watertown, they threw at least two small improvised explosive devices ("IEDs") out of the car. A gun fight ensued between the car's occupants and law enforcement officers in which numerous shots were fired. One ofthe men was severely injured and remained at the scene; the other managed to escape in the car. That car was later found abandoned a short distance away, and an intact low-grade explosive device was discovered inside it. In addition, from the scene of the shootout on Laurel Street in Watertown, the FBI has recovered two unexploded IEDs, as well as the remnants of numerous exploded IEDs.

E. Identification of the Carjackers

23. I have reviewed images of two men taken at approximately 12:17 a.m. by a security camera at the ATM and the gas station/convenience store where the two carjackers drove with the victim in his car. Based on the men's close physical resemblance to RMV photos of Tamerlan and DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV, I believe the two men who carjacked, kidnapped, and robbed the victim are Tamerlan and DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV. In addition, the carjacker who was severely injured during the shoot-out in Watertown was taken to Beth Israel Hospital, where he was pronounced dead. FBI fingerprint analysis confirms that he is Tamerlan Tsamaev, and the man's face matches the RMV photograph of Tamerlan Tsamaev. RMV records indicate that Tamerlan Tsamaev and DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV share the same address on Norfolk Street in Cambridge, Massachusetts. According to Department of Homeland Security immigration records, Tamerlan Tsarnaev and DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV are brothers. Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a Lawful Permanent Resident. DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV entered the United States on April 12, 2002, and is a naturalized U.S. citizen.

F. Preliminary Examination of the Explosives

24. A preliminary examination of the remains of the explosive devices that were used at the Boston Marathon revealed that they were low-grade explosives that were housed in pressure cookers. Both pressure cookers were of the same brand. The pressure cookers also contained metallic BBs and nails. Many of the BBs were contained within an adhesive material. The explosives contained green-colored hobby fuse.

25. A preliminary examination of the explosive devices that were discovered at the scene of the shootout in Watertown and in the abandoned vehicle has revealed similarities to the explosives used at the Boston Marathon. The remnants of at least one of the exploded IEDs at the scene of the shootout indicate that a low-grade explosive had been contained in a pressure cooker. The pressure cooker was of the same brand as the ones used in the Marathon explosions. The explosive also contained metallic BBs contained within an adhesive material as well as green-colored hobby fuse. The intact low-grade explosive device found in the abandoned car was in a plastic container and wrapped with green-colored hobby fuse.

G. DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV is Located

26. On the evening of April 19, 2013, police investigation revealed that there was an individual in a covered boat located at 67 Franklin Street in Watertown. After a stand-off between the boat's occupant and the police involving gunfire, the individual was removed from the boat and searched. A University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth identification card, credit cards, and other forms of identification were found in his pockets. All of them identified the man as DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV. He had visible injuries, including apparent gunshot wounds to the head, neck, legs, and hand. DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV's wounds were triaged and he was brought to an area hospital, where he remains for medical treatment.

27. On April 21, 2013, the FBI searched DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV's dormitory room at 7341 Pine Dale Hall at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, pursuant to a search warrant. The FBI seized from his room, among other things, a large pyrotechnic, a black jacket and a white hat of the same general appearance as those worn by Bomber Two at the Boston Marathon on April 15,2013, and BBs.

CONCLUSION

28. Based on the foregoing, there is probable cause to believe that on or about April 15, 2013, DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV violated 18 U.S.C. §§ 2332a (using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction, resulting in death) and 844(i) (malicious destruction of property by means of an explosive device, resulting in death). Accordingly, I respectfully request that the Court issue a complaint charging DZHOKHAR TSARNAEV with those crimes.


And the text of the law being charged is:

18 U.S.C. s 2332a(a):
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18 USC § 2332a - Use of weapons of mass destruction

(a) Offense Against a National of the United States or Within the United States.— A person who, without lawful authority, uses, threatens, or attempts or conspires to use, a weapon of mass destruction—

(1) against a national of the United States while such national is outside of the United States;

(2) against any person or property within the United States, and

(A) the mail or any facility of interstate or foreign commerce is used in furtherance of the offense;

(B) such property is used in interstate or foreign commerce or in an activity that affects interstate or foreign commerce;

(C) any perpetrator travels in or causes another to travel in interstate or foreign commerce in furtherance of the offense; or

(D) the offense, or the results of the offense, affect interstate or foreign commerce, or, in the case of a threat, attempt, or conspiracy, would have affected interstate or foreign commerce;

(3) against any property that is owned, leased or used by the United States or by any department or agency of the United States, whether the property is within or outside of the United States; or

(4) against any property within the United States that is owned, leased, or used by a foreign government,

shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life, and if death results, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life.

(b) Offense by National of the United States Outside of the United States.— Any national of the United States who, without lawful authority, uses, or threatens, attempts, or conspires to use, a weapon of mass destruction outside of the United States shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life, and if death results, shall be punished by death, or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

(c) Definitions.— For purposes of this section—

(1) the term “national of the United States” has the meaning given in section 101(a)(22) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(22));

(2) the term “weapon of mass destruction” means—

(A) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this title;

(B) any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors;

(C) any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms are defined in section 178 of this title); or

(D) any weapon that is designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life; and

(3) the term “property” includes all real and personal property.


18 U.S.C. s 844(i):
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18 USC § 844 - Penalties

(a) Any person who—

(1) violates any of subsections (a) through (i) or (l) through (o) ofsection 842 shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both; and

(2) violates subsection (p)(2) ofsection 842, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

(b) Any person who violates any other provision of section 842 of this chapter shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

(c)
(1) Any explosive materials involved or used or intended to be used in any violation of the provisions of this chapter or any other rule or regulation promulgated thereunder or any violation of any criminal law of the United States shall be subject to seizure and forfeiture, and all provisions of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 relating to the seizure, forfeiture, and disposition of firearms, as defined in section 5845(a) of that Code, shall, so far as applicable, extend to seizures and forfeitures under the provisions of this chapter.

(2) Notwithstanding paragraph (1), in the case of the seizure of any explosive materials for any offense for which the materials would be subject to forfeiture in which it would be impracticable or unsafe to remove the materials to a place of storage or would be unsafe to store them, the seizing officer may destroy the explosive materials forthwith. Any destruction under this paragraph shall be in the presence of at least 1 credible witness. The seizing officer shall make a report of the seizure and take samples as the Attorney General may by regulation prescribe.
(3) Within 60 days after any destruction made pursuant to paragraph (2), the owner of (including any person having an interest in) the property so destroyed may make application to the Attorney General for reimbursement of the value of the property. If the claimant establishes to the satisfaction of the Attorney General that—

(A) the property has not been used or involved in a violation of law; or

(B) any unlawful involvement or use of the property was without the claimant’s knowledge, consent, or willful blindness,
the Attorney General shall make an allowance to the claimant not exceeding the value of the property destroyed.

(d) Whoever transports or receives, or attempts to transport or receive, in interstate or foreign commerce any explosive with the knowledge or intent that it will be used to kill, injure, or intimidate any individual or unlawfully to damage or destroy any building, vehicle, or other real or personal property, shall be imprisoned for not more than ten years, or fined under this title, or both; and if personal injury results to any person, including any public safety officer performing duties as a direct or proximate result of conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be imprisoned for not more than twenty years or fined under this title, or both; and if death results to any person, including any public safety officer performing duties as a direct or proximate result of conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be subject to imprisonment for any term of years, or to the death penalty or to life imprisonment.

(e) Whoever, through the use of the mail, telephone, telegraph, or other instrument of interstate or foreign commerce, or in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, willfully makes any threat, or maliciously conveys false information knowing the same to be false, concerning an attempt or alleged attempt being made, or to be made, to kill, injure, or intimidate any individual or unlawfully to damage or destroy any building, vehicle, or other real or personal property by means of fire or an explosive shall be imprisoned for not more than 10 years or fined under this title, or both.

(f)
(1) Whoever maliciously damages or destroys, or attempts to damage or destroy, by means of fire or an explosive, any building, vehicle, or other personal or real property in whole or in part owned or possessed by, or leased to, the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or any institution or organization receiving Federal financial assistance, shall be imprisoned for not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, fined under this title, or both.

(2) Whoever engages in conduct prohibited by this subsection, and as a result of such conduct, directly or proximately causes personal injury or creates a substantial risk of injury to any person, including any public safety officer performing duties, shall be imprisoned for not less than 7 years and not more than 40 years, fined under this title, or both.

(3) Whoever engages in conduct prohibited by this subsection, and as a result of such conduct directly or proximately causes the death of any person, including any public safety officer performing duties, shall be subject to the death penalty, or imprisoned for not less than 20 years or for life, fined under this title, or both.

(g)
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), whoever possesses an explosive in an airport that is subject to the regulatory authority of the Federal Aviation Administration, or in any building in whole or in part owned, possessed, or used by, or leased to, the United States or any department or agency thereof, except with the written consent of the agency, department, or other person responsible for the management of such building or airport, shall be imprisoned for not more than five years, or fined under this title, or both.

(2) The provisions of this subsection shall not be applicable to—

(A) the possession of ammunition (as that term is defined in regulations issued pursuant to this chapter) in an airport that is subject to the regulatory authority of the Federal Aviation Administration if such ammunition is either in checked baggage or in a closed container; or

(B) the possession of an explosive in an airport if the packaging and transportation of such explosive is exempt from, or subject to and in accordance with, regulations of the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration for the handling of hazardous materials pursuant to chapter 51 of title 49.

(h) Whoever—

(1) uses fire or an explosive to commit any felony which may be prosecuted in a court of the United States, or

(2) carries an explosive during the commission of any felony which may be prosecuted in a court of the United States,

including a felony which provides for an enhanced punishment if committed by the use of a deadly or dangerous weapon or device shall, in addition to the punishment provided for such felony, be sentenced to imprisonment for 10 years. In the case of a second or subsequent conviction under this subsection, such person shall be sentenced to imprisonment for 20 years. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the court shall not place on probation or suspend the sentence of any person convicted of a violation of this subsection, nor shall the term of imprisonment imposed under this subsection run concurrently with any other term of imprisonment including that imposed for the felony in which the explosive was used or carried.

(i) Whoever maliciously damages or destroys, or attempts to damage or destroy, by means of fire or an explosive, any building, vehicle, or other real or personal property used in interstate or foreign commerce or in any activity affecting interstate or foreign commerce shall be imprisoned for not less than 5 years and not more than 20 years, fined under this title, or both; and if personal injury results to any person, including any public safety officer performing duties as a direct or proximate result of conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be imprisoned for not less than 7 years and not more than 40 years, fined under this title, or both; and if death results to any person, including any public safety officer performing duties as a direct or proximate result of conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall also be subject to imprisonment for any term of years, or to the death penalty or to life imprisonment.

(j) For the purposes of subsections (d), (e), (f), (g), (h), and (i) of this section and section 842 (p), the term “explosive” means gunpowders, powders used for blasting, all forms of high explosives, blasting materials, fuzes (other than electric circuit breakers), detonators, and other detonating agents, smokeless powders, other explosive or incendiary devices within the meaning of paragraph (5) of section 232 of this title, and any chemical compounds, mechanical mixture, or device that contains any oxidizing and combustible units, or other ingredients, in such proportions, quantities, or packing that ignition by fire, by friction, by concussion, by percussion, or by detonation of the compound, mixture, or device or any part thereof may cause an explosion.

(k) A person who steals any explosives materials which are moving as, or are a part of, or which have moved in, interstate or foreign commerce shall be imprisoned for not more than 10 years, fined under this title, or both.

(l) A person who steals any explosive material from a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer, or from any permittee shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.

(m) A person who conspires to commit an offense under subsection (h) shall be imprisoned for any term of years not exceeding 20, fined under this title, or both.

(n) Except as otherwise provided in this section, a person who conspires to commit any offense defined in this chapter shall be subject to the same penalties (other than the penalty of death) as the penalties prescribed for the offense the commission of which was the object of the conspiracy.

(o) Whoever knowingly transfers any explosive materials, knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such explosive materials will be used to commit a crime of violence (as defined in section 924 (c)(3)) or drug trafficking crime (as defined in section 924 (c)(2)) shall be subject to the same penalties as may be imposed under subsection (h) for a first conviction for the use or carrying of an explosive material.

(p) Theft Reporting Requirement.—

(1) In general.— A holder of a license or permit who knows that explosive materials have been stolen from that licensee or permittee, shall report the theft to the Secretary [1] not later than 24 hours after the discovery of the theft.

(2) Penalty.— A holder of a license or permit who does not report a theft in accordance with paragraph (1), shall be fined not more than $10,000, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.


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23 Apr 2013, 4:55 pm

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It does get murkey. America did support the Marsh Arabs, and the Kurds, for years before direct involvement in Iraq. For their acts against the state, they got killed, and the promissed aid did not come.

Georgia thought it had backing against Russia, All of the breakaway southern Russian states did get outside aid, including Chechnaya. The Russians kept Chechnaya, lots of people died,

Their history is being terrorist, taking hostages, children, bombings, blowing up trains. When the Russians pushed back, they died, fled, like this family that suddenly reloccated, and sent their sons to America.

They were promised support, just like the terrorists in Syria, who did not get the no fly zone, safe enclaves within Syria, or weapons promissed.

For fighting the Russians, Osama in Afganistan was promissed an Islamic country.

Sometimes these lies work, sometimes they come with payback.

This could be seen as political, I have no idea about people who shoot up schools, movies, or even a political rally.

No place in America was being as well photographed as the finish line, who planted the bomb will be shown. They seem well armed and prepared for being framed, bombs, guns, and the carjacking and robbery are not the work of innocent bystanders.

Now the uncle seems a government spokes person, somehow had the clout to get his brothers family into the US, who after a falling out, brother and wife went back, sons stayed, and the uncle says he had nothing to do with them.

So who was suppporting them?

The elder brother went back for six months, and some government notified the FBI, he should be watched. Maybe it was his uncle?

They all get out of Chechnaya when the Russians invade, then get papers to come to the US. That is not easy to do, unless you have friends.

We did support the break away republics, helped in breaking up the USSR, and had special friends in all of them. Some like Berzerkerstan the Russians were glad to see go, others they kept, and being a Chechnayan Freedom Fighter, was a dead end job.

After killing a hundred children in Moscow, their future was to be questioned, and to never be seen again. The Russians seem to be very good at getting answers, and more people to question.

Some say, that is how history happens, some say the CIA sold them out, some say Islam loves you.

Keeping up the pressure close to home made it much easier for East Germany to rejoin the west, and all those eastern Europeans, free of the Iron Curtine, now broke, and in debt. Now they have Euros, that they can pay the Russians for gas. They were allowed to sell Bonds, and are now in eturnal debt servitude.

So they struck a blow for Chechnaya, a wasted effort, and badly done.

Many Chechnayan bombers have been discovered when their bomb blew up their apartment. Their small group actions mostly end with them all dead, or being questioned by the Russians.

Their victories have been against women and children, and bombing trains and airports. They might as well die in the act, because they are not good at getting away with it.

Multiculturalism at work, domestic nuts were not enough, so lets import exotic nuts.

We are stuck with this world, but perhaps we should send all the new ones to Florida for ten years. If they survive, maybe let them into the rest of the country.

An illegal killed a motorcyclist here, they kill and maim as many a day. We have other more pressing problems.


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