americans, how do you feel about being an american?

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Americans, how do you feel about being an American?
Ashamed, due to the military incursions in the mideast. 29%  29%  [ 27 ]
Ashamed, for other reasons. 20%  20%  [ 19 ]
Proud, because of our military might and power. 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Proud, for other reasons. 29%  29%  [ 27 ]
Indifferent. 19%  19%  [ 18 ]
Total votes : 94

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23 Jan 2007, 4:09 pm

I am ashamed that the present American government is acting without regard to the Founding Fathers' admonishions against becoming an imperialistic nation. What we are doing there reeks of imperialism. So, I voted that I am ashamed due to the incursions in the Middle East.

I am also ashamed that healthcare is treated like a luxury in the U.S. and taxation policies that are effectively eroding the middle class.



23 Jan 2007, 10:28 pm

I'm proud to be an American. I don't support our government or the war. I'm just proud that I am because it's who I am and I was born and raised in this country and its my home.



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23 Jan 2007, 10:36 pm

You know the founding fathers are rolling in their graves today at the mess our government is in....another reason why I support the Constitution Party (constitutionparty.org ??? and it's similar in a way to the Libertarian)...it just makes sense.....



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I am ashamed that the present American government is acting without regard to the Founding Fathers' admonishions against becoming an imperialistic nation. What we are doing there reeks of imperialism. So, I voted that I am ashamed due to the incursions in the Middle East.

I am also ashamed that healthcare is treated like a luxury in the U.S. and taxation policies that are effectively eroding the middle class.


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23 Jan 2007, 11:35 pm

Yeah, I agree. Have you heard of the Vote None of the Above campaign?

http://www.votenoneoftheabove.us/

Pretty interesting.


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24 Jan 2007, 1:06 am

I, for one, am proud to be an American. As for what the gang in Washington does in my name, I am deeply ashamed. I did not ask them to bomb innocent civilians, I did not send our kids over there to die, I did not decide to dominate the world. The gang in Washington did. On the other hand, we still have a voice, and those of us who are ashamed enough of the people who are fouling the rest of the world in our name can still band together to throw them out of office, jail those of them who have stolen our money, and demand that "we broke it, now we need to go and make it right."

Is that going to happen? Some of it. The rest, well, we are only a tiny bit worse than some of the rest of the world, and a lot less culpable than some others.



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24 Jan 2007, 5:35 am

Things are bad and getting worse.

It's highly unlikely we'll see improvement in the near future. The world seems to be teetering on the brink of disaster.



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24 Jan 2007, 8:51 pm

I've always felt much more American than lime, uhm, British, despite being born in UK. *wondering how to escape UK in favour of US*



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24 Jan 2007, 9:35 pm

andy1976uk wrote:
I've always felt much more American than lime, uhm, British, despite being born in UK. *wondering how to escape UK in favour of US*

first, you have to stop spelling favor with a u :D



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24 Jan 2007, 9:39 pm

headphase wrote:
andy1976uk wrote:
I've always felt much more American than lime, uhm, British, despite being born in UK. *wondering how to escape UK in favour of US*

first, you have to stop spelling favor with a u :D


:lol: I was actually thinking that as I was writing my post. :D



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24 Jan 2007, 11:59 pm

I'm definately proud regardless of the fact that I'm not fond of our current administration (at this point, who is?) Although I'm fascinated with Europe culturally, I don't think Europeans have much of a right or a reference point to attach stereotypes to us.



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25 Jan 2007, 12:01 am

maldoror wrote:
I'm definately proud regardless of the fact that I'm not fond of our current administration (at this point, who is?) Although I'm fascinated with Europe culturally, I don't think Europeans have much of a right or a reference point to attach stereotypes to us.


A lot of Europeans seem to have an inferiority complex when it comes to the US. I think we should just stop whining and try to emulate the best characteristics of your country and get ourselves out of this stupid rut.



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26 Jan 2007, 5:11 pm

i fail to understand why anyone would be proud of coming from a particular country. it's only where you live, what is the big deal? we are all citizens of earth after all.


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26 Jan 2007, 6:30 pm

Even though I am from Australia I recently went to America and whildt the landscape etc is nice I strongly dislike some of their puratanical over the top rules such as the 21 drinking age. This simply encourages people to go underground and teaches a distain for the law here in Australia our drinking age is 18 and it works fine.



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26 Jan 2007, 10:52 pm

Catster2 wrote:
Even though I am from Australia I recently went to America and whildt the landscape etc is nice I strongly dislike some of their puratanical over the top rules such as the 21 drinking age. This simply encourages people to go underground and teaches a distain for the law here in Australia our drinking age is 18 and it works fine.

I love the USA, even with its warts (ie, the over-the-top attention to 'vice' issues such as the Drug War and the 21YO drinking age, its uncomprehendible taxation mess, use of miles, inches, degrees 'F' and gallons instead of kilometers, millimeters, degrees 'C' and liters, 'Pennies' and lack of high-value coinage, über-slow highway speed limits and 'Deputy Dawg' enforcement thereof, etc).

Also, the USA is an incredibly vast and varied nation that respects and embraces its local flavors and its Federal system is formulated in a way that allows it to flourish. Each of its 50 states and several non-state territories is very different from all of the rest, yet it is all one nation.

Just the fact that we have been and continue to be a beacon to the rest of the world, especially in time of war, and a continual immigration draw means that we must be doing something right, despite what the World's lefty crowd thinks.

(The 'Gate Theory' - open the border gates and see what direction the people flow.)

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27 Jan 2007, 8:27 pm

peebo wrote:
i fail to understand why anyone would be proud of coming from a particular country. it's only where you live, what is the big deal? we are all citizens of earth after all.
I agree.


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30 Jan 2007, 11:06 am

I had a professor who said it best: "People come to America to make money, not love each other".

I feel that Americans feel very detached from one another because the only thing we have in common is greed, unlike Canada for instance where most people share a common ancestry and world view. I personally feel I have almost nothing in common with the other people I live around. This is why people here don't care about income gaps btw rich and poor, welfare, historic greivences against minority rights, or that the US ranks lowest among the Western Nations in things like life expectancy and education.

People here allowed slavery for 300 years to make money, systematically stole land from the Native Americans and Mexico, and held lynchings during after church picnics on Sunday afternoon. That's just the way it is here. :cry: