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26 Jan 2007, 6:42 pm

So, no-one objects to the rape scene against a ten-year old black girl in A Time To Kill?

I haven't heard anything about THAT little number escape your lips.

If you don't think much of that, you have double standards, Prof.

Very distasteful subject, this....


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29 Jan 2007, 11:59 am

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So, no-one objects to the rape scene against a ten-year old black girl in A Time To Kill?

I haven't heard anything about THAT little number escape your lips.

If you don't think much of that, you have double standards, Prof.

Very distasteful subject, this....


Yes, it is a very distasteful subject, that's why I brought it up ! ! I thought it would be an opportunity for our community to comment on how children are exploited in mainstream films.

As to your question: I've looked up "A Time to Kill", but so far I haven't found any information on the actress who played the young girl. The synopses I've read say the character is protrayed as being 10 years old, (as you said) but no comment on how old the actress really was at that time. I doubt she was actually 10 years old.
Since I haven't seen it, I don't know how the rape is portrayed onscreen. But I assure you I'm not racist. I simply have never seen this film. There is a difference in the two movies. In "A Time to Kill" the rape sets in motion a series of events, and makes it clear that such things aren't tolerated. But "Hounddog" shows no consequences for the rape, and according to Fox News, the girl never even talks about it. The scriptwriter (I think) stated that she had been trying to get this movie made for years (! !) Which brings up the question of "Why?" It's a bad movie with a bad script.


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29 Jan 2007, 5:47 pm

Regardless, (and I do think that you are right about how the scene in Hounddog doesn't lead to consequences. The scene in A Time to Kill, if I remember from seeing part of it years ago, was shown from the girl's POV) one wonders how Dakota Fanning got conned into it in the first place. Her parents, apparently being upstanding Christians (I shudder when I hear that word in any bad context), are real showbiz parents, from what I've heard. Makes you wonder.

I am going to reserve judgement on this movie, mostly because I ain't going to watch it. I'll leave it to the reviewers to soil themselves watching this movie.


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29 Jan 2007, 6:30 pm

I think it shows Dakota's versatility with acting if anything.


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29 Jan 2007, 6:40 pm

Well, looks like the media has found yet another excuse to show underage porn...



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29 Jan 2007, 7:46 pm

What it boils down to, is we must ask ourselves: "What do you consider "Entertainment?" :roll:


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29 Jan 2007, 9:38 pm

hartzofspace wrote:
What it boils down to, is we must ask ourselves: "What do you consider "Entertainment?" :roll:


Last night, I compared Soap Operas, full of death and destruction and incest at almost every turn, and then I thought about some of the stuff the Romans put on. There's only technically a few degrees between...


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30 Jan 2007, 7:20 am

Quatermass wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
What it boils down to, is we must ask ourselves: "What do you consider "Entertainment?" :roll:


Last night, I compared Soap Operas, full of death and destruction and incest at almost every turn, and then I thought about some of the stuff the Romans put on. There's only technically a few degrees between...


Quite so, well put ! !

As to Houngddog, according to what I've read, we'll probably never see it at the theater. Most likely it'll go directly to video.


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30 Jan 2007, 5:48 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
What it boils down to, is we must ask ourselves: "What do you consider "Entertainment?" :roll:


Last night, I compared Soap Operas, full of death and destruction and incest at almost every turn, and then I thought about some of the stuff the Romans put on. There's only technically a few degrees between...


Quite so, well put ! !



I thank you. Something some people should remember: when Romans did stage dramas, and a death was called for, they sometimes had a criminal brought out and killed. And of course, in the arena, there was the raping of women by various animals.

I read an interesting example in "The Way of the Gladiator". First, a rather boring (by Roman standards) Greek musician was brought onto a special faux mountain in the arena while it was flooded to a few feet in depth. When the Romans started to boo, a barge full of half-naked women (I kid you not) accompanied his song, getting the audience's attention. Then, wild beasts were released onto the mountain, which devoured said musician, much to the audience's, and the barge girls', sadistic delight. However, not only had crocs and hippos been released into the water, but the barge was designed to fall apart and sink. Sink or swim became the order of the day, but most of them got eaten by the various animals. None were actually spared. Goes to show, doesn't it?


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03 Feb 2007, 8:40 pm

Whether the little actor liked it or not I don't think it should have been shown in acting to this girl.


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04 Feb 2007, 8:11 am

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Reminds me of the young Jodie Foster in "Taxi driver". John
hinkleys obession for her after watching that movie lead to the
attempted assassnation of president Reagan.


His mental instability caused all of that. Not the movie, Jodie Foster, or Ronald Reagan.



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04 Feb 2007, 8:14 am

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Whether the little actor liked it or not I don't think it should have been shown in acting to this girl.


The good thing is that nobody will see this movie that doesn't want to see it, even with the MPAA. They don't even have to rate the movie if they don't want to. So nobody in the world has to see it if they don't want to.

If any laws were broken, I would have thought that would've been taken care of at the time. I doubt they would've taken the chance that they would get burned over this, else it would have been out.



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04 Feb 2007, 8:20 am

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Well, here's the latest. It would seem that sanity has prevailed. No distributers have offered to purchase the movie. Here's the link:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,246698,00.html


Perhaps child rape is still too hot a topic for people to handle. (I certainly hope so.)


You would hope so, but the subject has practically achieved media saturation, it's been on Dr. Phil, Oprah, and especially Dateline, it's been on just about every weekly crime drama repeatedly, and really, people haven't shut up about it in the last thirty years or so. I don't understand what has set off the current flap except maybe some kind of collective amnesia because the subject isn't rare and shocking. It's been flogged to death and placed on display everywhere.

We're talking about an America where a mainstream cable channel shows gory deaths in painstaking and accurate-looking detail, turning schoolbuses into sloppy slaughterhouses and using graphic depictions of the destruction of the human body as entertainment.

Maybe people are just tired of hearing about it.



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05 Feb 2007, 2:47 am

If it showed Dakota going on a rampage against the rapist with a Katana near the end, then I may watch it. Maybe a shotgun...


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05 Feb 2007, 7:41 am

I've read two more reviews, and both rate it as one of the worst movies they've ever seen. One reviewer wrote that the writer of this movie wanted to tackle really, really important themes, but had absolutely no clue how to do that. Both complained that for an audience to feel sorry for Dakota's character, she shouldn't walk around in her underwear for most of the movie (! !)

Unbelievable ! !


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05 Feb 2007, 6:08 pm

whats the big deal? its a MOVIE. a movie i wanna see for that matter.