A US government shut-down, will it happen?

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Will the US Federal Government avoid a shut-down?
Yes. They will come up with temporary measure at the 11th hour and just put the problem off for a little while longer. 50%  50%  [ 16 ]
Yes. They will reach a compromise to pass a budget for the good of the country. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No. They are too tied up in politics to even consider the implications of a shut-down. 34%  34%  [ 11 ]
No. They are too rich to give a crap. 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Yes. Other reasons. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
No. Other reasons. 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 32

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01 Oct 2013, 4:48 pm

I suspect this one will last a while.



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02 Oct 2013, 3:46 am

Dictionary.com defines treason as:
1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
I would say that acting to shut down the government falls under these two definitions. Since this group came into congress in 2010, no significant legislation has been passed... Since Boehner became speaker of the house. They did some trade bills and one that seemed to be based on a 60 minutes episode about insider trading.

The Federal Government is closed as of today... This is the 7th time in their 3 years that we have been in this situation, and today, they did it... This would be fine if it weren't for the fact that they ran for their positions on the promise of shutting down the government. They promised to do it again, like the last time they were in power after the 1994 election.

This how they ran for office and it is what they did as soon as they took office and they were PROUD OF IT...

"I am almost giddy thinking about a government shutdown next year. I cannot wait" ~Erick Erickson

"We're excited. We're united!" ~Michelle Bachman

"All good! It's all good. It's a good plan!" ~Robert Pittenger

"I said, like 9/11, 'Let's roll!'" ~John Culberson

So... they planned it... it was premeditated... Let's take a moment to look at the oaths they take when they take office...

The Oath of Office for congress.
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

Asshats taking the asshat oath.
I don't know about you, but the part that states "that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same" means that when you take office, you will do the job... Further, "that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter" literally means that I will do the job. By refusing to ratify a bill that funds the government for a year is clearly failing to do that job...

Now, think on this... They announced their intent to shut down the government as part of their campaign promises... Then they took an oath to perform (discharge) the duties of their office (of which, voting on this bill is a part of)... SO... They took the oath with mental reservations and purposes of evasion... Then they sabotaged the government...

So... Treason... Plain and simple... premeditated treason... Throw them into the federal courts... Which are currently closed... Get a conviction of treason on these liars. (In case you missed it, that was my point about the parts of the oath... they lied when they took the oath)...

Here's the problem... Congress decides what the punishment for treason is... That's right, you heard it... The treasonous vipers get to decide their own punishment... That duck will not fly...


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02 Oct 2013, 3:56 am

Treason is a crime against your country, not your government, usually betraying it in some way to a foreign state. Another lead balloon.


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02 Oct 2013, 5:48 am

The Government shut down, the Market went up.

Continued, this shutdown will reduce spending.

Nothing can be done about it, unless Obama uses a drone on the House, then The State Governors will replace them.

This can last till the 2014 elections.

Gridlock is good.



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02 Oct 2013, 6:23 am

As the government has shut down, this question is redundant and now that two other threads have appeared discussing the political fallout, I've locked this one and ask that the discussion is continued on these threads in PPR:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt241687.html - US gov't shut down at 12:01AM october 1, 2013
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt241678.html - The US Government Shut-Down - Whom to Blame


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