So parallel universes really do exist?

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It would be nice to do these same measurements deep in space, away from our galaxy, perhaps. How much would proximity to "wormholes," black holes, etc. affect the Laws Of Physics? Who knows? In order for these to be a conclusive answer, we must actually travel to these places.

As it stands now, we have to go with what we have.

We have many extant theories. Who knows? Maybe they are all correct--if various facets of theories are proven correct (i.e., "take one from Column A, three from Column B, two from Column C, etc).

"who here knows about how and why some of the smart set says that our universe is a holographic projection of a higher-dimensional reality"

Modern physics has managed to reduce everything to waves of one sort or another. Some waves are energy; some are stuff, but it's waves all the way down.

And waves exist, not of themselves, but as properties of aggregates. So an ocean wave is just information about all of the molecules of water beneath the wave. It's a thing made solely of information. Information that rides on the surface, above the real material of the water molecules, yet a physical, visible manifestation of information about the water molecules lying below the wave.

So when they talk about a holographic universe, they are talking about the surface of the universe (like the surface of a wave crest) and all of the information contained in it. In a hologram each data point has information about all the other points in the same spatial context, so the wave (the information) can act like a separate entity in space and time; a wave made up of all the information for all of the quarks, that make up all of the atoms, that make up all of the molecules, that make up the ocean wave.

Waves interact with waves via interference and create new waves which have the embedded information of the precursor waves that formed them. I like to think that human consciousness is a result of this sort of wave action in brain waves.

Human consciousness, of course, is an accumulation of axonal synapses at any given moment.

All sections of the brain (whether "primitive" or "advanced") help us to "interpret" this accumulation.

Our cognitive processes and accumulated knowledge also provide an essential assist.

Perhaps, within people with autism, the overall interpretation is somewhat out of the range of what is seen (whether objectively or subjectively) as "normal."

This is why people with autism are able to promulgate theories which "neurotypicals" cannot; their "interpretation" is based on parameters which "neurotypicals" might not possess.

There is not an iota of empirical evidence to corroborate the many-worlds hypothesis.. Not a crumb of evidence.
For a hypothesis to be even considered it must be tested empirically.

ruveyn

The only way to empirically test these theories is to actually go out in space.

Note: I'm a lover of the Scientific Method, and am not religious.

"the universe has 10 dimensions of which 6 are compactified to a small distance on the scale of the Planck length which are the freedoms of vibrations of energy that are one dimensional and can have up to six degrees of of freedom and the way these strings vibrate corresponds to the particles"

Have you ever read "The Shape of Inner Space" by Shing-Tung Yau? Professor Yau talks extensively about the 6 compactified spatial dimensions over and above the 4 we normally envision. At each point in 4 dimensional space, Yau sees a granular space made up of the other 6 spatial dimensions. The very special topology of Calibri-Yau spaces generates fluxes that act on strings envisioned as winding their way through the 1 to 500 holes in such Calibri-Yau space.

Imagine. Space curling itself up in screwballs with spaghetti winding through their holes, floating in a 4 dimensional sea. In such a world the spaghetti becomes particles in 4 dimensional space. The theory may be wrong or it may be right, but it certainly is a fun thing to think about.

I can see where it can be fascinating and mind-expanding.

"There is not an iota of empirical evidence to corroborate the many-worlds hypothesis.. Not a crumb of evidence.
For a hypothesis to be even considered it must be tested empirically."

Absolutely true.

And all established theory hangs by a thread. All that is needed is one prediction which doesn't work out and the theory must be modified or dropped.

Yet the long string of consistent thought, fortified with the language of math, and supported by known relationships popping out of the sting theory math, all these, give us reason to suspect and investigate. What we do have are things that we can see as correlates to what we think might be happening; Einstein's equations appearing in string math and such.

Standing by and saying "we can never figure this out" is not any fun. Studying it and coming up with wrong conclusion after wrong conclusion is what gets us somewhere. Read; "ya can't make an omlet without breaking eggs". Even if Sting and M theory are crap, look at all the wonderful avenues of thought that these ideas have opened up for us to faun over!

Don't worry; be happy. None of us are getting out of this world alive anyway

I think Max's notions are an excellent way at looking at inquiry of all kinds.

How about John Keel ??
He's the UFO researcher who said " ?I abandoned the extraterrestrial hypothesis in 1967 when my own field investigations disclosed an astonishing overlap between psychic phenomena and UFOs . . . I feel that the ultimate solution [to the UFO question] will involve a complicated system of new physics related to theories of the space-time continuum . . . "

hmmmmm..... another way of saying cosmic hologram?

/\ /\ That's the way I interpret it. If you examine all the weirdness surrounding the 'UFO experience' you pretty much have to believe in parallel universes. Or a hologram universe.

it seems to me like the universe is like a giant computer and that all we know is really "virtual." in a virtual universe one can go from zero to warp speed in no time at all.

Yep, it?s enough to make anyone dizzy.



I have thoughts like that from time to time too, but to me they are exciting and inspiring. I think about the bad things that have happened and find solace in thinking that maybe for another me it was far worse.
It would have been neat to learn what another Earth was like and meet another me, see how different and alike it was!






I wish that too. I'm glad I'm not the only one who find these thoughts very mesmerizing.

I read the article and, nope, I don't get it. Quantum physics are totally beyond me. The apple falling on Newton's head I can understand, but it's gotten ridiculously complicated since then.

So a quantum particle, whatever that is, can exist in two forms and/or places simultaneously, and this means there are parallel universes out there? One inconceivably huge universe isn't enough? That's what they're saying as far as I can tell. Hard to say if it's true or not, but I ever travel to one of these other universes I'll re-post and let you know. Assuming Wrongplanet exists there.

"I don't get it. Quantum physics are totally beyond me."

A great Physicist, Richard Feynman, said "If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics."

Don't try to understand it. It works for GPS and so many other gadgets we've made, that we know there must be a lot of truth in it.

I think a big part of the problem is that we can not see the world as it really is. When we see smell taste, touch or hear something outside of us, we form an impression of it inside ourselves. Any resemblance to reality in our perceptions is questionable. Just look at the tricks our eyes and ears can play on us; optical and other illusions). Look at some Escher prints.

We don't have equipment for studying the world so much as we have equipment for surviving in it. We are not good observers of what really exists.

I don't understand quantum mechanics either. Neither did Feynman.