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22 Mar 2007, 7:13 pm

I am sorry to hear about your pets, jimservo. :(
I hope all works out for your other dog

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Its also interesting to see how some stores, at least in my town, are refusing to take the recalled foods off the shelf.
thats a bit sick, even the manditory recalled foods?


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22 Mar 2007, 11:03 pm

Fancy Feast is not on the recall list. I just checked as my cats get that in addition to dry food. My dogs have been eating only dry food in the last couple of years or so to help them lose weight, so they're fine.


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23 Mar 2007, 1:31 am

JimServo I know you're probably staying very busy looking after you other dog. But when you get the chance let us know how he/she is doing. I hope your doggie will be okay.



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23 Mar 2007, 10:13 am

I'm wondering how this will all play out in the courts. Mind you, I love doggies and kitties, and it's a tragedy that this happened. No excuses, really. It's like a restaurant serving poisoned food. But I remember the Ford Explorer/Firestone tire trials, and what a PR debacle they became. Anyone whose pet died as a result of this poisoned food is due a recompense from the company. But how many will pile into some "class action" suit and claim damages when their pet was never harmed???


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23 Mar 2007, 11:05 am

As they say, this just in:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/23/pet.fo ... index.html

The cause was rat poison in the pet food. I haven't read the entire article, so how could rat poison end up in pet food in sufficient quantity as to be fatal ???


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23 Mar 2007, 11:14 am

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
As they say, this just in:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/23/pet.fo ... index.html

The cause was rat poison in the pet food. I haven't read the entire article, so how could rat poison end up in pet food in sufficient quantity as to be fatal ???
:cry: carelessness?


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23 Mar 2007, 1:59 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/

They say the rat poison is banned in US but not in China where the wheat was imported.


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23 Mar 2007, 2:27 pm

Does that mean that Chinese children might be eating products made from contaminated grain? There was so little gluten in the pet food that the traces of pesticide were necessarily small. But if a slightly larger body ate something with a much higher contamination level.... 8O



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23 Mar 2007, 2:39 pm

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JimServo I know you're probably staying very busy looking after you other dog. But when you get the chance let us know how he/she is doing. I hope your doggie will be okay.


Thank you. It isn't necessarily the case that these recalled pet food was the ultimate cause of death. I'm sure that whenever they found the first problem they initialed a mass recall effecting anything possibly connected (this is partially due to the inevitable lawsuits that are going to follow). Nonetheless, at this point our family just wants to make sure our dog is OK at this point. We are getting her checked today or tomorrow I think. She wasn't on the recalled food very long because she was allergic to something that was on it, so hopefully she will be in the clear.



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23 Mar 2007, 2:53 pm

Nan wrote:
Does that mean that Chinese children might be eating products made from contaminated grain? There was so little gluten in the pet food that the traces of pesticide were necessarily small. But if a slightly larger body ate something with a much higher contamination level.... 8O


Don't worry about the Chinese kids. The wheat used in pet food including all other ingredients are not human grade quality. What is really in pet food is disgusting. It's even said they grind in euthanized dogs and cats from shelters so the cheap foods could also contain things like flea collars and whatever chemicals they use in euthanasia. Basically non-human grade pet food contains leftovers from various processing companies. Some labels will list "millings" which is the discarded grains that are swept off the floor at various facilities and is resold to pet food manufacturers. So its no wonder rat poison got mixed in.



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23 Mar 2007, 3:04 pm

The news says aminopterin is used as a rat poison in China, but in the US it is used as a cancer drug.



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23 Mar 2007, 7:10 pm

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The news says aminopterin is used as a rat poison in China, but in the US it is used as a cancer drug.


That's just weird. Administer rat poison to people already ill with cancer? I read this, too, and I must say that I am puzzled!


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27 Mar 2007, 3:53 pm

Dog food: (cheaper and won't kill your dog)

5-6 pounds of chicken parts or cheapest meat you can find
4 cups chicken scratch

Put in largest pot you have, fill with water, heat to boil, simmer a few hours till meat falls from bones. Put cover on and let sit overnight (the scratch takes forever to plump up). If too runny the next day, add uncooked oatmeal. Throughout the week add fruit and veggie peelings and leftovers that would otherwise get thrown away. Yogurt also is good, and egg shells.

This is enough to feed one big dog and one medium dog for a whole week.

I've been feeding this to my dogs for about 9 months now, and they look and feel great.

You don't even want to know all the crap they put in commercial pet food, even the so-called premium brands. There are virtually no restrictions.



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29 Mar 2007, 1:40 am

If you are going to feed your dogs that homemade recipe you had better also give them a high quality vitamin supplement because that recipe by itself WILL kill a dog over time. It is unbalanced. A lot of people end up harming their pets preparing their food on their own. The nutrients are unbalanced in that recipe. Also if you feed it to a cat they would go blind from lack of taurine.

Chicken scratch is mostly corn. Corn is really not good for dogs and cats or humans for that matter. A lot of dogs especially Labradors are allergic to corn and will get hot spots on their elbows because of it. Hot spots are were they get a rash that turns into raw flesh where the fur wears away and then it gets infected.



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29 Mar 2007, 1:52 am

hartzofspace wrote:
Ticker wrote:
The news says aminopterin is used as a rat poison in China, but in the US it is used as a cancer drug.


That's just weird. Administer rat poison to people already ill with cancer? I read this, too, and I must say that I am puzzled!


The drug also was formerly used to induce a miscarriage in the US. The drug is used for cancer because the way it is dosed targets cancer cells which sometimes grow at a faster rate than normal cells. It's just like Fluoride. A lot of people mistakingly believe it is safe and preserves their teeth. What they don't realize is until the 1940's it was commonly used in the US as a treatment for Hyperthyroidism because Fluoride kills the thyroid. Hence lots of people with fluoridated water are hypothyroid and also majorly obese.



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30 Mar 2007, 5:45 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17870750/
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