So what do y'all think of Rachel Dolezal?

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I agree! For many, many years, now "Black is the New Black" has been "in-fashion". That's why, IMO, we've had white rappers, white kids wearin' their pants off their butt----and, IMO, why white girls keep havin' black babies. I feel they are saying: "I'm not like those other whites, I accept you----I don't think badly of you....."

All of these theories about Rachel always wanting to belong, choosing a race that she could most relate to, never having a feeling of belonging, before, are noble; but, I don't think she deserves NEAR the credit, that those things afford her. I think what she did was despicable!

Yep. She reduced a race of people into her own personal fad; and, maybe she is well intentioned. But, while it is flattering for about ... three minutes, I fail to see that it endures. In my opinion, that is social usury.

I don't think it's the same thing at all. I have a friend with vitiligo. She's white and it's noticeable, so I can imagine it would be extremely troubling for a black person to find that their skin is changing colour. I guess he did the best he could with it. Especially since he was in the public eye and it's a very looks based game. Poor dude was messed up and did a lot of weird things though. It's a shame he didn't let people see him with vetiligo, it could have boosted the self esteem of others who have vitiligo to see a famous person with a similar skin condition.

Yep. Bruce Jenner reduced a sex of people into his own personal fad; and, maybe he is well intentioned. But, while it is flattering for about ... three minutes, I fail to see that it endures. In my opinion, that is social usury.

Fixed that for the world.

(I find it kinda sad that people aren't accepting of something that's exactly the same thing in most ways, but since one isn't a fad and might cross into an area people don't like, they suddenly attack someone they should be defending. Sigh.)

EXACTLY!

Also, I don't think she was well-intentioned, AT ALL----unless, you mean by her helping the Black community----other than THAT, I feel her only intention, was for HERSELF!

To report from Spokane and the surrounding area: so far, the local NAACP and other activists are standing behind Dolezal, so incredibly enough, she might just be able to weather this storm. It has to be remembered, the Pacific Northwest is a region of the country where there is not just a live-and-let-live attitude, but where people's eccentricities are not just accepted but encouraged.

I don't think it's the same, AT ALL!! I think with transgendered people, it has to do with some kind of -ology----biology, physiology----AND, that they're born, that way!!

I feel that with Rachel, it was ALL to do with emotions!! I think she thought: "Hmmm, I think it would be really cool to be Black." I think she decided it, like someone else would decide what dress to wear, on any given day----and, that she was NOT born that way!

I feel that with Rachel, it was TOTAL FAD; but, with Bruce, it was NOT! IMO, there has NOT been enough "celebrity" transgendered people----or, enough press about transgendered people----to make it a fad; whereas, there HAS been PLENTY of white people trying to act black, to make it a fad.

Tomorrow, she's suppose to give some kind of "public statement"----or, so I've heard on the news, here. I would bet, almost anything, that it's gonna be the biggest bunch of horse-hockey since "I did not have sex, with that woman"----or, "..... but, I didn't inhale"----something like: "I just wanted to help the Black community....."----so she'll sound like a martyr.

Hm. Obscuring the truth to a non-profit organization is one thing, but making untrue statements to a law-enforcement agency (and city-government employer) is bad news. By this time next week, I suspect no one will remember her.

Transgender people have been around forever.

The Chevalier d'Eon, for one, Radclyffe Hall for another...but no surgical procedures existed to change their bodies

to the gender they wanted, so they went somewhere that they were not known, re-named themselves, and lived as

members of their chosen gender

Also, there have always been people passing as members of another race.

Best-known in America would be the many, many mixed-race or bi-racial individuals who 'passed' as white.

This woman does not seem to have been suffering a form of racial-identity-crisis, rather altering her appearance,

and making up elaborate lies for the sake of a well-paying and high-profile job.

One which got her a lot of attention as a courageous woman who worked hard for the rights of HER people.

I agree with CampinCat....despicable.

I had a reply, but the site broke when I hit post...

Re. transraciality, does something like it exist in cases of cross-racial adoption, where people have identified more with their adoptive race, rather the one they were born as? What about mixed-race individuals?

Especially in America, we are ALL mixed, ethnically, racially, unless our parents just got off the boat or plane from

somewhere that did not have many different groups.

Nonetheless, many of us see ourselves as, say, Irish-Americans, or Swedish-Americans, though we may have a

higher percentage of other nationalities in our family trees.

Recently, people had to submit to DNA testing to remain members of Native American tribes legally.

Those who had too small a percentage of Indian blood have been forced off of tribal land, out of homes that they

lived in all of their lives.

Numerous articles in American newspapers are available online about this situation.

Sad thing is, almost all of them believed that they were of predominantly Indian heritage.

Rachel Dolezal, however, lied.

Big difference.

Furthermore, where I work, no matter how well you do your job, or how long, like for years, of it is discovered that

you lied on your employment application, you are out. No discussion.

That is made clear from the very first interview, and on the application itself.

If she would not have gotten that job without the lie, she did not deserve the job, no matter how well she did.

Putting aside the race issue lying is fundamentally what Dolezal did wrong. Despite all the positive good intentions she appeared to have lied in order attain benefit from i) attending university ii) obtaining employment and iii) attaining her position with the NAACP. She will have a tough time convincing the NAACP that she has principles?

LOL! not aiming this at you specifically...but plenty of white Americans can't quite fathom why one of their "own" would voluntarily give up their white privilege. Yes of course white privilege doesn't exist (according to the prevailing myth) but then why do white families who move their children to another school when their school becomes too "multi-ethnic" or adoption agencies in Australia or America who don't allow black families to adopt white children or why do white parents get upset when their daughter's date black men?

Race is a very real social construct even for us white liberals. You don't have to be right wing nutjob to be racially prejudiced.

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If you are a regular viewer of "The Today Show", and do not live on the East Coast, and thus, have not yet seen the Live Rachel Dolezal interview, you probably won't want to read, further.....

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Rachel Dolezal just gave a live interview on "The Today Show". A couple of her comments stood-out, to me.....

"I DID feel at some point that I would have to address the complexity of my identity."

"I IDENTIFY as black." (Stress is MINE, NOT hers.)

"I certainly don't take any measures, to stay OUT of the sun."

"I have identified as black since about 5 years old, I would say." (I've read that her parents said she began to identify as black, around 2007.)

She was totally UNapologetic in the interview. The sound that came out of her, that was her voice, didn't have "attitude"----NOR, her body language----BUT the words seemed to have an attitude of "Yeah, I did it----so, what?", IMO.

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Other interesting things that I've read, regarding this woman.....

She sued Howard University (a historically black college in D.C.) saying that because she was white, she had been discriminated against. (Seems she becomes whatever race, that BENEFITS her!)

She's had a VERY long history of lying----to include:

-- Her father was black.
-- That the black male that her PARENTS adopted, was her (Rachel's) SON.
-- That the white man, with her mother, is her STEP-father (Rachel's mother said Rachel doesn't have a Step-father).
-- In a 2015 interview, Dolezal said she was "punished by skin complexion" by her mother and "white stepfather," and compared this alleged punishment to the punishment suffered by black slaves. (Her brother Ezra Dolezal said the accusations of physical punishment were false.)
-- She said she had been targeted by 8 different hate crimes. (The subsequent police investigation did not support the allegation.)

Another interesting tidbit..... She's been accused of plagiarism----more than ONCE:

"Dolezal has been accused of plagiarizing artwork by other artists, including the 'The Slave Ship' by J. M. W. Turner."

Here's what I'm thinking..... Can YOU say: "Narcissist"? I know that you can.....