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26 Jun 2015, 4:14 pm

I'm sure there are some Canadians and Mexicans who wouldn't look too kindly on that plan.


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26 Jun 2015, 4:27 pm

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The end of civilization as we know it.


You say that like it would be a bad thing.


Because it is. Marriage is meant purely to between a man and a woman. The Lord created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

There is no God. However, even if you believe there is, it's not your right to pass laws to control another's life based on your delusions or beliefs. Leave the rest of us the hell alone...


*Every* law in some way is "controlling" the actions of another. You know, like law's against murder, or laws that control how the owner of a business treats his/her employees...

In the instance of gay marriage, one might argue that "it doesn't hurt anyone" so it shouldn't be prevented. I don't think we will know until 30-50 years from now how society will be affected by all these changes.

You're right that all laws preclude some behaviors. However, the ones taking away rights are unconstitutional. They are often based in fairy tale religious beliefs...



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26 Jun 2015, 4:30 pm

On further reflection, perhaps we should let them go to Canada. It's time we pay that country back for giving us Bryan Adams!


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26 Jun 2015, 4:48 pm

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On further reflection, perhaps we should let them go to Canada. It's time we pay that country back for giving us Bryan Adams!

Awww, NOT BRYAN----he had some GREAT songs!! JUSTIN BIEBER, instead----what a MESS!!









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26 Jun 2015, 4:51 pm

I forgot about Beiber! Yeah, I'll go with him, then. Payback time!


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26 Jun 2015, 4:52 pm

The end of the ruling opinion.

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Chief Justice Robert's dissenting opinion:

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From Justice Scalia's dissenting opinion:

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From Justice Thomas (black justice) insulting dissenting opinion:
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Joe biden (VP) was seen running up and own the White House halls in a rainbow cape.


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26 Jun 2015, 4:55 pm

I love, Love, LOVE this.....

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.....'cept, I wish it was a REAL picture of the White House----or, better yet, put those colored lights on the front lawn, to be beamed onto the White House, tonight!!




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26 Jun 2015, 4:59 pm

nerdygirl wrote:
pcuser wrote:
Meistersinger wrote:
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The end of civilization as we know it.


You say that like it would be a bad thing.


Because it is. Marriage is meant purely to between a man and a woman. The Lord created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

There is no God. However, even if you believe there is, it's not your right to pass laws to control another's life based on your delusions or beliefs. Leave the rest of us the hell alone...


*Every* law in some way is "controlling" the actions of another. You know, like law's against murder, or laws that control how the owner of a business treats his/her employees...

In the instance of gay marriage, one might argue that "it doesn't hurt anyone" so it shouldn't be prevented. I don't think we will know until 30-50 years from now how society will be affected by all these changes.


You sound concerned.

A better argument for gay marriage is that it is none of your business who anyone else marries. Gay people have the same rights that you do.

All arguments to the contrary have been shown to be pure bullflop.

You talk as though gay people having committed relationships is a new thing today. It's not.

Neither is, by the way, gay marriage, in the ritualistic and spiritual sense.

They just have guaranteed legal recognition now.



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26 Jun 2015, 5:02 pm

Roberts seems to be ignoring the 14th amendment.

Scalia is a caricature of himself and would be funny if he wasn't so embarrassing.

Thomas has funny ideas about rights and dignity.



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26 Jun 2015, 5:09 pm

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From Justice Thomas (black justice) insulting dissenting opinion:

OMG----the excuse to weave slavery into ANY conversation, just NEVER ends!!

Joe biden (VP) was seen running up and own the White House halls in a rainbow cape.

LOLOLOL TOO funny!!



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26 Jun 2015, 5:13 pm

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Scalia is a caricature of himself and would be funny if he wasn't so embarrassing.

LOLOL Sadly, that's SOOOO true!!









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26 Jun 2015, 5:23 pm

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They just have guaranteed legal recognition now.

Yeah, and alot of people forget that it's really important for them to have this for insurance purposes, legal purposes (and so their children will be "safe"); and, like, if one of them goes to the hospital, doctors weren't letting their partners have a say, in "stuff", because they weren't legally married. These are all really important things, that NOW they will be afforded----BEFORE, they were like second-class citizens, because they couldn't do these things!!

Also, there's been gay people whose family has disowned them, because of their lifestyle----then, when they die, they want possession of their property; and, if they've had a partner for 30 years, for instance, that partner gets totally cut-out, and can't even make decisions about burial arrangements----that's HORRIBLE!!




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26 Jun 2015, 5:29 pm

Well done, America. I'm happy for you guys. :D

Now waiting for Australia to catch up with the rest of the developed English-speaking world.


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26 Jun 2015, 5:42 pm

I just heard that Justice Scalia said that if he had written the final decision, that he would've "hung his head, in a bag". I know that sounds really strange----but, I'm almost CERTAIN that's what he said. I GUESS he means he would've put a bag on his head, and hung his head----again, embarrassing! LOL










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26 Jun 2015, 6:22 pm

What does it entail?

Lettings churches marry gay people if they're ok with it?

That's fine.



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26 Jun 2015, 6:33 pm

Campin_Cat wrote:
I just heard that Justice Scalia said that if he had written the final decision, that he would've "hung his head, in a bag". I know that sounds really strange----but, I'm almost CERTAIN that's what he said. I GUESS he means he would've put a bag on his head, and hung his head----again, embarrassing! LOL


I haven't read the full text of Scalia's dissent, but a few news articles have quoted him as saying that he would rather "hide [his] head in a bag" rather than support the majority opinion.

A few articles have compiled some of the best quotes from his dissent. I disagree with his opinion, but honestly some of them have been genuinely funny – some might say even witty – in the way he expresses his disapproval. Seriously, it really made my day! :lmao:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... ia-dissent
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/06/ ... uling-2015

And the full text of the majority opinion is here:
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14 ... 6_3204.pdf

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On another note, I've noticed that the case was called Obergefell v Hodges. I imagine this case will be a landmark one in American history, and it'll probably be referred to as the Obergefell decision. So I was curious as how to pronounce the lead plaintiff's name. Eventually I came across a short speech he made where he introduced himself as Jim O-berg-e-fell (four syllables, with a hard g). Good to know. :)


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