Jim Carrey's anti-vaccine rant

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03 Jul 2015, 9:30 pm

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People that worship vaccines are bowing at the feet of their Big Pharmaceutical god's, do you trust them? I'd get a vaccine if I thought it was in my best self interest but I'm not giving the most evil people in the world the benefit of the doubt. First hand I can tell you there can be serious reactions to almost any type of vaccine, my brother has suffered permanent brain damage and is permanently disabled as a result a reaction he had from I believe DTaP. How about this as a compromise, you can mandate vaccines but the pharmaceutical companies will owe everyone that has a reaction a billion dollars. I would imagine the supply of that drug would dry up really fast, they'd probably have second thoughts about mandating it.

I don't trust Big Pharma, but I trust science and science is saying that vaccines are safe and a efficient way to prevent dangerous diseases. Not every scientists are working for Big Pharma, some are working for universities and governments and they are still saying that vaccines are safe and a efficient way to prevent diseases. There is also a lot of scientists that are fighting against the bad pratices of Big Pharma, like asking for all the study done by pharmatical compagnies on their drugs, that's because science is a self-correcting pratice and thus is able to fight back against abuse made in the name of money. And yet you say that we shouldn't trust any of them!
Why should we trust anti-vaccers by the way? They are not virtuous simply because they are speaking against Big Pharma you know.

You can trust whoever you want, key word being you.

Such a attitude make one suscetible to personnal bias, rather easy to fool (If someone is speaking the right notes concording to your personnal bias.) and/or being wrong.

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04 Jul 2015, 6:17 am

But that's liberty! You have a right to be as irrational as you want, and not give a s**t about any collective problems your attitude may cause

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05 Jul 2015, 9:31 pm

When you're a child, your parents get to choose whether to let you become a walking disease vector.

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05 Jul 2015, 9:52 pm

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When you're a child, your parents get to choose whether to let you become a walking disease vector.

^^^

And if it is proven that your "walking disease vector" infected/killed others, you should be held liable for any punitive or financial damages. Including involuntary manslaughter - in this day and age, the facts (not opinions) show it is reckless to do that if your vector is not immunosuppressed or otherwise. Since everyone here is about personal responsibility and accepting the consequences for their actions, that's OK, right?

I seriously do not understand this from the "freedom choice" proponents - if you want less government involvement and think businesses/corporations/non-goverment sources can do it better, why couldn't we just secure the future and produce a more healthy workforce, cutting down on costs of sick/injury days and more than likely increasing production. And the only real people who can pull off mass immunizations to do this are corporations with the money to be able to run trials/phases/etc. You would think this would be obvious given what we know now about vaccinations, but it is like some "Kirkegaardian devil" (I think that was one of the themes in The Sickness Unto Death) where they cannot connect the two, and remain separate from reality, preferring to be some rebel.

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06 Jul 2015, 1:17 pm

can we stop with the personal attacks here please and return to the subject? thanks.

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06 Jul 2015, 1:22 pm

You beat me to it, Boo.

I have just removed some posts with personal attacks. Please keep it civil, guys.

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06 Jul 2015, 10:35 pm

Spiderpig wrote:

But that's liberty! You have a right to be as irrational as you want, and not give a s**t about any collective problems your attitude may cause

right until you get locked up

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